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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/8/2007 2:00:07 PM   
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i'm pesimistik about everything

so for 5'11 165 pounds 1 month till 15 is 255 pound bench max 1 rep good or bad (this was for football so i didn't have any pre's in me)


Well, I'm 5'9.5" 185 lbs 6% bf 19 yrs oldand I failed to bench 250 lbs, so yeah, if you really did bench that, then that is impressive.

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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


So basically, you're saying he has the potential to get the world record?
It looks that way. But he will have to compete in that fed and under their rules.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/8/2007 2:02:05 PM   
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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.


no way. ur saying the 15yr old lifting record of all is 230 pounds for 165lb. person. and this guy is saying he's 14 and his is 255lb.??? unless we have pretty much the strongest 14yr. old in the country on here thats not right.
It  is drug tested and raw. Considering it is a new fed I'm sure those records will not last long so set them while they are still in reach.


http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/records/World/World%20Bench%20Press%20Records.pdf

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/8/2007 2:07:24 PM   
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You have to remember this is the internet and much of what you read here is exagerated. The 100% rawpowerlifting WW for 165lbs at 15 is 230 so you have a great max.

how i know 15 year olds that are like 150 lb. that bench 225 that isnt close to a record are you sure the wr for benching is 230 for 165 lb. division?im suprised it isnt like 400...
This is just one of many power lifting federations. It is raw ( no bench shirts and drug tested). Remember, it is a compatition lift not a gym bench so it is much harder.



http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/records/World/World%20Bench%20Press%20Records.pdf

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/8/2007 3:05:06 PM   
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Man I am weak in this weight class.. I had a much better record in the 180lb weight class... Then again I am sure most of those guys are not my height.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/8/2007 3:08:11 PM   
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Wait dude thats By age... I know a 180lber in my gym who is pushing over world record weight then.. And I am only 50lbs under world record weight...


There are so many people I know stronger then those figures... I mean if thats going by age and weight... It looks like it is... Those are not very good figured bro...


Unless that is by competition lift your talking about them leaving the weight on their chest keeping their back flat and getting a perfect rep. Then thats alot of weight. But I still know people stronger.. I have seen a 180lb man put up 405... Have also seen a 220lb man rep 405 x 10... My gym must be full of freaks. Smile

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 7:23:40 AM   
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45 x 2 = 90
35 x 2 = 70
25 x 2 = 50

90 + 70 + 50 = 210

Now unless im wrong somehow, it equals 210.
Unless you used a 45lb bar.


i just figured everbody would automatically add in the 45 lbs bar it would be a little diffucult with EZ bar i would imagine

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 9:06:56 AM   
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Wait dude thats By age... I know a 180lber in my gym who is pushing over world record weight then.. And I am only 50lbs under world record weight...


There are so many people I know stronger then those figures... I mean if thats going by age and weight... It looks like it is... Those are not very good figured bro...


Unless that is by competition lift your talking about them leaving the weight on their chest keeping their back flat and getting a perfect rep. Then thats alot of weight. But I still know people stronger.. I have seen a 180lb man put up 405... Have also seen a 220lb man rep 405 x 10... My gym must be full of freaks. Smile


The records I posted are drug free, I'm sure some of the guys in your gym are on steroids......405x10 is a steroid bench for sure. The raw non-drug tested world record for 220lbs is 582lbs set by Mike Macdonald.


Here is a link to the all time raw non-drug testsd records for bench


http://www.powerliftingwatch.com/records/raw-bench-press


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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 9:41:56 AM   
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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 1:10:07 PM   
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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?


No 19 year old at 220 is raw benching 405x10 naturally or with steroids . If he is post a link to his natural raw world record plaese. By the way no teenager at 220 or less has benched over 500 raw even with steroids, and 405x10 is  over 500, probably 525-540.


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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 1:21:32 PM   
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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?


No 19 year old at 220 is raw benching 405x10 naturally or with steroids . If he is post a link to his natural raw world record plaese. By the way no teenager at 220 or less has benched over 500 raw even with steroids, and 405x10 is over 500, probably 525-540.




Your not taking height into consideration bro... at 5'9 220 is rather beastly.. I am not making an opinion on this.. I am just telling you what I have seen. if I did not see it I may not believe it either... But I am not sure if he puts up 500lbs.. I have never seen him max out.



