BOLD

anyone hear of Iforce nutrition .. anyone take their products . real stuff that works or hype?

search the supp threads over the last month or two.  i remember someone saying they are a rep for Iforce but i cant remember who it was.  if you can find it you can ask them

It was VaughnTrue.  He said Bold was pretty good, and I'd take his word for it.

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

Im up 9lbs and down 2% bodyfat in 5 weeks.


are my results above average? yes.


why are they above average? I eat PERFECT. all my carbs come from oatmeal/veggies, and I eat 6 8oz chicken breasts a day.



we have customer reports of 10-22lbs gained depending on cycle length.




What is Bold?


Bold is a prohormone that is commonly labeled 1,4 AD. This is not to be confused with prohormones of old such as 1-ad, or even 4-ad...or the newly popular M1,4 ADD.

This naturally occurring compound is a direct precursor to Boldenone, a derivative of testosterone. 1,4ADBOLD is an extremely effective aid for increasing receptor activation and initiating the muscle tissue rebuilding process that yields solid gains in lean muscle mass. The 1,4ADBOLD compound has a very high level of bioavailability with a majority of the chemical passing through the liver without being deactivated by 17-ketosteroid. The potential conversion rate to estrogen is favorable for increasing tissue growth and repair, but minimal enough that very little noted side effects occur such as increased body fat, gynecomastia, or water retention.

So, in essence, Bold is a prohormone to the active hormone Boldenone.



I want to try Bold, how old do I have to be?


Bold, like all other prohormones are intended to be used by anyone who is 21+. If you aren't 21...don't take Bold. It is really THAT simple.




Ok, Bold is a PH and I'm 21. How do I take the stuff?




Bold can be run many different ways. If you are new to PH's/AAS we strongly advise that you use no other PH while using Bold. However, we do advise everyone to use Testobolan while on cycle with Bold. A typical first cycle would look like this:

Weeks 1-6: Bold @600mg/day, Testobolan @ 3-4/day.

This stack can be run up to 12 weeks safely. Yes...12 weeks.

Many users lately have been using doses up to 1 gram/day. We at iForce do not reccommend this as it equates to anywhere from 650-800mg/week of Boldenone...almost double what most users use. A safe effective dose is 400-800mg/day and no more. 800mg/day is for experienced users only.



Wait a minute...I thought you said to take Bold alone? Why would you take Testobolan with it?




Testobolan has been shown to help raise natural testosterone. This simply means that if you take Testobolan while on a Bold cycle, it will be significantly easier to get through PCT as your shut down will be minimal if any at all!




PCT? What in the world is PCT and why do I need it for Bold?




PCT stands for post cycle therapy. Although Bold is a very safe/mild PH it does have the ability to "shut you down" or halt your natural testosterone production.

While most harsh PH's require the use of a SERM for post cycle therapy(which is very difficult to come by for some users), Bold requires only Testobolan and a common AI such as Ergopharm's 6oxo.





Ok, I've got my Bold 200, my testobolan, and my 6oxo(insert other generic AI here)...do I need anything else?




Before running any cycle, I would pick up Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support or Life Support. This should be taken for the duration of the cycle as it helps with general health, as well as helping to keep users as side effect free as possible.

It is possible to feel some cramping with this compound as is normal with all PH's, so having a bottle of taurine on hand will definitely help. I like to dose my taurine anywhere from 3-10grams a day depending on how I feel.

Liver support such as LiverLonger(my favorite) or Liv52 are not NECESSARY for the cycle as the compound is a non-methyl, however if you are nervous about it, shell out the extra bucks and go for it. It will not hurt gains whatsoever. Most of us need healthier livers anyway.



Ok, I've got everything set and ready to go...Just how HYOOOGE am I going to get from this stack?




Bold is not an instant mass builder and does take 2-3 weeks to kick in for most users. It is not uncommon to gain 1-2lbs a week of pure LBM...not water/fat. There are several reviews of users gaining 12-15lbs during an 8 week cycle. Not too shabby for a non-methyl!

