mdrol

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

Kids shouldn't be taking PHs anyways.

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

if you want to put your body through tests like a guinea pig by all means go for im not here to stop you, but dont go around toting your a badass because you took a 5 month cycle, it gives kids who have no idea what they are doing the idea they can do the same when clearly they cannot.

also the points you bolded in red, i was explaining why the media trashes steroids, that doesnt mean thats where i get my information, reading comprehension > you

I think you mean "touting you're a badass".

Grammar, spelling, and word choice > you.
 
 
If you wanna save the world, go right ahead. Nothing you are saying makes sense, you are just being argumentative for sake. Next time you wanna try and act all high and mighty intelligent, go pick on someone who hasn't been a member of Mensa since 1997.

I am not here to save the world, but I would like to think i also don't have a bad impact on it like yourself.  You don't seem to refute any of the statements i made but instead pick on a spelling and shorthand error.  I mean if you like to act like a child go for it, maybe you were dropped one too many time in the ring while you were losing, who knows, but don't come back to a forum talking about prohormones and steroids where the owner and creator has stated on numerous occassions they have no place here. 

/enddiscussion

There are dozens of boards that encourage these types of discussions.. Why would any responsible adult contribute to a discussion on steroid use when they know this board is primarily used by young guys who have absolutely no need to hear such bull****...

And why has this post not been deleted by a moderator or admin?  

They're so quick to jump in a delete a post when someone gets into a heated debate but will allow **** posts like this one to continue for weeks...
 
Nic wrote an entire book a few weeks ago discussing the rules of this site.. all over a stupid ass political discussion....where is he now?????????

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!! The topic of the post is MDROL!!!!!!!!!!!! Somebody delete this ****!!!!

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

smoundzou: Honestly man, your a cool guy, but if you dont like it then dont read it bro. Steroids in here are frowned upon, which is ok but DBB has to realize that steroids are a GIGANTIC portion of bodybuilding. Everyone is like 'yeah jay cutler; hes huge from eating and training' hahahah ahaha like HGH has nothing to do with it, right?! why not educate instead of saying "hey hey hey hey get outta here guy!"

but yes there are tons of steroid boards out there so find them.

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

I appreciate the fact you think I'm a cool guy and I'm not trying to bust anyone's balls but what bothers me most is... someone will take the time to delete an entire thread simply due to a couple of immature kids throwing a few choice comments back and forth at each other.. something that's harmless and is usually over after a few replies.. but threads on PH's and steroids can go for days and sometimes never get deleted..
 
 
The problem being.. no one ever gets physically hurt over an internet fight.. But half the people on here giving out advice on running cycles have no idea what their talking about or even know who they're talking to for that matter.... and I have a difficult time understanding why those posts are allowed to continue and the one's that turn into debates are shut down or deleted?? makes absolutely no sense to me..
 
Regardless of what anyone wants to think about anabolic steroids or even PH's being harmless... there kidding themselfs.... I'm not against steroids by any means.. and if an adult chooses to use them at their own risk.. then so be it.. but openly discussing it on a forum that consists primarily of young eager guys in their teens is not the place to be having those types of conversations much less feeding them advice on how to cycle.. it's very irresponsible and shouldn't be tolerated..
 

ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420

smoundzou: Honestly man, your a cool guy, but if you dont like it then dont read it bro. Steroids in here are frowned upon, which is ok but DBB has to realize that steroids are a GIGANTIC portion of bodybuilding. Everyone is like 'yeah jay cutler; hes huge from eating and training' hahahah ahaha like HGH has nothing to do with it, right?! why not educate instead of saying "hey hey hey hey get outta here guy!"

but yes there are tons of steroid boards out there so find them.

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

I was locking up and I couldn't have sex more than 2-3 times a day.

thats tha only reason i dont use PHs, i have to make sure i get to have sex 8 times everyday.

i just wanna say i agree with smoundzous posts...

18 yo
6'0" 208 lbs.
bulking

This board is absolutely rediculous when it comes to talking about performance enhancing drugs...

Look, like it or not, they are part of our little world we like to call bodybuilding, and the fact that everyone acts like they are the devil and they shouldnt be talked about is just ignorance. 

Its this simple, if you knew your child was going to drink, would you want them to go to some party and get sh*tfaced, maybe drive or drive w/ someone else whos drunk and hit a pole... or would you rather have them drink at your house where you can at the very least monitor how much they've drank, make sure no one drives, etc....  Both are illegal, but at least one is done as safe as it can be.