You should check out youtube alot more too.. there are plenty of young guys putting up 405 at low weights 175lbs - 185lbs.. I don't care what your world record scores say there are people out there that do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_iJfxcxAo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1WRiQ3Q_T0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTGjaFxenQM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc13IdhbGcU&mode=related&search=

Some of those guys were short but not one of them being in the 240 weight range. You can't just say well they must be on steroids thats all I ever hear from you. Just because you can't do something there is no reason to start boastin about telling everyone else its impossible. There are some big bench numbers going up all over the place.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 1:26:56 PM   
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my gym has a national record holder for bench press.  The kid is 14-15, weighed 232, drug free and raw, and did 285.  There is a sign saying that he was the new national record holder

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 2:21:06 PM   
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my gym has a national record holder for bench press. The kid is 14-15, weighed 232, drug free and raw, and did 285. There is a sign saying that he was the new national record holder


Thats impressive for his age but not for his weight... thats only 60lbs more then he weighs...

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 5:49:35 PM   
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my gym has a national record holder for bench press. The kid is 14-15, weighed 232, drug free and raw, and did 285. There is a sign saying that he was the new national record holder


Thats impressive for his age but not for his weight... thats only 60lbs more then he weighs...

agree thats amazing for his age but he sounds really fat. maybe he should try cutting because on a football field anyone with amazing strong muscles and a 7 second 40 get blown away...same with most sports.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 7:56:06 PM   
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No dude... he is a young manager at my gym called inshape... everyone knows of him and he is drug free he is only 19 years old.. I assure you there are people out there way higher then those records... I can take a video if you really want to see, id feel kind of weird asking him though and its rare to find him pressing in the evenings.

I may be able to find something about him online although I doubt it because he is not into power lifting... he is just a young body builder.



You can talk to rippedchick because she also knows som drug free guys in her gym that will break those records at her age..

there are soo many people that don't compete who are so damn strong.



Oh and one more thing.. I am not sure if you can really say drug free... any of those guys could have used steroids at one point in time in their life and maintained the strength... Lets say they did this competition 1 - 2 years later but juiced for 2 years are they still considered drug free? You see what I am getting at?


No 19 year old at 220 is raw benching 405x10 naturally or with steroids . If he is post a link to his natural raw world record plaese. By the way no teenager at 220 or less has benched over 500 raw even with steroids, and 405x10 is over 500, probably 525-540.




Your not taking height into consideration bro... at 5'9 220 is rather beastly.. I am not making an opinion on this.. I am just telling you what I have seen. if I did not see it I may not believe it either... But I am not sure if he puts up 500lbs.. I have never seen him max out.



You should check out youtube alot more too.. there are plenty of young guys putting up 405 at low weights 175lbs - 185lbs.. I don't care what your world record scores say there are people out there that do it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63_iJfxcxAo&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1WRiQ3Q_T0&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWovCl54638&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTGjaFxenQM&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc13IdhbGcU&mode=related&search=

Some of those guys were short but not one of them being in the 240 weight range. You can't just say well they must be on steroids thats all I ever hear from you. Just because you can't do something there is no reason to start boastin about telling everyone else its impossible. There are some big bench numbers going up all over the place.


First off  you said a teen who was natural ( like you would even know) benched 405x10......not x1. Do the math 405 x10 is a big difference from x1.

As for you tuube, who cares, how do we know what they weigh, or what the age of these people are. Bottom line is you do not read before you post. I never said a 405 bench was a big deal....it is not. Now a 600lb raw bench is impressive.

A 400 bench is nothing, I benched 400 at 19 at 218, I had several friends bench it as well who were under 200lbs. I benched 545 raw as an adult at 260lbs.......but so what, the world record was 650 at the time in the 275 class.

You seem to have to make this personal so I will paly along. You are not even close to what I have done in competition so keep your foolish opinions to yourself....until you grow up and actually do something.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/9/2007 8:02:57 PM   
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my gym has a national record holder for bench press.  The kid is 14-15, weighed 232, drug free and raw, and did 285.  There is a sign saying that he was the new national record holder
290lbs in the 242lb class  at 14-15 set by Donavan Taylor is the  raw natural World record. But your friend might have a record in another federation.

http://www.rawpowerlifting.com/records/World/World%20Bench%20Press%20Records.pdf

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/10/2007 10:11:50 AM   
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Quiet guys...who cares about who has the longest dick anyways ?

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/10/2007 1:40:08 PM   
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Quiet guys...who cares about who has the longest dick anyways ?


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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/10/2007 9:06:03 PM   
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Quiet guys...who cares about who has the longest dick anyways ?

lol just a bit random.but there is no reason to fite we all know who it is.

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/10/2007 10:28:20 PM   
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Quiet guys...who cares about who has the longest dick anyways ?


Yeah, girth is what matters anyways...gese. jkSmile

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RE: my new max good or bad? - 8/10/2007 11:58:56 PM   
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