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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/14/2008 5:17:17 PM
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twistedlink
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Strength is not just a powerlifting thing. There's a lot more to being strong then just being able to put up big numbers in the big 3. Strength = healthy body. Your joints, bones, tendons, and ligaments are better protected by the surrounding muscle. You become faster and more athletic all around. You don't "age" as quickly (as far as natural muscle degeneration goes - the old "use it or lose it" principle). You look better. The list goes on....
It makes no sense to me why someone wouldn't want to be strong. Why wouldn't everyone want to have the ablity to use all the muscles in their body to perform lifes' daily activities more easily?
Basically a stronger body should be everyone's goal on here, even if your only goal is to look better. Train for strength, and I guarantee you that your physique will improve on a daily basis.
I really really REALLY love this post.
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I like boobs. Not like big messy boobs that pour out the bra when they are unleashed. Not small boobs either. Not fake ones either. A full C cup.
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WOW! I am honored! I am finally, FINALLY in someone's sig. Twisted of all people.
Boobs=power.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/14/2008 5:20:32 PM
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On the other hand, if I can disagree with myself for a little bit... A lot of neophytes can use my argument as an excuse to skip squats and deadlifts and curl their little brains out. And everyone knows that big, heavy, compound movements are the best thing for building mass.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/14/2008 5:23:42 PM
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twistedlink
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On the other hand, if I can disagree with myself for a little bit... A lot of neophytes can use my argument as an excuse to skip squats and deadlifts and curl their little brains out. And everyone knows that big, heavy, compound movements are the best thing for building mass.
hehe, which is why i love briheads post so much.
Train like a powerlifter, eat like a bodybuilder.
You will look awesome.
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original:Jane
I like boobs. Not like big messy boobs that pour out the bra when they are unleashed. Not small boobs either. Not fake ones either. A full C cup.
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original:Jane
WOW! I am honored! I am finally, FINALLY in someone's sig. Twisted of all people.
Boobs=power.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/14/2008 5:31:03 PM
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Kouch
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as a fighter i would be more inclined to choose strength over size. which i do. but i think i person can be big and strong simultaniously.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/18/2008 12:16:00 PM
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TheSilverFox
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i'm gonna put it this way..
I care about size 2/3rds... or 66.6 %
and strength 1/3rd... 33.3 %
I like both, and they are both very important, but I just LOVE the compliments I receive from de ladiez about ma big armmmmmmmms 
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24 yrs old (currently bulking and using HST)
December 2007 181 lbs.
Current weight : 202.4 lbs
32 in" waist
10.5% body fat - Jan 2008
Current BF : 13%
16.5 in' bicep
305 lb. max bench (in Jan. 08)
300 lb. max bench (on April 15th, 2008)
200 lb. Barbell Overhead press 1 rep max (April 2008)
Deadlift max = 275 lbs (april 15, 2008)
Curved barbell Curl max = 130 lbs. (April 15, 2008)
max squat = I don't know.. injured myself
Supplements
Sweet Potato Smoothie daily
Musclemilk - cytogainer (gots to get ma' carbs)
Whey protein smoothie in the A.M. (peanut butter, milk, whey, oatmeal = yum)
Fish oil, vit. c, multivitamin
Working out is 90% mental... 10% physical
It's not quantity, it's quality.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/19/2008 8:17:35 AM
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David1991
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i dont think most girls would care, or even know how strong the guy is. i helped my friend (girl) move a piano out of her house and she was like "damn david ur stronger than u look" (i think i mentioned this in the past). but its not like that mattered much, i mean i wish i looked stronger instead.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/19/2008 8:18:37 AM
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PearlJammer919
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For me, I'm going to go in a slightly different direction. I really dont have anymore inclination to get any bigger essentially, even thought I understand that through lifting it will happen and it's outta my control. For the strength, it's only for the ego really, which I stand for the "it's not what you lift, it's how you lift it." So I'd rather being doing 10 clean slow reps of 180 on the bench, then dying on 4 dirty reps of 225 on the bench. What I train for, I guess you call it definition. If I remained the size I am now, and was shredded to the core, I would be satisfied. However, I will get bigger because it comes with the territory, so this paradoxical post is essentially saying that I train for neither. I care most about what the mirror reflects, and the perception of others towards me.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 1/20/2008 5:27:43 PM
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TheSilverFox
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ORIGINAL: PearlJammer919
For me, I'm going to go in a slightly different direction. I really dont have anymore inclination to get any bigger essentially, even thought I understand that through lifting it will happen and it's outta my control. For the strength, it's only for the ego really, which I stand for the "it's not what you lift, it's how you lift it." So I'd rather being doing 10 clean slow reps of 180 on the bench, then dying on 4 dirty reps of 225 on the bench. What I train for, I guess you call it definition. If I remained the size I am now, and was shredded to the core, I would be satisfied. However, I will get bigger because it comes with the territory, so this paradoxical post is essentially saying that I train for neither. I care most about what the mirror reflects, and the perception of others towards me.
