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me bein slim and strong - 7/22/2006 5:59:36 AM   
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ok im 5,8 and 3/4

i bench im the 185-230 area at max

and preacher curl 125lbs at max

im 140-145 lbs

and 13 inch in biceps

so how am i that low in weight and im stronger than people who are like alot thicker than me and just as cut as me

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/22/2006 6:49:33 AM   
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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/22/2006 7:52:49 AM   
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oh ok

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/23/2006 9:43:17 PM   
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i agree with sheep man over there.... lol me myself am alot stronger then 11th grade football palyers but im only in 8th grade.....

-size=that you just use heavier weights lower reps/....

-stregth= that you use small weights and perform huge amounts of sets and reps...


so my advice is that forget using heavier weights and getting buff...just use small weights and do alot of reps..... cause you will get alot respect that way.....

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/23/2006 10:11:16 PM   
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i think its kind of a cool thing being smaller, yet stronger than most, but i would like to gain weight and size.

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/23/2006 10:14:11 PM   
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oh yeah and my coach is like 5'4"   160    and benches 355, squats 525, and deadlifts 475. i think that is amazing!

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 12:35:36 AM   
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-size=that you just use heavier weights lower reps/....

-stregth= that you use small weights and perform huge amounts of sets and reps...


so my advice is that forget using heavier weights and getting buff...just use small weights and do alot of reps..... cause you will get alot respect that way.....


not true at all.

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 11:08:11 AM   
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quote:

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i agree with sheep man over there.... lol me myself am alot stronger then 11th grade football palyers but im only in 8th grade.....

-size=that you just use heavier weights lower reps/....

-stregth= that you use small weights and perform huge amounts of sets and reps...


so my advice is that forget using heavier weights and getting buff...just use small weights and do alot of reps..... cause you will get alot respect that way.....
Its actually the other way around. Heavy weights and low reps will give strength.

and lemme tell you something, theres not only a big difference but a huge difference in benching between 180lbs and 230lbs. lol

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 12:54:25 PM   
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quote:

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-size=that you just use heavier weights lower reps/....

-stregth= that you use small weights and perform huge amounts of sets and reps...


so my advice is that forget using heavier weights and getting buff...just use small weights and do alot of reps..... cause you will get alot respect that way.....


not true at all.


exactly.  like 100% wrong.

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 1:06:21 PM   
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i bench im the 185-230 area at max


what the hell does that mean?

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 1:31:10 PM   
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You sure your counting lbs and not Kgs lol jk, how old are you?

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 2:05:26 PM   
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I would like to disagree with the whole size and strength thing.
People of different sizes can lift same amounts of weight.

However there does come a point, where human muscle matter, has a maximum point of strength, for example, lets say the maximum strength you can gain from .75lbs of muscle in the bicep is a bicep curl of 140lbs in standard 9.8 gravity.

Some people will only manage 40, some will manage the 70 average, and very VERY few will manage that 140lbs

But some of the stats i have seen here in accordance to size, DOES require Hydrolics, as in them big ass ****ing machines you see.

180-230lbs?

thats a 50lbs difference

I train 90lbs
I max 110lbs-barely.

"oh yeah and my coach is like 5'4"   160    and benches 355, squats 525, and deadlifts 475. i think that is amazing! "

He's 5'4" as a result he has to lift a deadlift weight about 2ft off the ground, my 6ft frame has to do it by 3ft, making 1ft extra effort each rep, same with bench and squat.

shorter people just ****ing rock at squats, they can squat a damn tontruck probably.

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/24/2006 9:02:30 PM   
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still, hes 160 pounds..............and ive never seen anybody in person do that. his bench is well over 200 pounds more than yours and hes only 10 more pounds than you

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/25/2006 9:15:42 AM   
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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/25/2006 9:19:43 AM   
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ok the reason i gave that big 50 lb diffrence in the area because

the last time i maxed on free weight bench press was 185 in the middle of the year


and now i think i got a lil stronger

suddenley im doin 260 on bowflex

and on this bench press im doin 240 but its the cable

and i dont know how much im doin in free weights so thats why i said im in the 180-230 area the only way i can give an extreme acurate max is if i get to a free weight bench press


oh and the bicep curl part

remember its 2 handed not 1 handed usin the preacher curl

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/25/2006 2:37:29 PM   
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still, hes 160 pounds..............and ive never seen anybody in person do that. his bench is well over 200 pounds more than yours and hes only 10 more pounds than you


yeah, but that weight is on a 5'4" frame.
160lbs for 5'4" is relatively stocky.
a 160lbs 5'4" guy could theoretically have 16" guns and a 45" chest, making him stronger, a 6ft guy with 160lbs of weight wouldnt ever be able to rack them kind of muscle size numbers.

Dont even start on my bench, my bench sucks regardless of weight.
My max bench i am guessing when i reach 220lbs 7% Bodyfat at 6'0" will be around the 150lbs mark, my chest doesnt gain strength, and ive hit my chest with some pretty damn harsh training, medium intense training, and low intense training, nothing works, it is the equivalent of a foreign layabout reaping your hard earned tax dollars.

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/25/2006 2:40:17 PM   
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Also ive only started up training from 5 months ago, for 2 weeks, and just had 2 weeks off from food poisoning.

So my maxxes arent exactly brilliant right now

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/26/2006 10:05:33 AM   
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i wasnt tryin to like talk mess or anything, but im not much taller than he is and i work hard at workin out and its not cool when someone says its easier because ur short

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RE: me bein slim and strong - 7/26/2006 12:15:09 PM   
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Oh, im not dissing you, im sure you work hard, but if you look at all the peoples stats here that are definitely real. you will notice shorter people usually as a general rule have higher lifts because they have more compressed overall power.
It does make it easier to gain the lift amounts, it also helps to gain size as your body will fill out quicker.

a very tight(small) hosepipe that fills low amount of water (calorie needs) will shoot further (gains) than a fat hosepipe with loads of water.

Its just the way it is. Im sure you work very hard to get your numbers though.

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