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I have been doing some research on supp's and I wonder if anyone could give me the low down on "Animal Stak" that have used it. I understand that the Ph's they use convert into both Test and Estro. They seem to have a combination of all the horomons, androgens, insulin controllers and other helpful PCT's I hear about and read about. However I haven't heard many good things about the ingrenients because of the potential side effects. Personally I am not worried about the potential side effects, I am only intrested in the potential short term results of both wieght and strength gains with an extreem workout program over a 8 week period. I plan to use ATP Creatine, Heavyweight Gainer 900, GL-3 L-Glutamine, and either Animal Stak or M1T with 6-oxo PCT. Help with my goals also.....
current - 5'11 180 / 225, 8 reps / V jump, 30 / L jump, 8'3 / 40, 4.61 /
goals - 190lbs / 225 14 reps / v jump, 36 / L jump, 9'3 / 40, 4.49

welcome in the fabulous world on illegal substances !
since andros are now illegal, I'll answer this one in the shadow !
creatine and weigth gain protein are fine....
regarding M1T or animal stack I'd suggest you to skip those and start the MAX-OT program or critical bench. Train right, sleep a lot and eat like a horse...this is your best legal bet

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

Thanks but that didn't help at all.. I don't need to learn how to work out.. I need to know what helps create the best results outside daily routines such as eating well and getting sleep. I have 5.5% body fat, and I eat anyting I want 4-5 times a day. I sleep well every night and I currenty am getting great gains using just 50mg a day of DHEA. I play professional sports and I am looking for an edge in my off season program. Thanks anyway.

if you play profesional and NEED to go in illegal stuff to perform better....shame on you....
pro-hormones may not be that much dangerous...well almost not if taken right.

if you want to perform better, that starts in your head !

my 2 cents

Everyone is entitled to be stupid, but some abuse the privilege.

whats illegal?

prohormones and steriods

"Try and fail is the manner of losers. Try and learn is the way of the strong." -- Unknown

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I thought that only Androgens were illegal?

Maybe where you live, but here in the US, pretty much everything prohormone and steroid related is illegal.

"Try and fail is the manner of losers. Try and learn is the way of the strong." -- Unknown

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is there something not good about animal stak?

i'm on day 10 of the stak 2, and i have noticed an increase in small zits on my back, none on face or anything. So it must be doing what it is supposed to. I will need two bottles to know full effect i heard.

AGE 23
Height: 5'9"

Arms 14 5/8"




"TRAIN LIKE AN ANIMAL"

6 oxo will do little for anyone under 35. use the stak 2 for its got many ingredients vs 1 in 6 0x0.

AGE 23
Height: 5'9"

Arms 14 5/8"




"TRAIN LIKE AN ANIMAL"

animal stak 2 is legal, otherwise it wouldn't be forsale everywhere. And I am from canada and laws are tougher then they are in the usa on products like this.

AGE 23
Height: 5'9"

Arms 14 5/8"




"TRAIN LIKE AN ANIMAL"

I am on day 20 of a 21 day cycle of Stak2. I have to say I am very impressed with the results.   I look bigger, to myself, and my muscles are harder and fuller.  I am stacking Stak2 Animal Pak and Animal cuts so can’t say which product is directly reasonable for my results.  But I can say I will definitely be restarting Stak2 as soon as I take the recommended week off.

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so...no recommendations for the original animal stack?  is it worthless now that there is new lines of this product??  i'm not looking to go crazy on gains or supplementation, but i do want a good solid stak that will work.

So basically, in anyone's opinion, is Animal Stack better than BSN products?  How much does this stack go for and is this more effective than the Mass Stack?  I'll have to research this.  Please let me know though!
 
-Brian

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