agree with this completely...
and twistedlink.. the 0.1% leftover care has to do with the girth in me pantalones muahahha.
wise man once told me... the only reason to do curls... is for the girls...
so now when i'm doin' bi's, i just tellmyself "curls for the girls".. they really do like big hard arms. i don't know why, but i don't care... i just give them what they want haha
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--J
24 yrs old (currently bulking and using HST)
December 2007 181 lbs.
Current weight : 202.4 lbs
32 in" waist
10.5% body fat - Jan 2008
Current BF : 13%
16.5 in' bicep
305 lb. max bench (in Jan. 08)
300 lb. max bench (on April 15th, 2008)
200 lb. Barbell Overhead press 1 rep max (April 2008)
Deadlift max = 275 lbs (april 15, 2008)
Curved barbell Curl max = 130 lbs. (April 15, 2008)
max squat = I don't know.. injured myself
Supplements
Sweet Potato Smoothie daily
Musclemilk - cytogainer (gots to get ma' carbs)
Whey protein smoothie in the A.M. (peanut butter, milk, whey, oatmeal = yum)
Fish oil, vit. c, multivitamin
Working out is 90% mental... 10% physical
It's not quantity, it's quality.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 9:19:37 AM
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Leg_Beast
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You're not going to be able to bench 400 pounds and still look really weak. You will still look big or at least strong. Basically with strength comes at least some size.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 10:47:09 AM
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coldfire
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ORIGINAL: brihead301
Strength is not just a powerlifting thing. There's a lot more to being strong then just being able to put up big numbers in the big 3. Strength = healthy body. Your joints, bones, tendons, and ligaments are better protected by the surrounding muscle. You become faster and more athletic all around. You don't "age" as quickly (as far as natural muscle degeneration goes - the old "use it or lose it" principle). You look better. The list goes on....
It makes no sense to me why someone wouldn't want to be strong. Why wouldn't everyone want to have the ablity to use all the muscles in their body to perform lifes' daily activities more easily?
Basically a stronger body should be everyone's goal on here, even if your only goal is to look better. Train for strength, and I guarantee you that your physique will improve on a daily basis.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 10:50:21 AM
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David1991
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coldfire whats ur height, weight, and bf%? and maxes on the main 3 if u know them
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 11:14:47 AM
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Yet
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..Is that a joke David?
Coldfire can't workout, he's Steven Hawkings.
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Alright, you got me. I am Steven Hawking, and bodybuilding is my new hobby. I am sick of physics. I wish I could train, and not just read about others training.
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ORIGINAL: twistedlink
In reality all of us here are playing out this scenario just different goals, we put our bodies through god awful time spent working out and eating to a near perfect point for years to MAYBE reach a goal.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 12:32:49 PM
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coldfire
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ORIGINAL: David1991
coldfire whats ur height, weight, and bf%? and maxes on the main 3 if u know them
I am 212lbs, not sure about the BF%, around 12-13%. I don't max out usually, but squat 315 for 5x5, deadlift 355x5 and I don't bench, but l did bench 300lbs for 1 rep.
Forgot the height: 5'10".
< Message edited by coldfire -- 3/21/2008 12:41:34 PM >
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 12:58:50 PM
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David1991
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thats some pretty respectable stats. how long have u lifted and why don't u bench?
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 1:11:09 PM
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Yet
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thats some pretty respectable stats. how long have u lifted and why don't u bench?
They're all made up David. He's Steven Hawkings I'm telling you. That's why he's always going on about space travel, and physics, and all that.
I'm on to your games Hawkings.
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ORIGINAL: coldfire
Alright, you got me. I am Steven Hawking, and bodybuilding is my new hobby. I am sick of physics. I wish I could train, and not just read about others training.
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ORIGINAL: twistedlink
In reality all of us here are playing out this scenario just different goals, we put our bodies through god awful time spent working out and eating to a near perfect point for years to MAYBE reach a goal.
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RE: Do you care more about size or strength? - 3/21/2008 1:15:37 PM
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David1991
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ORIGINAL: Yet
They're all made up David. He's Steven Hawkings I'm telling you. That's why he's always going on about space travel, and physics, and all that.
hmm, guess i missed those posts
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