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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 10:58:20 AM   
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yea its a different feeling. not as much pressure on top of u obviously with the 20 rep squats but overall as far as taxing on the body i find higher reps to be much harder.

i'm actually thinking of going to only low rep training for awhile after NROL H-1 and maybe H-2.

its just a lot more fun way to train, regardless of rest times.
heavier weights, less burn/agony lol

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 11:15:00 AM   
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Please stick to NROL for a year man.  Pleeeeaaaassssseeeeeee.  I beg of you.  Do a whole year-long program in it (definately the guy who considers skinny an insult for you).

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 11:38:09 AM   
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Please stick to NROL for a year man.  Pleeeeaaaassssseeeeeee.  I beg of you.  Do a whole year-long program in it (definately the guy who considers skinny an insult for you).


hmm i was actually thinking u would be in favor of me doing heavy lifting.
i like the NROL workouts. but the results arent amazing. i think that has to do with diet of course too but i'm really not liking the muscle loss while cutting. im just getting back to my bodyfat before with less muscleSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 11:40:35 AM   
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Oh, I'm always in favor of heavy lifting.  I lifted plenty heavy during NROL. 

You are a fat bastard though, so I guess it's good that you're cutting.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 11:42:46 AM   
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Oh, I'm always in favor of heavy lifting.  I lifted plenty heavy during NROL. 


looking at the strength routines they look pretty cool, some things look like they're gonna suck though

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 12:12:06 PM   
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I lifted heavy in the hypertrophy routines too.  The strength routines are BRUTAL though.   Be careful not to go overboard on your 1RM's for S-1.

Seriously though, stick to it for a year and stop cutting you skinny bastard.  You're gains will be FAR better then if you keep switching to new routines and you keep cutting/bulking/cutting/bulking...... 

NROL simply won't let you get high body fat.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 12:59:01 PM   
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NROL simply won't let you get high body fat.


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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 1:04:08 PM   
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Don't roll your eyes at me.  I meant what I said.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 1:29:34 PM   
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F the bar, we should just get in Yet's car and head to hightstown, cruise around till we find David, and smack the sh*t out of him.

What do you think?

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 1:43:35 PM   
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I'm down.  I told him what was going to happen for not listening to me.  It's on!!!

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 4:47:34 PM   
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F the bar, we should just get in Yet's car and head to hightstown, cruise around till we find David, and smack the sh*t out of him.

What do you think?


lol ur posts like these crack me upSmile

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/9/2008 5:35:59 PM   
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speaking of NROL, i dont like how he sets it up so i have to take an entire week off every time i get through a rotuine.  i mean seriously, 4 weeks and then a whole week off? then 4 more weeks and another week off.

i've been cutting for 6 week and have 2 left to do but after that i was planning on jumping right into H-1, not taking a week off.

should i be? i really hate taking a week off because i've been regressing for awhile now and i just want to start gaining muscle again! (without much fat obviously lol) 

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/10/2008 10:06:14 AM   
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F the bar, we should just get in Yet's car and head to hightstown, cruise around till we find David, and smack the sh*t out of him.

What do you think?


I would have been down for that if it didn't take me almost 6 hours to get there lol.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/10/2008 11:05:53 AM   
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speaking of NROL, i dont like how he sets it up so i have to take an entire week off every time i get through a rotuine.  i mean seriously, 4 weeks and then a whole week off? then 4 more weeks and another week off.

i've been cutting for 6 week and have 2 left to do but after that i was planning on jumping right into H-1, not taking a week off.

should i be? i really hate taking a week off because i've been regressing for awhile now and i just want to start gaining muscle again! (without much fat obviously lol) 


You gain muscle during the week off.  Recovery is VERY VERY important if you're training intensely enough.  If you're not really training as hard as you could, then you could afford to skip the weeks off.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/10/2008 12:12:32 PM   
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well ur not supposed to go to failure until the later workouts anyway though. i guess the week off is after each program though so u would be hitting failure right before the week off.

i dont know how i'm gonna do the routines when i'm at harvard for 4 weeks over the summer tho

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/10/2008 12:58:58 PM   
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F*** going to failure.  You want to be able to progress for as long as possible, not choose a weight where you go to failure. 

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/10/2008 1:10:05 PM   
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F*** going to failure.  You want to be able to progress for as long as possible, not choose a weight where you go to failure. 


yea u start with a lighter load and ur supposed to be hitting failure near the last workouts

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/12/2008 9:28:18 AM   
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I'll add my two cents in as I see fit.

My NROL structure worked out so that yes by the end of any of the routines, I was damn near if not totally maxed out. If i were to add another 5 lbs on I would not have made my targets.

Now I could pick up where I left off at the start of the next one, maybe drop 5 lbs, but that was it.


Time off.

I skipped or cut short my scheduled rest,  it was not smart of me to do it. I never felt ready for the next round.

But also when doing the Fl routines, I was more taxed then you. I could abaide by the rest, by abiding by the rest your intenstity increases exponentially.

I took a week and a half off, before moving o my current routine, I could not have made a better decision for my training.

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/12/2008 9:50:06 AM   
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F*** going to failure. You want to be able to progress for as long as possible, not choose a weight where you go to failure.


yea u start with a lighter load and ur supposed to be hitting failure near the last workouts


Why are you supposed to? What if you get stronger till you get to the last workouts?

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RE: I don't understand why I even lift anymore - 5/12/2008 11:51:01 AM   
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F*** going to failure. You want to be able to progress for as long as possible, not choose a weight where you go to failure.


yea u start with a lighter load and ur supposed to be hitting failure near the last workouts


Why are you supposed to? What if you get stronger till you get to the last workouts?

then u increase by more.

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