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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 3/26/2004 8:30:51 PM
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poncho
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nice ill most deffinatley take that into consideration in the split, oh by the way, i was flipping through max ot, and was confuzzled, whats the diffrencde between dumbell flies and chest press? is the chest press dont without arms bent or not? im 16 and should be picking up next monday.
ps vitiman c is awesome!
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/1/2004 5:27:45 PM
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poncho
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i hope i didnt kill the thread, back to benching, up to 320! w00t! i cant wait for whats next. whoyah!
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/2/2004 9:54:02 AM
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boyrancher6250
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at 16yrs old, u can push 320.............ill bow down to that if i saw it..............ta ta
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/2/2004 8:36:03 PM
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poncho
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if all possible i know where to get a digital-video camera at school, can upload when i film, if its able to be loaded on here . might be more depending on when its shot. i just gotta take it one day at a time. after break, should be able to. a lot of things occur that affect. sofar, record, this may be a bit off topic, and id sure would not have any objections to documenting/ taping, but tis around 420 on squats, 325 on deads, and 320ish benching. not a lot, but not a ittly bit. i can not curl more than 135, but i doubt the biceps play a major role in benching. currentley i am 230, with 15%bf, around 5'8". gotta gain some mas for the off season of wrestling... fun times
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/5/2004 8:47:52 PM
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poncho
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Whoa. 345? itbrings back memories of the benching i dd when in wrestling. nothing to sneeze at. i know exactly what you mean, people around, helping if you need it. varies, although they kept saying, get angry! lol it might have worked if i had not been warming up for the tourney. i felt it for a week after, could barley reech cross my torso, it was defieled.. go you, youll probally be pulling 400 plus by years end. as for me ive tried, only at 325 for 6 at a friends house. btw, any recomendations for size? i consider myself to be tiny, although im a bit over 200. keep it up man, iyoull be pushing a chunk in no time.
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/13/2004 3:24:09 PM
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colombian369
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Can I get a couple tips to build up my chest? I'm pretty weak on the bench, on my second rep do I have to go up that far in weight or just move up to a comfortable that I can push?
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/13/2004 5:28:42 PM
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pwolf66
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quote:
ORIGINAL: colombian369
Can I get a couple tips to build up my chest? I'm pretty weak on the bench, on my second rep do I have to go up that far in weight or just move up to a comfortable that I can push?
Then use nothing but dumbell's for several weeks. My recommendation is to not use a barbell and perform the following exercises at a minimum.
Flat Bench DB press
Incline DB Press
Now a major point to remember is that bench is not just pecs, it's shoulders (Delts) and Triceps also.
Paul
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/19/2004 4:30:10 PM
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Marc David
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Week 9 of Critical Bench
Flat Bench Press:
270 x 5; 290 x 4;325x2; 225 x 8
Incline Bench Press:
155 x 8; 185 x 6; 205x 5
Decline Dumbbell Flyes:
40x8;45x8;50x6
Summary:
Doing 325 lbs for 2 reps was not bad! Hard as hell and I had to push 100% but my spotter didn't seem phased. I've noticed that many people if they have to help too much will say something.
Pretty sore the next whole week. I missed posting this right after I did it. But overall, another great workout.
These weights are way over what I would normally handle so I'm feeling pretty good about the program after week 9. 8 weeks ago there was no way I could do 315 lbs on my own.. Now I'm pretty confident that I'm going to be able to do it a few times. Maybe 1 or 2 times but that is above my record when I started and most certainly shows me this particular program has worked for my training style and needs.
Week 10 is right around the corner. Nothing nearly as crazy as week 8. But It's above the 300 mark for sure.
< Message edited by mda1125 -- 4/19/2004 4:30:40 PM >
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/21/2004 8:11:43 AM
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Ironpumper
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Hang on a second MDA...I am a little confused. Your goal is to max out at 315 at the end of the program but last week you did 325 X 2....so arent you already at your goal??
And would you reccommend critical bench to a teen?
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/21/2004 9:45:31 AM
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pwolf66
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Marc,
I know that CB is all about the bench but how has the rest of your body responded? I'm seriously toying with CB next but I would like to at least maintain what I have acheived in other areas. I know that Shoulders and Triceps are gonna be pounded as part of the bench routines but how has YOUR body responded in the areas that have NOT be a main focus?
Paul
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 4/27/2004 9:38:02 PM
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Marc David
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Week 11 of Critical Bench
Flat Bench Press:
270 x 5; 290 x 4;315x2; 225 x 10
Incline Dumbbell Press:
85 x 8; 90 x 6; 100 x 5
Cable Flyes:
80x7;70x8;70x8
Summary:
When I put up 290 lbs for 5 reps.. 4 of those being pretty strong.. I knew I could hit the 315 lbs mark. It was lighter then I'd done the previous Week 10 (which I know I'm missing a post! But it was just Week 10.. I was stoked about this week).
So rather then talk about my summary because this workout was good.. I'm gonna drop into the conclusion.
Conclusion:
Critical Bench was a customized program that set me back $37. At the end of the program, I went from my very first workout of a new max of 285 lbs to my current new max of 315 lbs. That's 30 lbs on my bench. And when I was already at what I thought was my max, 30 lbs isn't so bad!
Although I felt in Week 10 when I put up 325 lbs for 2 reps, pretty much ME.. at least 1 by myself, that was really my new max. Today seemed easier. But I did it.
So after 11 weeks on this program, I figured that my bench has gone up by 30-50 lbs. I went from thinking 225 lbs was heavy and barely got 1 rep out 2 years ago, to getting 2 reps out at 325 lbs.
My feelings were that at 265 lbs, I was at my max. After starting this program, I finally got to my personal goal of 3 plates a side. Which is exactly what I want to do.
So to keep this short, I felt Critical Bench was a good program, well worth the money for something different and took me out of my plateau and onto new levels. No longer will I look at 315 lbs and wonder "What if." I know I can now go into the gym and do it. Granted, it's heavy. A max lift for sure. But it does not scare me to think about it.
I would recommend the Critical Bench program to anybody who is experienced. Has benched for some time. Free weights. Is stuck at some weight. And wants to break out of it and isn't afraid to lift heavy and hard. Having a consistent partner to help and having good spotters on Week 8 was critical. But the program was about improving the bench. Strength. And it worked for me.
Recommend. 
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RE: Critical Bench -The Review - 5/1/2004 11:41:57 PM
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boyrancher6250
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good stuff mda....glad to hear u hit ur goals........I on the other hand didnt do well with CB....the enviornment was bad....so was sleep..so i decided to start it up all over again.......now that im in the states workin 8 hours a day, NOT 12...lol i never quite hit the 275 mark........the one time i THOUGHT i did, the spotter help the bar the whole time so i didnt count it......he says it was all me, who knows!!!!
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