Where are the over 35 guys?
|
Users viewing this topic:
none
|
|
Logged in as: Guest
|
Login  | |
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 12/5/2003 6:59:47 PM
|
|
|
Marc David
Posts: 6742
Joined: 4/6/2003
From: Bay Area -CA
Status: offline
|
Not in the over 35 category.
See.. the training for a 35 year old is the same as 28... same as 62.
I'm 31. The guy I train legs with is 40 and he kicks my butt. I saw this older Harley riding guy in my gym.. he's 62 and squats 315 lbs.
So I'm thinking that a forum for over 35 means little considering people train just as hard at 35+ as they do when they are 18.. maybe more.
And are there really any special considerations for 35+? I know at 35 I outta be stronger then I am currently at 31..
_____________________________
(in reply to Guest)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 12/6/2003 5:38:42 PM
|
|
|
Guest
|
Point well taken.
(in reply to Marc David)
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 12/19/2003 2:13:24 PM
|
|
|
Powerhaus
Posts: 1065
Joined: 12/17/2003
From: Oakland, CA
Status: offline
|
I'm 33...will be 34 in February.
Only real difference is as you get older, recovery times increase. Of course, we might hope that as we age we gain wisdom, understanding, and perspective....hmmmmm
(in reply to Guest)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/7/2004 11:56:41 AM
|
|
|
Twin Peak
Posts: 1489
Joined: 5/9/2003
Status: offline
|
Also, warming up and injury prevention becomes more important, I am sad to say.
_____________________________
http://www.designersupps.com
Email: steve @ designersupps.com
Peak Physiques™
INTELLIGENT DESIGN IS COMING, register now at
http://www.intelligentdesignmag.com
(in reply to Powerhaus)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/7/2004 3:09:49 PM
|
|
|
Marc David
Posts: 6742
Joined: 4/6/2003
From: Bay Area -CA
Status: offline
|
I take glucosamine on a regular basis. I do notice that it really does help. I'm 31 and I'll continue to take that supplement for quite some time. It does work in my case. When I go off it, I can feel slight aches and pains creeping back.
Thanks for the post. Gives me hope when I get older that it's not over.
I know this guy in my gym that's 62. He's still squatting 315 lbs. That to me is amazing.
_____________________________
(in reply to axgar)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/7/2004 6:12:33 PM
|
|
|
Shera
Posts: 112
Joined: 7/19/2003
From: Ontario, Canada
Status: offline
|
We've got a guy like that in my gym as well...62 and he's more shredded than the young 20-somethings...he's quite the joker too!
As for age, I'm 36, and well my journal speaks for itself....I do find that I need the recovery time...if I lift 2 days in a row, I had better rest on the 3rd...on the ambitious days that I've not rested and lifted 3 days in a row...i've paid dearly...tired, grumpy..no good...so ya "wiser" too
(in reply to Marc David)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/12/2004 3:15:58 PM
|
|
|
dmatlock
Posts: 15
Joined: 1/5/2004
Status: offline
|
Well I have been lifting for about 20 years. I am now 49. I got serious(prepare for compition) about 5 years ago. I was in the best shape of my life. I now find that it does take more intensity and recoveryt to make any gains. Gains are very hard to come by and you loose them quicker. After 40 we start to loose muscle and easily gain bodyfat. After 45 it goes even faster. If you notice hard core lifters over 40, you can see the difference(no matter how hard they work). The guys you describe sounds like they have good genes. I am trying to get close to where I was a few years ago. I eat decently and take my own brand of supplements. Bottom line, it does get to be harder, but not impossible.
(in reply to Shera)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/13/2004 3:07:18 PM
|
|
|
dmatlock
Posts: 15
Joined: 1/5/2004
Status: offline
|
Here is what I have learned.
1. Eat clean. Meaning healthy foods. i.e chicken breast, tuna, fish, potatoes, brown rice, oatmeal and lots of veggies. The body absorbs this better than any supplement. I ate a LOT of chicken breast when I was preparing for my contest....cluck cluck cluck.
2. Multi-vitimans. No matter how well you eat, you still need the 'extra' source of the micro nutrients that vitamins provide. Good quality over the counter ones will do.
3. Water, water, water, water, water.....did I say water?
4. I used Designer Protein.......it worked very well for me. Just a word about protein. As we get older, the body absorbs it more slowly. What it does not absorb, it stores as fat. My intake now is much less than what it use to be.
5. Personally, I do not use creatine. I have used it and it caused me to store water and therefore get that smooth look. I have good genes and can cut up quickly(lucky me), so creatine only worked against me. However, it does give you the 'power' to workout more intensely. That is because it replaces ATP in our muscles, etc.....
