taking advise from boomer, by going to the gym twice a day whilst cutting.
 
cardio morning, lifts after work...
 
if i am going straight onto cardio machine when i get up (possibly have protein bar first) then what should i have post cardio.
 
i normally have my shake after a lift with a banana.
is it the same with cardio or should i jus have a banana?

after cardio you should probably have some whey protein and mix in some bcaa powder.

you should also have some bcaa's before you get your cardio on in the morning.  why are you doing cardio in a catabolic state?  that's not in your best interest,  unless you like watching you muscles eating themselves b/c they have no nutrients while you do cardio.

bcaa powder.   what is it ?
please let me know
 
Mahika

bcaa powder = branch chain amino acids.

protein is made up of what we call amino acids, several of them.   so bcaa is just already broken-down protein.  it's absorbed quicker than the normal protein powder.

Thanks,
 
 Mahika

 

ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

you should also have some bcaa's before you get your cardio on in the morning.  why are you doing cardio in a catabolic state?  that's not in your best interest,  unless you like watching you muscles eating themselves b/c they have no nutrients while you do cardio.

 
this is getting silly lol. theres a post of the training forum about best times to train and boomer and david had a massive argument about it all, so decided to solve it by just seperating the two! now thats no good either????
 
i was told its best to do cardio in the morning on a light or empty stomach by quite a few of them on here, but not lift,  then lift bout 8 hours later after eating all day???

ORIGINAL: zultan

 

ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

you should also have some bcaa's before you get your cardio on in the morning.  why are you doing cardio in a catabolic state?  that's not in your best interest,  unless you like watching you muscles eating themselves b/c they have no nutrients while you do cardio.

this is getting silly lol. theres a post of the training forum about best times to train and boomer and david had a massive argument about it all, so decided to solve it by just seperating the two! now thats no good either????

i was told its best to do cardio in the morning on a light or empty stomach by quite a few of them on here, but not lift,  then lift bout 8 hours later after eating all day???

that's fine.  i didn't mean to confuse you.

yes.. an empty stomach is fine.  HOWEVER... your muscles need some type of food.

if you get up from sleeping for 8 hours, and hit the treadmil.. your body is CRAVING nutrients.   so if you don't give the muscles a substantial amount of food, the body will pull from the muscles in order to fuel your cardiovascular session.

catabolism - ... wikipedia that term if you need to.

i'm not saying you need to eat a full meal.   but 25 grams of whey protein with BCAA powder is enough muscle food to keep the muscles fed, and the body can pull from the fat reserves and eat those calories.

make sense?

ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

i'm not saying you need to eat a full meal.   but 25 grams of whey protein with BCAA powder is enough muscle food to keep the muscles fed, and the body can pull from the fat reserves and eat those calories.

make sense?

 
so basically if i have a scoop of whey then im sorted, how long should i have the shake before the cardio? can i have it and jump right on the tredmill or wait 30mins?

whey has to be broken down, so either take it 30 minutes before hopping on the treadmil.. OR, you can take the whey with bcaa powder.  and the powder is absorbed within a few minutes b/c it's already in the broken-down state.. ready to be used.

what about popping a mutlivitamin?
 
i dont do whey after i do cardio, but maybe i should start?

il jus get up earlier then and take a small shake with a multi vit i have anyway in the morning. thanks fox

I would do your cardio when you can. If you want to seperate them then that is fine. Most of your cutting is going to come from limiting your calories, cardio will help you burn some fat but not if you are consuming more energy(calories) then you are burning.
 
If you do cardio in the morning, then I would take some BCAA before workout and then have your normal breakfast postcardio.
 
If you do cardio when you lift then I would lift first, then do cardio. I would still take bcaa before workout and then take whey and bcaa postWO. I would then have a meal after about an hour postWO.

ORIGINAL: RedJeep

I would do your cardio when you can. If you want to seperate them then that is fine. Most of your cutting is going to come from limiting your calories, cardio will help you burn some fat but not if you are consuming more energy(calories) then you are burning.

If you do cardio in the morning, then I would take some BCAA before workout and then have your normal breakfast postcardio.

If you do cardio when you lift then I would lift first, then do cardio. I would still take bcaa before workout and then take whey and bcaa postWO. I would then have a meal after about an hour postWO.

well there you go zultan.  

this was what i was trying to say, but mine came out sporatically.

great advice redjeep.  that's exactly how i would do it as well

sterling. thanks to both of you

Wow you have a 49.5" chest and 19.5" arms and only weigh 254lbs? What is your bodyfat that you need to cut?