I am not saying steroids dont have risks, and im not saying that this board should be telling kids its ok to buy and use them.  I am saying that the media and government are making steroids out to be 10000 times worse than they are.  Seriously, if you know someone who smokes a pack a day, someone who drinks a 6 pack a day, and someone on 500mg/week of test e, try and guess who is gonna go first... If you use these substances in a responsible safe manner, then they are not even close to detrimental to your health.... and how do you make people use things in a responsible manner... by EDUCATING THEM... not telling them to go to hell and stop posting "stupid questions" because they are asking you questions about stuff you dont think is right...

AFAA(Aerobics and Fitness Associations of America) Certified Personal Trainer.

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

This board is absolutely rediculous when it comes to talking about performance enhancing drugs...

Look, like it or not, they are part of our little world we like to call bodybuilding, and the fact that everyone acts like they are the devil and they shouldnt be talked about is just ignorance. 

Its this simple, if you knew your child was going to drink, would you want them to go to some party and get sh*tfaced, maybe drive or drive w/ someone else whos drunk and hit a pole... or would you rather have them drink at your house where you can at the very least monitor how much they've drank, make sure no one drives, etc....  Both are illegal, but at least one is done as safe as it can be.

I am not saying steroids dont have risks, and im not saying that this board should be telling kids its ok to buy and use them.  I am saying that the media and government are making steroids out to be 10000 times worse than they are.  Seriously, if you know someone who smokes a pack a day, someone who drinks a 6 pack a day, and someone on 500mg/week of test e, try and guess who is gonna go first... If you use these substances in a responsible safe manner, then they are not even close to detrimental to your health.... and how do you make people use things in a responsible manner... by EDUCATING THEM... not telling them to go to hell and stop posting "stupid questions" because they are asking you questions about stuff you dont think is right...

already been said...in that post by me!! LoL

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

Well you just made my point... most of the stupid questions on here are coming from kids.... Detailed explainations of how to run cycles is not educating.. it's advocating.... and very irresponsible.. period....
 

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

This board is absolutely rediculous when it comes to talking about performance enhancing drugs...

Look, like it or not, they are part of our little world we like to call bodybuilding, and the fact that everyone acts like they are the devil and they shouldnt be talked about is just ignorance. 

Its this simple, if you knew your child was going to drink, would you want them to go to some party and get sh*tfaced, maybe drive or drive w/ someone else whos drunk and hit a pole... or would you rather have them drink at your house where you can at the very least monitor how much they've drank, make sure no one drives, etc....  Both are illegal, but at least one is done as safe as it can be.

I am not saying steroids dont have risks, and im not saying that this board should be telling kids its ok to buy and use them.  I am saying that the media and government are making steroids out to be 10000 times worse than they are.  Seriously, if you know someone who smokes a pack a day, someone who drinks a 6 pack a day, and someone on 500mg/week of test e, try and guess who is gonna go first... If you use these substances in a responsible safe manner, then they are not even close to detrimental to your health.... and how do you make people use things in a responsible manner... by EDUCATING THEM... not telling them to go to hell and stop posting "stupid questions" because they are asking you questions about stuff you dont think is right...

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

I think education is different; it would go something like:

This is steroid X, it's comprised of <chemical compound> it is primarily used for people looking to <adjective>.  Generally side effects include, and are not limited to <adjective(s)>.

Obviously a little more in depth than that, but there really is no reason to putting dosages to help educate someone.  Unless you were explaining different things, like pulse cycling and whatnot, but you wouldn't be telling someone, "Take X every other day, 20g per day first week.."

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

the thing is there are hundreds of places where anyone can find out how to run a good cycle on teh internet.  Its been established that phs etc arent talked about on here, so why not do it elsewhere.

ye, someone has probably mentioned this already

18 yo
6'0" 208 lbs.
bulking

Cant we all be nice....jezzzz

ORIGINAL: smoundzou

Well you just made my point... most of the stupid questions on here are coming from kids.... Detailed explainations of how to run cycles is not educating.. it's advocating.... and very irresponsible.. period....

ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635

This board is absolutely rediculous when it comes to talking about performance enhancing drugs...

Look, like it or not, they are part of our little world we like to call bodybuilding, and the fact that everyone acts like they are the devil and they shouldnt be talked about is just ignorance. 

Its this simple, if you knew your child was going to drink, would you want them to go to some party and get sh*tfaced, maybe drive or drive w/ someone else whos drunk and hit a pole... or would you rather have them drink at your house where you can at the very least monitor how much they've drank, make sure no one drives, etc....  Both are illegal, but at least one is done as safe as it can be.

I am not saying steroids dont have risks, and im not saying that this board should be telling kids its ok to buy and use them.  I am saying that the media and government are making steroids out to be 10000 times worse than they are.  Seriously, if you know someone who smokes a pack a day, someone who drinks a 6 pack a day, and someone on 500mg/week of test e, try and guess who is gonna go first... If you use these substances in a responsible safe manner, then they are not even close to detrimental to your health.... and how do you make people use things in a responsible manner... by EDUCATING THEM... not telling them to go to hell and stop posting "stupid questions" because they are asking you questions about stuff you dont think is right...