I think that setting a goal for a competition is great...it gives you something to shoot for. I don't know how much you lift now, but I only took 6 months of total focus to prepare for my contest. I had always lifted, but used that time to really focus, diet, cardio, etc... It was well worth it. All bodybuilders have a little narcissism in them. That's the whole point.....right
(in reply to axgar)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/14/2004 3:35:45 PM
|
|
|
dmatlock
Posts: 15
Joined: 1/5/2004
Status: offline
|
Excellent!!! Keep up the good work. Yes, a good partner is invaluable. I had one when I was training and it made a world of difference. He was bigger than me, but I am pretty strong, so we did not hold each other back. I don't have a partner now and it sucks...oh well. I keep a log now. Just remember to keep your form when lifting. That prevents injuries and also works the muscle that you are targeting and not other parts of your body. I see so many guys using incorrect form just to move heavy weights. The weight will come. Build the muscle without destroying the rest of your body.
(in reply to axgar)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/14/2004 3:38:42 PM
|
|
|
dmatlock
Posts: 15
Joined: 1/5/2004
Status: offline
|
At 31 you are hitting prime time for lifters. Have you ever competed?
(in reply to Marc David)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/14/2004 11:10:52 PM
|
|
|
vtech
Posts: 3
Joined: 1/14/2004
Status: offline
|
Well I'm 42 and tried lots of supplements. Creatine caused very high blood pressure in me. My big supplement has always been a good vitamin-mineral. Just found a real good one all natural take it with your meals through out the day www.faithsvitamin.com. I do take L-arginine with ornithine usually an hour before work out. It helps your metabolic rate which gives me more energy to workout. I have probably been working out for 25yrs now, of course not always faithful but my knees are shot from heavy squats elbows hurt shoulders sometimes hurt it is not easy anymore. I just can't give it up though. I feel better working out.
vtech
(in reply to dmatlock)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/15/2004 9:03:19 AM
|
|
|
Marc David
Posts: 6742
Joined: 4/6/2003
From: Bay Area -CA
Status: offline
|
quote:
my knees are shot from heavy squats
Sorry to hear that.
I am curious though.. I've asked a few people 32+ about heavy squats. They also tell me the knee stories. One guy said, you know.. you can get really big strong legs by doing squats at 315 lbs. There's no need to do squats at 405.
Seems like most of the guys I talk to had done the 405+ squats. And over time, that just took them out.
I'm wondering if I just keep the weight lower.. 275-315 lbs, if I can get decent sized legs and maybe avoid the super heavy stuff that takes its toll over time.
Especially on the joints.
_____________________________
(in reply to vtech)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/15/2004 10:19:34 AM
|
|
|
dmatlock
Posts: 15
Joined: 1/5/2004
Status: offline
|
I just came back from my annual physical yesterday. My doctor warned me that heavy lifting will contribute to arthritis in my later years. He suggested that I cut back on the weights and just maintain what I have. However, I feel like VTECH and love moving heavy weights.
I think that I am going to have to change my routine and do lighter weights, but more reps. I have had a bad shoulder before, that took over a year to heal and that was no fun.
Any older lifters out there, with what they have experienced? I know that the truth is that when you get past a certain age, you have to change or suffer the long term consequences.
(in reply to Marc David)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/19/2004 10:10:36 AM
|
|
|
axgar
Posts: 186
Joined: 1/5/2004
From: Denver, Colorado
Status: offline
|
Perspective: My experience is that my actions during our youth are impacting now in my 40's. I'm sure the same holds true for 60's, etc. Concerning knees - I'm lucky that I didn't beat my joints up in school sports or other activities. Now I actually feel better squating 315lbs than I did not exercising or using squats in my routines. Let's be honest aging sucks but we can help make the inevitable bearable by using our brains and paying attention to how our bodies feel. Also I find that genetics play a big part in how my body changes and reacts to exercise. For me, arthritis and knee pains runs in my family. I am combating this by taking Glucosamine, losing body fat, and exercising smartly. I have now fallen in love with building a body that will carry me into my golden age with less maintenance, prescriptions, and discomfort.
< Message edited by axgar -- 1/19/2004 10:13:12 AM >
(in reply to Marc David)
|
|
|
|
|
RE: Where are the over 35 guys? - 1/19/2004 11:43:06 AM
|
|
|
BIGDOG
Posts: 35
Joined: 1/6/2004
Status: offline
|
You make several excellent points here. Like you, I've paid for the sins of my youth: knees gone from hockey, shoulder shot from thirty plus years of competitive baseball. I met forty as a smoker and someone who liked to eat a lot of everything.
I'm forty-seven now and don't smoke anymore, eat healthy, and lift to keep healthy. I don't need to get any bigger, hell I'm six-two, 235, 49.5" chest, 18" bi/tri's. What I need is to maintain what I've got. This is something I'd like to see more discussion on, because I think there's lots of us out there who are getting smarter about the way we live, but not so concerned with that extra gram of fat we had at lunch because we know we'll move 4-5 tons of iron at the gym four times a week.
Comments?
(in reply to axgar)
|
|
|
|
|
|
Advertisement
|
|
|
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
 Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts |
|
|
Printable Version
If I only knew then what I know now! I would take focus and intensity back to my youth and kick some serious weights around. 
. I curious which supplements you find most useful? I would expect my body to respond differently as I age. For example, in your experience does protein supplementation become even more important or creatine? I have set a goal to focus on increasing my muscle mass as much as possible over the next two years. Then I plan to enter a competition just for the experience and culmination of my goal (maybe a little ego too! 
