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RE: Good grip - 5/12/2008 3:22:16 PM
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kingkebabs
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Because, forearms are the muscle which give you grip.
Hammers help to..
This is incorrect.
Functional grip strength derives from working the fingers. Forearm hypertrophy is nothing but a biproduct of working the fingers since the connective muscle tissue runs from the fingers and up the entire arm. You can't strengthen one end of the chain and expect the opposing end to miraculously follow suit.
The actual muscle of the hand plays a huge of not an entire factor of effective grip.
If you want a strong grip you work the hands.
To the OP: A pair of CoC's is a training tool which you should consider.
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RE: Good grip - 5/12/2008 3:25:56 PM
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ORIGINAL: Red PittBull
Because, forearms are the muscle which give you grip.
Hammers help to..
This is incorrect.
Functional grip strength derives from working the fingers. Forearm hypertrophy is nothing but a biproduct of working the fingers since the connective muscle tissue runs from the fingers and up the entire arm. You can't strengthen one end of the chain and expect the opposing end to miraculously follow suit.
The actual muscle of the hand plays a huge of not an entire factor of effective grip.
If you want a strong grip you work the hands.
To the OP: A pair of CoC's is a training tool which you should consider.
ALright i'll consider CoC's as i wanted to get, ill look into adjustable ones.
This thread seems to be going good so ill post my other '' thread'' here i guess...
I wanted to start either ripptoes or bill star 5x5 to build myself a good base before going onto a HST. Can anyone tell me which one is better? I've been going on and off routines, sometimes just freestylin the exercises and just workout cause i loved to, now i want to workout to get somewhere bigger.
Which one is better to start, and for how long? ( if possible, posting a workout scheme?)
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RE: Good grip - 5/14/2008 8:47:23 PM
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makinot
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also try holding a 45-pound PLATE for as long as you can. it works since your gonna hold the plate in a really weird manner like your holding a fan. it f**kin works
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RE: Good grip - 5/15/2008 7:00:40 AM
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Godzmarine
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There are 3 types of grips. Crushing, Pinching and supporting.
Crushing and supporting can be worked with the CoC grippers. Holding it closed for as long as you can would work supporting.
Try to lift a 25 plate up by the hub. That is pinch training. It is mostly thumb strength.
Get a trainer, #1 and a #2 gripper.
The trainer can be used for warming up and for 2 fingers at a time.
I am almost closing the #2
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RE: Good grip - 5/18/2008 3:48:39 AM
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vdk_au
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What about one arm hangs. I've just started to do them again, I get around 30 seconds before I lose grip. I remembered the first time I tried, and I just fell off straight away.
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RE: Good grip - 5/18/2008 6:43:18 AM
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Red PittBull
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ORIGINAL: kingkebabs
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ORIGINAL: Red PittBull
Because, forearms are the muscle which give you grip.
Hammers help to..
This is incorrect.
Functional grip strength derives from working the fingers. Forearm hypertrophy is nothing but a biproduct of working the fingers since the connective muscle tissue runs from the fingers and up the entire arm. You can't strengthen one end of the chain and expect the opposing end to miraculously follow suit.
The actual muscle of the hand plays a huge of not an entire factor of effective grip.
If you want a strong grip you work the hands.
To the OP: A pair of CoC's is a training tool which you should consider.
And you don't work your fingers when you clench them around a heavy bar?
Don't get mad, I am actually being serious. I actually thought that was right...
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I chew glass and turn it into sand. I also train in -25° whether sometimes just to toughen me up. As an ab workout, sometimes I'll have someone beat me across the stomach with a wooden stick until I turn purple. I stepped on a nail once and liked it.
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RE: Good grip - 5/18/2008 7:06:20 AM
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Soccerking3000
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another good exercise is to hold 2 plates flat sides out together with 1 hand for as long as you can, you know you have ridicuous grip strength when you can do it with 2 45 pound plates
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RE: Good grip - 5/18/2008 7:50:40 AM
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David1991
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What about one arm hangs. I've just started to do them again, I get around 30 seconds before I lose grip. I remembered the first time I tried, and I just fell off straight away.
holding urself up like the top of a chin up or just at the bottom?
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RE: Good grip - 5/18/2008 8:00:30 AM
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Soccerking3000
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down at the bottom just hanging, try it just using your fingers as hooks
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RE: Good grip - 5/19/2008 2:26:12 PM
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kingkebabs
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ORIGINAL: Red PittBull
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ORIGINAL: kingkebabs
quote:
ORIGINAL: Red PittBull
Because, forearms are the muscle which give you grip.
Hammers help to..
This is incorrect.
Functional grip strength derives from working the fingers. Forearm hypertrophy is nothing but a biproduct of working the fingers since the connective muscle tissue runs from the fingers and up the entire arm. You can't strengthen one end of the chain and expect the opposing end to miraculously follow suit.
The actual muscle of the hand plays a huge of not an entire factor of effective grip.
If you want a strong grip you work the hands.
To the OP: A pair of CoC's is a training tool which you should consider.
And you don't work your fingers when you clench them around a heavy bar?
Don't get mad, I am actually being serious. I actually thought that was right...
Training to hold a 1 inch bar will allow you to grip a 1 inch bar more effectively. i.e holding the fingers statically in a tight hooked position with minor to zero thumb recruitment - one of many less effective methods of working the hands.
With regards to hammer curls; as mentioned the actual stimulation of forearms does not give you finger / hand strength and the actual holding of the bar in the hammer curl doesn't offer anywhere near enough weight to be remotely effective or challenging to grip.
Working with a 1 inch girth bar and expecting overall grip to miraculously excel is the equivalent of expecting to develop an efficient set of abdominals by sitting upright between bench press sets.
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RE: Good grip - 5/22/2008 4:11:02 AM
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vdk_au
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What about one arm hangs. I've just started to do them again, I get around 30 seconds before I lose grip. I remembered the first time I tried, and I just fell off straight away.
holding urself up like the top of a chin up or just at the bottom?
at the bottom
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RE: Good grip - 5/22/2008 4:31:59 AM
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Luke Whippo
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THICKBAR!
train with a 2"bar until you can pull your max deadlift on it, I garentee you (or your money back j/k) you'll never ever have a problem holding any training weights on a bar ever again after working up to that, GARENTEED!!!
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