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RE: Need help please - 8/21/2005 6:42:53 AM   
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Protein supplements-bullcrap

Protein supplements are the exat proteins you find in your foods and what your body syntheseis naturally from the amino acids, which are too present very slightly in protein supplements.

Theres nothing dangerous about them

your body has been using them proteins since you have been a little baby inside your mothers womb.

The supplements that would most likely do that are

Pro hormones
HGH(too much)
Steroids

Nitric oxide also has radical effects

and free radicals can cause infertility due to cancer or other things etc

But i wont put that here as thats my belief and not the belief of most people.

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RE: Need help please - 8/22/2005 2:18:50 AM   
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quote:

HGH(too much)
Steroids

Nitric oxide also has radical effects

and free radicals


am i glad to hear thatSmile.......i know what Steroids and Hormones are.......but what are HGH, nitric oxide and radicals?...are those like extra things people use to buff up?

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RE: Need help please - 8/22/2005 4:36:37 PM   
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HGH is human growth hormone which is produced by the pituitary gland which makes you grow taller, its what gives us our growth spurts, this HGH goes into bones *forgotten name* something and allows growth

If you take too much you can cause major hormone/chemical imbalances etc

HGH can also make you build muscle etc too
Nitric oxide is a supplement, that causes free radicals, a free radical is basically an electron

This will sound like a foreign language to you now as im assuming you dont take chemistry

But nitric oxide has oxidising properties, in doing so it makes free radicals when it makes certain bonds when the nitrix oxide reacts, and free electrons in the body will bond with ions in the body which is NOT good, and causes cancer, hence why ANTI oxidants (which stop oxidising hence ANTI oxidant lol) help prevent cancer.

Just stick with your normal protein supplements and you'll be fine

I have heard taking amino acids a lot can screw your stomach up apparently, but i dont know if thats true, and you dont take amino complex pills so dont worry

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RE: Need help please - 8/22/2005 11:19:03 PM   
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you sound like a really smart scientistSmile
understood everything except for the ions boding with the electrons to make a neutron ........athough i took chemistry last yearSmile
many thanks for lots of great infoSmile

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RE: Need help please - 8/23/2005 8:40:34 AM   
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lol doesnt make a neutron,

oxidation and reduction equations

Oxidation-losing electrons
reduction-gaining electrons (yes...silly to call the gain of electrons REDUCTION i know, but it is that)

By gain and loss i dont mean electrons randomly appear and dissapear, its where they are dissociated through the bonds and either leave as a free radical, or an ion bonds with an element making it polar via its electron density yada yada.

As nitric oxide makes oxidation reactions, the bonds lead to the loss of electrons

(negative charge)

Our bodies use potassium and i think sodium ions in our nervous system to allow potential differences to give us movement etc, thats how it works on a simple basis, if an electron bonds with one of these ions (one thats positive, i think thats the potassium ion as its a group 1 element meaning its easier to just lose an electron giving it a + charge) itl lead to screwed up nerves, it can also screw up cells and just make damage in general.


From what i know to make neutrons you need radioactive materials to "decay" as it were.

Basically free radicals=bad


LOL

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RE: Need help please - 8/26/2005 1:27:56 AM   
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lol....bytheway are you a science/chemistry major? (just curious)

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RE: Need help please - 8/27/2005 8:20:58 AM   
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No,We don't exactly major here in england til we're 18+ (mainschool(4-16), college(16-18), university(18-21)<<USUAL AGES, thats how it goes here, in america colleges and universities are kinda the same thing from what i know

Im 18 but still doing A levels because i was an idiot and didnt try so lagged behind a year or two

Right now im taking A level Physics, Chemistry and Biology

I have natural talent in Chemistry

I have good talent when i work hard in biology

Physics...
well lets just say this forum doesnt allow swearing so i cant say how good i am at physics here

LOL

(Maybe if i got some decent teachers who actually speak ENGLISH id get better physics grades Smile)

