RE: Loose change - 9/11

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ORIGINAL: chrisshepherd

Steel weakens alot before it melts. And how do you know about this certain type of smoke and dust?

I've spent hours studding WTC anc other high rise buildings. Both how they are built and how they would burn. Everything that the towers did makes sense. The outside walls were load barring. Part of those walls were destroyed making the stress that much greater on the rest of the walls weakening them greatly. That and with the inside supports being moved to the center of the building, to allow for more uninteruppted office space caused it to be a fairly weak. It makes sense the way that the buildings pancaked.

There were supports on the outside and inside of it leaving the floors free range to fall with no supports stopping or slowing them. Therefore falling straight down makes sense.

If both jets had hit the empire state building, it probably wouldn't have fallen. It was built using supports and pillars spaced evenly throughout the building. Meaning that the supports are going to be in the way on every floor but its stronger. The outside walls have no load. The building does not rely on the outside to support it like WTC did. If both planes hit the building and it did somehow fall, it would not pancake as there are so many pillars it would topple over. But because the WTC was built without these pillars it made it prone to the type of pancake collapse that happened.

if you just do some research about the way the buildings are built then you'll discover that everything makes sense without the government conspiracy.

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ORIGINAL: StockJockey

hey man...I was kidding, and you misunderstood. I didnt say that to call you out on your degree.....i was making a joke saying that if you've been studying burning skyscrapers im going to report you to the authorities for a possible terrorist link. I thought that it was obvious that's what I was implying. Sorry to offend you.  

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ORIGINAL: coldfire
Alright, you got me. I am Steven Hawking, and bodybuilding is my new hobby. I am sick of physics. I wish I could train, and not just read about others training.

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ORIGINAL: twistedlink
In reality all of us here are playing out this scenario just different goals, we put our bodies through god awful time spent working out and eating to a near perfect point for years to MAYBE reach a goal.

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ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

wikipedia is not real literature.. just so you know.   it's updated constantly. 

so for you to act like something is true just b/c you read it off wikipedia = epic fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queefing   
oh look what i found.  a made up term.  haha

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ORIGINAL: StockJockey

hey man...I was kidding, and you misunderstood. I didnt say that to call you out on your degree.....i was making a joke saying that if you've been studying burning skyscrapers im going to report you to the authorities for a possible terrorist link. I thought that it was obvious that's what I was implying. Sorry to offend you.  

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ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I posted that as a referance to read about it, for people to look it up for themselves and view/read at their discretion.

Im very well aware of wikipedia, it did a good job explaining what the video was, and counter arguements. AND gave links.

There is a DVD and I have watched the dvd, epic fail? go try to be smug somewhere else.

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ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

wikipedia is not real literature.. just so you know.   it's updated constantly. 

so for you to act like something is true just b/c you read it off wikipedia = epic fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queefing   
oh look what i found.  a made up term.  haha

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ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

haha.  no thanks bro.  you just got pissed cause i called you out was all.

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ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

I posted that as a referance to read about it, for people to look it up for themselves and view/read at their discretion.

Im very well aware of wikipedia, it did a good job explaining what the video was, and counter arguements. AND gave links.

There is a DVD and I have watched the dvd, epic fail? go try to be smug somewhere else.

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ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

wikipedia is not real literature.. just so you know.   it's updated constantly. 

so for you to act like something is true just b/c you read it off wikipedia = epic fail

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queefing   
oh look what i found.  a made up term.  haha