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

thanks vaughn .. that was pretty straight forward. Im not 21 but im still considering taking Bold and possibly another iforce nutrition product.

Maybe Ill try this stuff for my next cycle. How does this compare to the Methyl 1-D im using?

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Maybe Ill try this stuff for my next cycle. How does this compare to the Methyl 1-D im using?

 
Just like I stated in your original thread, the methyl 1-d you're taking is ABOSLUTE nonsense.
 
 
Bold and Methyl 1-d are completely different as one is a PROHORMONE to Boldenone(a steroid), and one is a mixture of an AI and dhea.
 
 
 
 
 
 
thus why you shouldve listened to me in the first place and not bought m1d

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

ORIGINAL: shredded06

thanks vaughn .. that was pretty straight forward. Im not 21 but im still considering taking Bold and possibly another iforce nutrition product.

 
well I'm glad you like iForce, but if you are willing to use a hormonal product of ours and you're below 21, you and I have nothing more to speak about.

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

Do not exceed recommended serving. Exceeding recommended serving may cause serious adverse health effects. Possible side effects include acne, hair loss, growth on the face (in women), aggressiveness, irritability, and increased levels of estrogen. Discontinue use and call a physician or licensed qualified health care professional immediately if you experience rapid heartbeat, dizziness, blurred vision, or other similar symptoms. KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Safety sealed for your protection.

ORIGINAL: Jayman666

Do not exceed recommended serving. Exceeding recommended serving may cause serious adverse health effects. Possible side effects include acne, hair loss, growth on the face (in women), aggressiveness, irritability, and increased levels of estrogen. Discontinue use and call a physician or licensed qualified health care professional immediately if you experience rapid heartbeat, dizziness, blurred vision, or other similar symptoms. KEEP OUT OF REACH OF CHILDREN. Safety sealed for your protection.

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"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

Vaughn,
 
You said your diet was perfect, can you elaborate on it a little more?  I am very interested.  If I was going to use bold, I'd follow a similar diet, seeing your results.

ORIGINAL: redtailshark2000

Vaughn,

You said your diet was perfect, can you elaborate on it a little more?  I am very interested.  If I was going to use bold, I'd follow a similar diet, seeing your results.

While on Bold + Tren(first 4 weeks of my cycle) I followed a diet consisting of green pees, oatmeal, chicken breast, and smart balance butter. That's it. 3lbs of chicken a day, 75grams of protein from whey, and 350grams of carbs ALL from oatmeal/veggies.

During Bold+SD(which is now) I have added some whole wheat bread in, but not much. I now have 450grams of carbs(all complex...90% coming from oatmeal still), and still 3lbs of chicken+75 grams of whey.

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

What is your macronutrient split?  How many cals over maintenance are you?  No high glycemic carbs post w/o?  Since you are stacking with Bold, you can't atribute all of your gains to the product alone.  You must be taking in close to 2g per lb of protein right?

ORIGINAL: redtailshark2000

What is your macronutrient split?  How many cals over maintenance are you?  No high glycemic carbs post w/o?  Since you are stacking with Bold, you can't atribute all of your gains to the product alone.  You must be taking in close to 2g per lb of protein right?

I attribute pretty much 95% of my weight gains to the bold...Tren is a cutter and does not add mass except in very inexperienced ph users.

I don't believe in high glycemic carbs post w/o...plenty of science shows that its not necessary.


I take in a minimum of 400 grams of protein a day, usually more...I weigh 215 at the moment.

I dont know how many cals over maintenence I am, I could care less really. I am eating 400+grams of carbs, 400+grams of protein, and 125-150grams of fat.


plenty of cals...I'm gaining fast and still leaning out.

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

when you say tren  is cause u were taking trenbolone acetate or other product???? i know that tren acetate  is good when u r cutting but also u gain  good lbm....