I do see your point clearly bro, however, lets be honest here man, if they are gonna take it , they are gonna take it, so why not atleast tell em how to do it right.

AFAA(Aerobics and Fitness Associations of America) Certified Personal Trainer.

ORIGINAL: smoundzou

I appreciate the fact you think I'm a cool guy and I'm not trying to bust anyone's balls but what bothers me most is... someone will take the time to delete an entire thread simply due to a couple of immature kids throwing a few choice comments back and forth at each other.. something that's harmless and is usually over after a few replies.. but threads on PH's and steroids can go for days and sometimes never get deleted..


The problem being.. no one ever gets physically hurt over an internet fight.. But half the people on here giving out advice on running cycles have no idea what their talking about or even know who they're talking to for that matter.... and I have a difficult time understanding why those posts are allowed to continue and the one's that turn into debates are shut down or deleted?? makes absolutely no sense to me..

Regardless of what anyone wants to think about anabolic steroids or even PH's being harmless... there kidding themselfs.... I'm not against steroids by any means.. and if an adult chooses to use them at their own risk.. then so be it.. but openly discussing it on a forum that consists primarily of young eager guys in their teens is not the place to be having those types of conversations much less feeding them advice on how to cycle.. it's very irresponsible and shouldn't be tolerated..

ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420

smoundzou: Honestly man, your a cool guy, but if you dont like it then dont read it bro. Steroids in here are frowned upon, which is ok but DBB has to realize that steroids are a GIGANTIC portion of bodybuilding. Everyone is like 'yeah jay cutler; hes huge from eating and training' hahahah ahaha like HGH has nothing to do with it, right?! why not educate instead of saying "hey hey hey hey get outta here guy!"

but yes there are tons of steroid boards out there so find them.

 
 
IDK who you're talking about there but Johnny gives the right advice...
For the most part I haven't seen any advice that's wrong.
Only ppl who I've seen here giving advice on this stuff are Johnny, Vaughn (MIA right now), IBB and me.

Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.

From my understanding the owners of this board have stated several times that these types of posts are not to be tolerated.  As I mentioned I have no issues with Steroids if the person in question is a consenting adult. The part I don't understand is, if this site is so opposed to the members discussing steroids, why is it allowed?   And why are other posts deleted over silly arguments that may flair up during the conversation? 

As it's already been mentioned, there are dozens of sites that go into detailed accuarate information regarding every type of anabolic steriod imaginable... The information also includes possible side effects, dosage recommendations and cycle lengths... every pro and con imaginable...

I guess I should re-phrase what I said eariler.. regarding lack of knowledge... I'm sure some of you guys have a solid understanding but simply giving someone a dosage guide on running a cycle is hardly good advice... Primarily due to the fact you have no idea who you're giving this advice to... I guess it all boils down to personal repsonsibility and how much you place on yourself... 

It seems to me this is a very close board... with great members.. and it sometimes bothers me when I see other members, openly advocating and offering up advice on steroids.. There are far too many others variables that need to be considered before someone desides to jump on the juice wagon.. and I find it hard to believe anyone would not find it horribly irresponsible for any adult to participate in this activity with someone who is more than likely a teenage kid or a young adult who is hardly anywhere near the point of needing PH or Steroid use to continue progression. 

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 

Well put.
 
But like Johnny said they're going to do it anyway, so why not point them in the right direction rather than bashing them?
 

ORIGINAL: smoundzou

From my understanding the owners of this board have stated several times that these types of posts are not to be tolerated.  As I mentioned I have no issues with Steroids if the person in question is a consenting adult. The part I don't understand is, if this site is so opposed to the members discussing steroids, why is it allowed?   And why are other posts deleted over silly arguments that may flair up during the conversation? 

As it's already been mentioned, there are dozens of sites that go into detailed accuarate information regarding every type of anabolic steriod imaginable... The information also includes possible side effects, dosage recommendations and cycle lengths... every pro and con imaginable...

I guess I should re-phrase what I said eariler.. regarding lack of knowledge... I'm sure some of you guys have a solid understanding but simply giving someone a dosage guide on running a cycle is hardly good advice... Primarily due to the fact you have no idea who you're giving this advice to... I guess it all boils down to personal repsonsibility and how much you place on yourself... 

It seems to me this is a very close board... with great members.. and it sometimes bothers me when I see other members, openly advocating and offering up advice on steroids.. There are far too many others variables that need to be considered before someone desides to jump on the juice wagon.. and I find it hard to believe anyone would not find it horribly irresponsible for any adult to participate in this activity with someone who is more than likely a teenage kid...

Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.