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RE: Need help please - 8/27/2005 5:54:49 PM   
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lol, that's crazy...poeple there go to college at 16! wow
P.S. university and college are pretty much the same thing...although college is more for people who f***ed up in high school........they go to a community college, get a 3.0 avergar and then transfer to a good university.(what i'm doing right now, but it's different for me cause i'm still in high school and i just do it to get ahead._Smile

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RE: Need help please - 8/31/2005 7:17:32 AM   
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5.0 is the highest you can get isnt it?

even with craploads of american friends on my MSN i still get confused with the schooling system Smile

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RE: Need help please - 8/31/2005 7:42:55 AM   
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i get confused with american schooling too, in canada its simple, finish highschool, choose what you want to study, go to college or university... pretty simple

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RE: Need help please - 8/31/2005 12:12:48 PM   
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yeah that is a lot simpler

What annoys me in england is they dont let you advance in subjects you pass

during highschool i...went through a little teenage thing, meaning i basically screwed up, and only got 3 GCSE's (funnily enough the 3 hardest-maths and science [science i took double award, meaning i got 2 science GCSE's])

so i try to go for A levels science as they involve science and maths

and they said i couldnt because i didnt pass in business studies history french technology etc etc

and im like....wtf?!

when will i have to do that in science?!?!

so did a year of crappy IT, which had the motivation of a dead carcass, and got bored damn STIFF, and gave me a load of crappy problems too, but last year i complained about it all, was asked to prove my worth, that i was grown up and could do A levels, they gave me a term to see if i was good enough and i was MORE than damn good enough, in fact i was working better than some people with many A grade GCSE's under there belt.

They really should just let people advance in the things they passed over here, im not a multi talented genius like theyre trying to get people to be here, i am however bloody good at science and maths lol

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RE: Need help please - 9/6/2005 3:20:13 PM   
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yeah that is a lot simpler

What annoys me in england is they dont let you advance in subjects you pass

during highschool i...went through a little teenage thing, meaning i basically screwed up, and only got 3 GCSE's (funnily enough the 3 hardest-maths and science [science i took double award, meaning i got 2 science GCSE's])

so i try to go for A levels science as they involve science and maths

and they said i couldnt because i didnt pass in business studies history french technology etc etc

and im like....wtf?!

when will i have to do that in science?!?!

so did a year of crappy IT, which had the motivation of a dead carcass, and got bored damn STIFF, and gave me a load of crappy problems too, but last year i complained about it all, was asked to prove my worth, that i was grown up and could do A levels, they gave me a term to see if i was good enough and i was MORE than damn good enough, in fact i was working better than some people with many A grade GCSE's under there belt.

They really should just let people advance in the things they passed over here, im not a multi talented genius like theyre trying to get people to be here, i am however bloody good at science and maths lol


that's horrible, it's pretty much the same here and it always will be, you laways have to pass "certain classes" in order to meet all the requirements and my opinion of those classes is just that they're are a complete waste of time. if instead i worked out everytime i was sitting in a boring  class room which wasn't going to ever help me or make me smarter....i would be the buffer than arnold shwar....ger right nowSmile

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RE: Need help please - 9/6/2005 4:04:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dirtytoes


is it true that protein supplement shakes can harm your body in a way that later in life you won't be able have a baby/kid ? ....fact, myth?

NO WAY!!!!!!!!  if it was, EVERYBODY in ANY gym would be screwed.  Don't worry, drinking a ps wont harm your sperm at all!

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RE: Need help please - 9/7/2005 8:01:43 AM   
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shwar....ger

LMAO

schwarzenegger is how its spelt i think lol

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RE: Need help please - 9/13/2005 5:52:39 PM   
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shwar....ger

LMAO

schwarzenegger is how its spelt i think lol


lol 8)

thx for all the replies guys, now i know for a fact that it won't harm my body so yea...off to the gym. Smile

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RE: Need help please - 9/13/2005 6:27:50 PM   
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so yea...off to the gym. Smile

HELL YEA, thats what i like to hear!!!!!!!

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RE: Need help please - 9/21/2005 8:52:58 PM   
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HELL YEA, thats what i like to hear!!!!!!!


Smile
....been working on my beer belly lately....lol jk, i've always had the 4 pack, trying to get all six now....it's killing meSmile

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