What Supplement should I be using.

I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks

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I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks

Diet is 60%, training is 30%, and supplementation is 10% of progress... So, you need to get the higher percentages down first... and a lot of ppl consider pro hormones to be steroids... or at least precursors to them... 

How old are you? I can't really recommend much more then creatine and protein without knowing how old you are.

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ORIGINAL: c.j.dono

I'm Trying to do what ever it takes to get big but not the roid way. What supplements, pro hormones or any should I be using. I'm looking for the MAX preformence. I use choc whay right now, the taste is not so great and I also use creatine. If you could help thanks

Diet is 60%, training is 30%, and supplementation is 10% of progress... So, you need to get the higher percentages down first... and a lot of ppl consider pro hormones to be steroids... or at least precursors to them... 

But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.

I'm 17.

ORIGINAL: c.j.dono

I'm 17.

 
Here's what I would do:
Get yourself some bulk citrulline malate, arginine akg, beta alanine, caffeine, and micronized mono.
Then make your own preworkout drinks. If you get it in bulk it'll last you a long time and with this combo you'll get killer pumps and good strength increases. Maybe throw in some bcaas in there if you're cutting.
 
Other then that just use a good whey + oats after workouts and maybe casein before bed.
 
All you really need at 17 is lots of food though.
 
 

ORIGINAL: c.j.dono
But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.

lol (@ the incorrect rhetorical question u asked)... they may... prohormones are a relatively new thing... they can have the same immediate side effects, so who's to say they dont have the same long-term sides?  Since they're new, we dont know what will be happening to the ppl taking them later down the road...

and at 17, you're definitely too young to be using them anyways.

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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.

 
Ohh I missed this post. Prohormones have the same side effects as steroids, they just need to be converted but the end result is the same. And there aren't really many prohormones on the market anymore anyway, most are steroids.
 
But whatever I gave you advice on what you can take at your age, but you can take whatever you want it's your body. Just don't come crying back because you've grown a set of tits and need to take viagra to get a hard on.

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But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.

Ohh I missed this post. Prohormones have the same side effects as steroids, they just need to be converted but the end result is the same. And there aren't really many prohormones on the market anymore anyway, most are steroids.

But whatever I gave you advice on what you can take at your age, but you can take whatever you want it's your body. Just don't come crying back because you've grown a set of tits and need to take viagra to get a hard on.

Well thanks I didn't look in to anything about pro hormones, But Thanks but kinda of sick of whay (the taste) Would muscle milk be better in taste/proformence?

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ORIGINAL: c.j.dono
But that 10% makes a huge differnts, And yeah your right about that but does it still have the long term side effects? no.

lol (@ the incorrect rhetorical question u asked)... they may... prohormones are a relatively new thing... they can have the same immediate side effects, so who's to say they dont have the same long-term sides?  Since they're new, we dont know what will be happening to the ppl taking them later down the road...

and at 17, you're definitely too young to be using them anyways.

Well I'm sorry  I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.

use the whey pre and post workout... musclemilk is a casein protein and should be used before bed

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Any type of supplement that is like whay that tastes good, and dont whay and musle milk do the same thing?

ORIGINAL: c.j.dono
Well I'm sorry  I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.

 
They may not, but just think about it... 1) they are precursors to steroids... 2) They have the same short term side effects... they more than likely have the same long term sides.. it just makes sense...
 
And muscle milk has casein protein, which is a slow-digesting protein, whereas whey is a fast-digesting protein.

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Well I'm sorry  I didn't know but I'm new And I didnt know... and hey who knows they might not have the same side effect never know it's still knew. But I'll still stick to the basic's, diet, and workout.

They may not, but just think about it... 1) they are precursors to steroids... 2) They have the same short term side effects... they more than likely have the same long term sides.. it just makes sense...

And muscle milk has casein protein, which is a slow-digesting protein, whereas whey is a fast-digesting protein.

 
Yeah I'know gives me the runs... The taste is REALLY BAD. 

well they do sort of....the musclemilk breaks down really slow, so its optimal for bedtime use. the whey breaks down very quickley and gets to your muscles fast, so it is the best type of protein to use post workout

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