There are not studies of every anabolic study listed in the VIDA book, that does not mean that they are not steroids.
The fact that there are no double blind studies proves it.
PEOPLE....PEOPLES lets not insult one another & just try and find out what going on....NAV is just telling us his experience & it's just him telling his side....it's up to us to believe him or not!!!!
Now, just because there aren't any double blind studies about it, doesn't mean it doesn't happen!!!! LJust like your statement with the VIDA book....after all, it not all scientific studies are double blind.
And as far as politics on these types of things and them being legal (not that it will matter now); we should try and learn more about things before jumping into them; however, this is not the case, there are too many ignorant people out there that don't know any better and spoil it for everone else that know better!!!! It just irritates me to hear and see lawsuites left and right for the stupid decisions that people make!!!! N.E. ways>>>> Ultimately, we are the ones that make the final decision, specially when it comes to building our bodies ....people should try to learn more about their bodies and not push it way out to their limits (although doing so may yield great benefits, let us not forget that it may also yeild potential hazards).... Bodybuilding does not only mean pushing your body to the limit, it also means being smart (knowledgeable about many things; i.e. excercises, diet, limits)....so we should keep our EGO's in check!!!!
So lets keep going with this board.... I would like to learn more about this topic.... sorry, but i have no experience on these what so ever.... never tried them.... but i would be interested in knowing how long does it take for the body to shutdown and at what type of dosing!!!!
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