mdrol

You need nolva for m-drol. It's not hard to get at all. Look for tamoxifene citrate.
 

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue


yes it with...it's methyl-masteron.




whats up with dapunishers posts? whyd he get the boot?

 
Long story, but it was his own choice to have his account removed if I rember right.

I just started my cycle of M-Drol today!!! This is my first pro hormone!!! Im really excited to see my results.
 
Im:
6' 2", 250, 13% BF

Fresha you sound like you know what your talking about whe taking m drol. I am just about to start taking m drol along with plasma jet and protein isoloate. I was told at the end of my cycle to take nolvadex along with milk thissle to help rebuild and coat my liver. Do you have any suggestions? It will be greatly appreciated.

i am going to start an mdrol pplex cyle and i am only 16 my freind did it and he was extremley cautious while taking milk thistle and good pct and he is fine he went from 180lbs to 220 and increased all his maxes ALOT! I would like to know if i follow the strict regimen if i would be safe taking this cycle!! Im trying to get as big as possible for bodybuilding and after the cycle i will stay clean for at least 9 weeks
Thanks
NO EXCUSES203

Hey man good to see you back!
 
As for your cycles, if I read and understood corretly you only take 4 weeks off between cycles?
 
And as for phasing into Hdrol... I don't think you're going to feel much from Hdrol after Mdrol cycle.
Because 1st Mdrol is a lot stronger and 2ndly Hdrol takes around end of week 2 to kick in.
 
I'll have to disagree with you for PCT advice tho. For Superdrol clones Nolva, Torem or something to that extend is definately needed.
A mild AI like 6oxo is not nearly enough.
 

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

Mdrol is the shxt.

I usually run it 20g for 3 days, then take it every 6 hours for 2 weeks, then every 4 hours for 10 days, then down to 20g for a week. Then I take one month off.

I've gotten so strong off of it, I can't use any of the non-plate loaded machines at the gym because the entire stack is way too light. I warm up with them, that's all.

So far, Mdrol is the best supplement I've taken besides creatine. The only problem with it I've found is lethargy but I don't have a day job besides lifting, so I can lay around all day and watch FBI Files or whatever and sleep all day anyways.

I'm about to phase out Mdrol with 2 weeks of Hdrol then 6-OXO for PCT.

Real Nolva is NOT needed for PCT on this stuff from my experience, but that last week off... damn... it sucks bad.

Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.

LMAO

The only time I used 6-OXO was because I ran superdrol then pheraplex for 5 months straight and at the end, I was locking up and I couldn't have sex more than 2-3 times a day

And

Damn....... 5 months of SD-PP bridge.

How were your liver enzymes?
 
 
Also just wondering why not just go the good old Test way?
A lot safer and a sh*t load more gains.

Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.

ORIGINAL: dapunisher

LMAO

The only time I used 6-OXO was because I ran superdrol then pheraplex for 5 months straight and at the end, I was locking up and I couldn't have sex more than 2-3 times a day

And

Goddamn....... 5 months of SD-PP bridge.

How were your liver enzymes?

10 bucks says he never had them tested and now he has a liver wanting to kill itself

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

ORIGINAL: dapunisher

Hey man good to see you back!

As for your cycles, if I read and understood corretly you only take 4 weeks off between cycles?

And as for phasing into Hdrol... I don't think you're going to feel much from Hdrol after Mdrol cycle.
Because 1st Mdrol is a lot stronger and 2ndly Hdrol takes around end of week 2 to kick in.

I'll have to disagree with you for PCT advice tho. For Superdrol clones Nolva, Torem or something to that extend is definately needed.
A mild AI like 6oxo is not nearly enough.

I know Mdrol is stronger, that's why I use Hdrol to phase off of it.

Yeah, I only take 4 weeks off between cycles.

...and you know me, I've never been big on PCT. I still haven't heard of one person, including myself, who's been penalized physically from not doing PCT.

The only time I used 6-OXO was because I ran superdrol then pheraplex for 5 months straight and at the end, I was locking up and I couldn't have sex more than 2-3 times a day. I know, that was stupid to run PHs for that long, but it just became habit and although the gains stopped after 2 months, the strength never left the entire time I was on it.

Thanks for the WB, it feels good to be back around all the old school DBB'ers and reading fresh posts from the new schoolers.

physically maybe not, but internally, it can reek havoc. but w/e floats yar boat...


And Nolva for S-drol is actually not reccomended cuz it may increase the risk of boobies...yes....biatch titties.

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar
Go look at my comeback thread over in OOB and you'll see I told everyone I had my bloodwork done recently. You owe dapunisher 10 bucks, and you win the Anti-PH Message Board Cliche-of-the-Day award for Thursday, June 26th, 2008.

so what were the numbers, and im not against PH, although i am against PH ABUSE, which a 5 month cycle is, its reasons like this the media can so easily trash PH, because people like you abuse it.

Lul Wut?


You do know that Nolvadex is a SERM right?
It blocks the estrogen receptors... so how exactly is it supposed to increase the change of gyno....