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ORIGINAL: shadow of a doubt

Has anyone heard of a false flag operation? The fact of the matter is this is exactly what happened on September 11th.  Much the same happened in the bombing of Pearl Harbor and the Gulf of Tonkin. False flag operations refer to espionage or covert actions taken by ones government made to seem like the work of another. I have just recently signed up to this board although I have been an avid reader, voyeur, you could say. I find it intriguing when the normal working class fellow brings up the thought that perhaps the events of September 11th really didn't happen the way we all thought. There is always another fellow who down plays them as conspiracy theorists and wack jobs. One must remember, there is no such thing as a conspiracy theory, only how one side can twist the facts to create an outcome. Just like JFK, everyone remembers where they were that day. But hindsights always 20/20, we never understand where all the information we were spoon fed came from. Let us remember, our media outlets are just as guilty as those who carried out the operations. Now ask yourself this question...If we believe the governments version that it was 19 hi-jackers from Saudi Arabia, then why are many of them still alive today? Trust me, research your facts. Why is it that we went into Afghanistan and rooted out the Taliban, yet we have left it in shambles, as an opium drug trade? Remember the Sandinistas in the Iran-Contras? Probably not...many of you are too young or too caught up in your daily lives to understand that this is the same regurgitation of years past. I don't blame you either...perhaps if i wasn't so infactuated with the truth I would be in the same spot. My one overall point to this post is that to find the truth in the world these days is to FOLLOW THE MONEY. Yes, money. Like the Dutch author Janwillem can de Wetering said - "Greed is a fat demon with a small mouth and whatever you feed it is never enough." Now you may ask, why would our own government kill 3,000+ of its own citizens. Then I would ask you, Who benifits in a war between the US and various parts of the Middle East. Nevermind looking at perticulars, such as melting points of steel, yadda yadda yadda. There has never been a steel structure brought down by a plane crash within 45 minutes and blamed on melting points in the history of the world. I dare you to disclaim that. The WTC would have stood the test of time. All I ask of those who read this, is to take a look at who our only allie is in the part of the world we are destroying...look at who really runs this country...research, investigate...piece it together...wake from your slumber...there is a hand that controls the wheel...it's very plane to see... 

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ORIGINAL: StockJockey

hey man...I was kidding, and you misunderstood. I didnt say that to call you out on your degree.....i was making a joke saying that if you've been studying burning skyscrapers im going to report you to the authorities for a possible terrorist link. I thought that it was obvious that's what I was implying. Sorry to offend you.  

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original:Jane

I like boobs. Not like big messy boobs that pour out the bra when they are unleashed. Not small boobs either. Not fake ones either. A full C cup.

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original:Jane

WOW! I am honored! I am finally, FINALLY in someone's sig. Twisted of all people.
Boobs=power.

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ORIGINAL: chrisshepherd

Well its nice to see new members! Especially those named "shadow of a doubt" in a thread talking about a conspiracy theory.

Well you might be right about the 45 minutes thing, but guess what... no other building that has been hit with a jumbo jet full of jet fuel was built like that.

Tell me this, was roswell a cover up to? what money did we score out of that deal? What about JFK how much money did we make off of killing one of the most popular presidents in history? If you haven't noticed the US is trillions of dollars in debt now. Who made money there? Are you going to say 'the oil companies'? cause that **** is weak. 

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ORIGINAL: coldfire
Alright, you got me. I am Steven Hawking, and bodybuilding is my new hobby. I am sick of physics. I wish I could train, and not just read about others training.

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ORIGINAL: twistedlink
In reality all of us here are playing out this scenario just different goals, we put our bodies through god awful time spent working out and eating to a near perfect point for years to MAYBE reach a goal.

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ORIGINAL: shadow of a doubt

Good Morning Chris...scrolling through the threads, I knew that you would be intrigued by my post. Like I said, I've been an avid reader of this forum for quite some time...followed some of the points you have made in the past and so on. I think you're missing the over all point to my post...conspiracy theories do not exist whatsoever. You bring up issue such as Roswell...I can go on and on about my theories of that even, and trust me it has nothing to do with aliens from mars or flying saucers. That issue is much to an extent part of a much larger scale. You can pick certain events that happen in global history, but until you piece them together and locate the same common denomenator you don't have much more than random events. You bring up JFK, whom I will agree with you, the very best president our country has had in the last 50 years. I've done extensive research on his life, beginnings, work in his short time in office, and his ultimate assassination. I believe that at the time he was killed that's when this country changed down the road we have been on for the past 40 or so years. You must understand that the one thing to gain from assassinating JFK, a man who understood that change was needed, was that nothing was going to change at all. Once out of the picture, we were able to begin a long strunge out war in Vietnam, a place JFK never wanted to go. Our greatest threat to safety, peace, and justice is the Military Industrial Complex. As long as bombs and built and dropped, the blood flows, the money keeps flowing into the hands of who control the strings. You bring up the point that the US is in a 3+ trillion dollar debt, mostly in the pocket of China, who at any point could say pay up and then it would be a total economic collapse. Understand who gains from the US bogged down into economic depression, endless war. Please do not be naive into thinking that our top government officials work for us, while at the same time having dual-citizenship with another particular Middle Eastern country. Please investigate; that is all I ask. The books, the plans to the road we've been going down currently were all written back in the late 80's. Find out who the most powerful people, the most powerful lobbies, the most powerful military ideologists are. Piece all the things you say in your posts together, i know it's cliche, but think outside the box. Never think that something cannot be...is it so hard to believe that what you see is not really what is happening...Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain....