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RE: full body training - 1/16/2008 1:05:51 PM   
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hey.. i just read over your entire journal here pretty much, and you're making some serious gains. 

I'm thinking about starting HST, and am impressed with how you've done.

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RE: full body training - 1/16/2008 4:21:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: edrice2

im working towards it. right now im eating oatmeal at breakfast and then pwo a banana, rest of the day no carb sources...works out to be just under 100g on non-workout and 120g on workout...this is including fiber from nuts and stuff tho, subtrat another 30 or so fiber. i started last wednseday, got side tracked the first 2 days back at school, but monday got back on it.

although my carbs arent low enough to get into ketosis yet, im sort of trying out lower carbs first then all i would need to do is cut the oatmeal and banana and id be good to go. the first few days i got some quality diarrhea but that has stopped. i actually lost 3.5 lbs the first two days, just from water weight which was a change haha...i definitely noticed that i dont feel bloated after eating either, probably a lot because its less quantity of food, since denser calorically. enery levels arent really effected positively or negatively.

when you were on keto, what was your pwo shake/meal? i know people use smarties or sweet tarts for dextrose, any other ideas you have?

nahh my post workout meal was 8 oz red meat,8 oz green salad,1 tbsp olive oil and vinegar i didnt have any kind of carbs while i was doing this diet(only carbs were from nuts ,salads,pb)im gonna make a journal next week with a similar diet(bulking)u can check it out later on

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RE: full body training - 1/16/2008 9:39:38 PM   
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silverfox-thanks, i appreciate it. i havent tried hst out yet, but done mainly full body or upper/lower splits in the last few months. i like them a lot, i was able to get consistent gains for awhile over christmas break, im afraid back at school they will slow some as my activity levels are much higher and sleep a little less. i would say try hst out, i see alot of good results from it

super saiyan-sounds good. im feeling no energy lack at all, so im thinking i will start keto soon, like i said its really just a matter of replacing my oatmal and pwo banana, seems simple enough. i could get used to the diet actually, im pretty into my nuts, peant butter, cheese, meat and veggies actually...been whipping up a pretty good, olive oil chicken the last few days, good times...currently my calories are at like 3100 ish, which was actually a slight increase from my past 50% carb diet, whihc was 2850ish, tho activity levels were increased too. despite the calorie difference, ive actually gotten a bit leaner as well. ill check out your journal, im curious to your diet and getting more ideas about keto, thanks by the way

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RE: full body training - 1/19/2008 3:58:10 PM   
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so this week has been scattered and busy with school and all that good stuff, havent missed any workouts or meals but they havent been great either. im going to be going back to  afull body outine starting monday, 3 days a week.,..or perhaps also a day where i just deadlift and do core work.

ive started adding some cardio after working out, partially becaus ei just want to get into really good shape, not necesarrily to lose weight...tho i have been losing bf, which is nice

i am really liking a high fat diet. some simple, beautiful concotions ive made up:

4 whole eggs
a lot of shredded cheese
a heap of guacamole
hot sauce

1-2 tbsp olive oil
chicken breast
mushrooms
asparagus

yum

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RE: full body training - 1/19/2008 4:34:47 PM   
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llooking good dont forget to add the fiber...

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RE: full body training - 1/21/2008 10:14:36 PM   
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im going to be doing 2 full body days then an upper and a lower day, so 4 total per week.

full body a today
squats: 135 3X8
db bench: 50's 3X8
oh press: 72.5 3X8
pullups: 3X5
abs 35 3X12

this is restarting my rep ranges and starting low weight so i can be sure to be able to apply progressive overload for awhile. squats are atg, not just below parallel anymore

my next two workouts are lower then upper, then full body b...tomorrows off

diet is good, fiber shouldnt be a worry im eating enough between veggies and nuts/pb etc. im becoming leaner which is nice. still feeling good energy, and still really like eating low carb. im contemplating a carb cycle in the near future, not sure yet.


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RE: full body training - 1/23/2008 6:42:11 PM   
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lower body today
squats: 145 3X8
sldl: 115 3X8
leg press: 360 3X8
calf raises: 360 2X8
abs: 35 2X12
obliques: 35 2X12

felt good, squats are getting much better, i think going super low is working well. diet is good, feeling no energy issues still, tomorrows upper body then rest and full body b

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RE: full body training - 1/24/2008 11:26:42 AM   
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 upper body

db bench: 52.5s 3X8
db rows: 65's 3X8
shoulder press: 35's 3X8
dips: 2X8
pullups: 2X5

felt good, nothing major still low in my lifts so im comfortably improving each time. diet good, basically just eating a lot of fat and protein, its getting me a little leaner and yet to compromise energy or strength much, sort of experimenting more than anything. tomorrow off then full body b

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RE: full body training - 1/26/2008 3:56:47 PM   
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full body b

deadlifts: 205 3X8
oh press: 75 3X8
incline: 40s 3X8
pullups: 3X6
leg press: 370 3X8

then 10 minute cardio after

feeling good, did shoulders before incline and felt clear difference and might keep it that way actually, still in lower weight ranges so this was a fairly easy workout, will be getting harder tho soon

monday full body a

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RE: full body training - 1/28/2008 6:18:54 PM   
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full body a

squats: 150 3X8
oh press: 80 3X8
bench: 55's X7,5
dips: 1X10
pullups: 3X7

did ohp before bench but felt it big time today, so i might alternate dips in on days i do ohp first cause that seems to hit my pecs better actually. felt good tho, squats are good. nothing major, diets good, starting to get 5th ab haha, never can get that 6th tho. havent weighed in awhile, probably do that tomorrow

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RE: full body training - 1/30/2008 1:35:50 PM   
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decided to cut that upper lowe rand just do 3 full bodys

squats: 155 3X8
incline: 47.5's 3X8
db rows: 60's 3X8
pullups: 7,6
dips: 10

ive added carbs back in my diet, i just dont think id get good enough strnegth gains without them, tho my energy was fine i dont think that i can push myself as much, so back to carbs to continue gaining weight and strength...good to kknow that i can cut them out to trim up lter tho, since thats what it did

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RE: full body training - 1/30/2008 3:51:10 PM   
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hey bro r u serious????  today is my 9th day doing the anabolic diet and strengh is awesome!!!! im not doing a journal anymore so if u want to know anything pm if u want
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RE: full body training - 1/30/2008 9:46:59 PM   
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i will most certainly be coming back to a keto diet for cutting, i made some good fat loss progress pretty quick with a lot of calories as well, around 3100. the thing is that i still need to get a lot of raw size, and i think a moderate carb diet would be a better way to get there, then cutting carbs out to lean out and maintain somewhere in between.

i had fine energy in terms of everything outside of workouts, and even in workout, but my actual strnegth has been slipping. im not tired or anything, but im not making strength increases either.

i also enjoyed the diet a lot, and feeling no bloating or anyhting, etc.  i might also cycle between the two or something.

took a few pics today too ill throw up here 



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RE: full body training - 1/30/2008 9:48:34 PM   
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RE: full body training - 2/2/2008 2:47:16 PM   
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full body b
deadlifts: 225 3X8
bench: 55's 3X8
pullups: 2X8, 7
db press: 40s 3X8
db rows: 60s 3X8

felt good, continuing to do full body workouts every other day basically, nothing much else shoudlers felt good esp and chest

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RE: full body training - 2/4/2008 2:39:31 PM   
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full body a
squats: 165 3X8
bench: 55s 3X8
oh press: 80 2X8, 1X7
pulllups: 8,7,6
abs: 35 2X12

decided to really bullk up thru at least feb and unsure of march as of now, ill play it by ear. im basically just eating a lot of food, ibb style haha. after adding carbs back in ive been able to gain all the weighthat i lost back and then a bit, tho i think its bloating. this morning was 154.5, im thinking itl be more like 152 tomorrow, i was pretty bloated more so than normal. i have to say, energy is clearly better with carbs, tho i wouldnt say it lacks that much w o them, but theres a notable difference as well. tomorrows off then wed back at it

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RE: full body training - 2/4/2008 4:34:59 PM   
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im not even gonna bother readin all this!!! 

omg u guys have no problem typeing your a**es off!!Smile

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RE: full body training - 2/6/2008 4:04:57 PM   
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upper body

bench: 55's 3X8
incline: 45's 3X8
db rows: 65's 3X8
pullups: 8,7,6

felt good, good form and control, tomrows lower body

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RE: full body training - 2/11/2008 10:23:37 PM   
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well ive been sick,got through wednesdays good but theursday felt like ass so i called it a day after squats and took fri sat sun off.

im also going back to low carbs, which i still might cycle since thats what ive just done basically and liked it. ive noticed that theres like a day or two where i could literally eat an assload of food and not gain fat but just fill back out, which was strange then i started to gain a bit of fat, so im gunna tone that down next time i go higher carbs. but regardless, its high fat right now.

im also mixing up my routine a bit, going to a 4 day split for a bit to mix things up. ive gotten great results on upper lower when i was sedentary over break and could iterally eat and lift but now that im more active wlaking and what not my recovery time is less, so that im not really seeing strength gains. just doing chest/tris, back/bis, legs, shoulders/core for a few weeks

chest/tris
bench: 55's 3X8
incline: 47.5's X8, 2X6
incline flyes: 35's 3X8
lying tri ext: 55's 3X8
dips: 8,6
squats: 135 X8

i lied, im actually going to be squattng on every day for a set as warmup and progressively increase that (so next time 145, etc.), its unrelated to my leg day but just cause i like doing them haha

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RE: full body training - 2/13/2008 3:15:39 PM   
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deadlifts: 135 X8, 185 X8, 225 3X5
pullups: 8, 2X6
db rows: 70's 3X5 
db curls: 25's 3X8

focusing a lot on perfect form, pullups felt drained but rows felt good so who knows, but overall good except for a split callace on my right hand that started bleeding and being pesky, aso did some cardio after, im working that up

diet is still good, didnt weigh today will tomorrow tho. im losing bodyfat tho visibly so thats good. tomorrow is shoulders/abs


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