Nolva has been recommended and used for several decades.
Only reason it's not recommended now is because it's also somewhat hepatoxic.... that is why most people go the Toremifene route. Which IMO is far better for PCT.

I can see how an AI will increase the risk of gyno when stopped...but no one uses AI for PCT it's used on cycle.

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ORIGINAL: deadlysuperstar

ORIGINAL: dapunisher

Hey man good to see you back!

As for your cycles, if I read and understood corretly you only take 4 weeks off between cycles?

And as for phasing into Hdrol... I don't think you're going to feel much from Hdrol after Mdrol cycle.
Because 1st Mdrol is a lot stronger and 2ndly Hdrol takes around end of week 2 to kick in.

I'll have to disagree with you for PCT advice tho. For Superdrol clones Nolva, Torem or something to that extend is definately needed.
A mild AI like 6oxo is not nearly enough.

I know Mdrol is stronger, that's why I use Hdrol to phase off of it.

Yeah, I only take 4 weeks off between cycles.

...and you know me, I've never been big on PCT. I still haven't heard of one person, including myself, who's been penalized physically from not doing PCT.

The only time I used 6-OXO was because I ran superdrol then pheraplex for 5 months straight and at the end, I was locking up and I couldn't have sex more than 2-3 times a day. I know, that was stupid to run PHs for that long, but it just became habit and although the gains stopped after 2 months, the strength never left the entire time I was on it.

Thanks for the WB, it feels good to be back around all the old school DBB'ers and reading fresh posts from the new schoolers.

physically maybe not, but internally, it can reek havoc. but w/e floats yar boat...


And Nolva for S-drol is actually not reccomended cuz it may increase the risk of boobies...yes....biatch titties.

Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.

ORIGINAL: dapunisher

Lul Wut?


You do know that Nolvadex is a SERM right?
It blocks the estrogen receptors... so how exactly is it supposed to increase the change of gyno....

Nolva has been recommended and used for several decades.
Only reason it's not recommended now is because it's also somewhat hepatoxic.... that is why most people go the Toremifene route. Which IMO is far better for PCT.

I can see how an AI will increase the risk of gyno when stopped...but no one uses AI for PCT it's used on cycle.

umm no **** its a SERM....i meant superdrol and nolva has been known to increase the risks of gyno, ive read many things saying that during the PCT their gyno have gotten worse or not gone away at all on an s-drol cycle. theres something about s-drol + nolva that is risky for some reason..only with s-drol. but, i can be totally wrong, i have not used superdrol.

"A severed foot is the ultimate stocking-stuffer" "Obsession is what the LAZY use to describe dedication" "You put your faith in Christianity. I put mine in artillery"

ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420

ORIGINAL: dapunisher

Lul Wut?


You do know that Nolvadex is a SERM right?
It blocks the estrogen receptors... so how exactly is it supposed to increase the change of gyno....

Nolva has been recommended and used for several decades.
Only reason it's not recommended now is because it's also somewhat hepatoxic.... that is why most people go the Toremifene route. Which IMO is far better for PCT.

I can see how an AI will increase the risk of gyno when stopped...but no one uses AI for PCT it's used on cycle.

umm no **** its a SERM....i meant superdrol and nolva has been known to increase the risks of gyno, ive read many things saying that during the PCT their gyno have gotten worse or not gone away at all on an s-drol cycle. theres something about s-drol + nolva that is risky for some reason..only with s-drol. but, i can be totally wrong, i have not used superdrol.

I believe what youre talking about is not just related to nolvadex... Superdrol is a progesterone, which means that instead of increasing estrogen levels like normal androgens do, progesterone based anabolics/androgens will spike your prolactin levels, which nolva / clomid and even letro, rimi, and exemastane cant do anything to help.  For prolactin induced gyno(the same gyno you can get with trenbolone) you must use bromocriptine or cabergoline.  Nolva will slightly raise prolactin levels so i can see why nolva is an exceptionally bad choice in the SERM dept. post superdrol tho.

AFAA(Aerobics and Fitness Associations of America) Certified Personal Trainer.

I'm not getting that information from the media, i am telling you the reason there is a stigma about steroids.  If they were safe to take in 5 month cycles wouldnt you see everyone doing that then?  Or are all of the other bodybuilder/powerlifters crazy.  I can gaurantee they know more about cycles than you and me combined and they dont do 5 month cycles of methylated compounds, and when they do and start getting scik and liver failure occurs they know why.

if you want to put your body through tests like a guinea pig by all means go for im not here to stop you, but dont go around toting your a badass because you took a 5 month cycle, it gives kids who have no idea what they are doing the idea they can do the same when clearly they cannot.

also the points you bolded in red, i was explaining why the media trashes steroids, that doesnt mean thats where i get my information, reading comprehension > you

Lol Deadly, you are legit. Your posts are the sh!t.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:170 Height:5'8
Bench:205
Squat:225
DeadLift:235