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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 7/25/2007 7:49:08 PM
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toolman4052
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I do know that China recently shut down the export of raw materials so it the future the supply of these products are going to be affected
I heard about that...
Does the government make money off of the sales of the supplements (besides tax money)? Maybe that's why they allow loopholes...? I do know that just because something is unsafe doesn't make the government make it illegal (cigarettes, chewing tobacco, alcohol, etc.).
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 7/25/2007 8:04:57 PM
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Gotcha-I dont even know what the heck the active ingredient is in it-never heard of it
Epihydroxyetioallocholan-17-One Ethyl Ester, Yohimbine HCL
only thing I recognize is yohimbine -which I dont know why would be in their anyway for the most part
Epihydroxyetioallocholan-17-One Ethyl Ester is the chemical name for the steroid androsterone. Its an androgenic hormone that is less active than testosterone.
http://www.sigmaaldrich.com/catalog/search/ProductDetail/ALDRICH/219010
http://www.zirchrom.com/pdf/284.pdf
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/23/2007 2:45:35 PM
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Does anyone know if MagnaDrol 30mg will test as a steriod? Is it a steriod? The health store recommended the product and promoted it as a body builder supplement. If I took them continously for 6 weeks (3 times a daily) instead of taking he recommended break - do you know if it will cause problems. I am noticing that I am having problems concentrating, is that a side effect? I am 18 years old and have taken Protein Shakes and this product throughout the summer. I am concerned because even though the weight gain is significant and I am pleased - will I test positive for steriods?
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/23/2007 3:32:21 PM
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No it is not illegal and these products are READILY available on the many web e-tailers. I have been trying to find out myself where the loophole in the law is that allows them-have not been able to get a straight answer on that
I do know that China recently shut down the export of raw materials so it the future the supply of these products are going to be affected
OTC compounds such as havoc,propadrol...ALL the available "prohormones" on the market are legal not due to loopholes, but because of the government just simply not having enough time.
Think about it like this:
Equipose(a steroid) is classified as illegal for reasons x,y,z. All compounds that meet reasons "x,y,z" are also considered illegal as they hjave all the same(theoretically) effects as Equipose or ANY other illegal steroid for that matter.
Now, a company INVENTS a new compound...we'll use Havoc. This product meets x,y,z however who is testing this product to see that it in fact IS a steroid and therfor illegal?
The government is only aware that the ingredients are as they say, however knowing the ingredients gets them no closer to knowing what it really is than it does for any of us!
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/23/2007 4:49:02 PM
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Does anyone know if MagnaDrol 30mg will test as a steriod? Is it a steriod? The health store recommended the product and promoted it as a body builder supplement. If I took them continously for 6 weeks (3 times a daily) instead of taking he recommended break - do you know if it will cause problems. I am noticing that I am having problems concentrating, is that a side effect? I am 18 years old and have taken Protein Shakes and this product throughout the summer. I am concerned because even though the weight gain is significant and I am pleased - will I test positive for steriods?
Look man, your 18, its this simple. DO NOT TAKE PROHORMONES/STEROIDS UNTILL YOUR OVER THE AGE OF 21. Your endocrine system/ growth plates are not ready for any form of hormonal imbalances yet.
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/23/2007 8:17:10 PM
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I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear. I do not want to take steroids. I am concerned that the product I have been taking, MagnaDROL containing the following ingredients:
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane- 30mg
17beta tetrahydropyranol
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 10mg
could cause me to test positive for steroids.
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[Deleted] - 8/23/2007 8:35:20 PM
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/24/2007 7:43:42 AM
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I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear. I do not want to take steroids. I am concerned that the product I have been taking, MagnaDROL containing the following ingredients:
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane- 30mg
17beta tetrahydropyranol
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 10mg
could cause me to test positive for steroids.
I'm not a chemist, but eyeballing those systematic names it looks like Magnadrol is Prostanazol and ErgoMax.
Prostanazol is a steroid. Dmitry Berestov is an Olympic weightlifting champion who is banned for a couple years for testing positive for Prostanazol.
Last time I checked, ErgoMax is also a steroid.
I could be 100% wrong though because I don't dig too deep into all of the designers.
So, depending on how the tests are administered and what they are testing for, you very well may test positive for steroids.
The first compound:
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta tetrahydropyranol IS infact like deadly said, prostanazol. It is an unmethylated precursor to winstrol.
The second compound:
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol is none other than Phera Plex. Its a methylated designer steroid.
So to answer you question about magnadrol, you ARE taking steroids, and you very wall may test positive for them.
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/24/2007 12:17:06 PM
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ORIGINAL: ge
I'm sorry, I don't think I was clear. I do not want to take steroids. I am concerned that the product I have been taking, MagnaDROL containing the following ingredients:
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane- 30mg
17beta tetrahydropyranol
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol 10mg
could cause me to test positive for steroids.
I'm not a chemist, but eyeballing those systematic names it looks like Magnadrol is Prostanazol and ErgoMax.
Prostanazol is a steroid. Dmitry Berestov is an Olympic weightlifting champion who is banned for a couple years for testing positive for Prostanazol.
Last time I checked, ErgoMax is also a steroid.
I could be 100% wrong though because I don't dig too deep into all of the designers.
So, depending on how the tests are administered and what they are testing for, you very well may test positive for steroids.
The first compound:
[3,2-c]pyrazole-5alpha-etioallocholane-17beta tetrahydropyranol IS infact like deadly said, prostanazol. It is an unmethylated precursor to winstrol.
The second compound:
17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol is none other than Phera Plex. Its a methylated designer steroid.
So to answer you question about magnadrol, you ARE taking steroids, and you very wall may test positive for them.
ding ding ding! spot on johnny...like normal.
steroid testing is very rare. Unless you KNOW about a specific steroid test, or are joining the police/education force, you should be fine.
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Weight : 258lbs
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Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/24/2007 12:39:13 PM
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johnnyb1635
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Thank you vaughn.
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RE: Liquid Masterdrol..? - 8/24/2007 9:38:33 PM
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I'll see johnnyb's quote, and I'll raise it to DO NOT TAKE STEROIDS UNLESS YOU NEED THEM TO REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN A PROFESSIONAL SPORT.
I couldn't agree with you more, there's really no reason for it. If you're looking to get to a certain size, and have gotten a diet and all the necessary crap down, you'll probably workout for a good 10 or 15 years. You'll hit your goal no matter what in that timeframe, steroids will speed up the proces but it's not really worth it.
Actually the only time I've thought about taking a prohormone was in a year or so when I'm cutting from 200 to 185, maybe 190, and that was purely for the fatburning it does.
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