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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 1/10/2005 10:50:49 AM
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Powerhaus
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My regular doctor didn't seem to be taking my sholder injury seriously enough, so I went to a sports medicine clinic. They had me x-rayed and MRI'd in no time, and sent me to physical therapy. If I had waited much longer, I might have needed surgery. I did exactly what my PT said, and after about a month my shoulder is finally back to normal working order. After MONTHS of having to be very very careful when I did bench presses, and stopping as soon as my shoulder felt pressure, it's really wonderful to be back to normal.
I strongly recommend a good physical therapist to anyone with persistant injuries.
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 5/22/2005 6:25:37 AM
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I'm new at this. Excuse my ignorance. I have no idea how to work this system yet. With that being said...I have horrible pain in my left shoulder and arm. I got an MRI. The MRI revealed that I have a torn rotater cuff. Recommendation: cortisone shot to help ease pain and surgery. I was told that after surgery, recover and rehab takes about 6 months. I don't want surgery. I am exploring all options. Pain is horrible. Can't use my left arm. Can't work out. blah, blah, blah...anyone out ther with experience with diagnosis of torn rotater cuff? Any advice/experiences you want to share? I would appreciate any and all input. My email address is lynnthigpen@adelphia.net.
Many thanks...Lynn
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 5/22/2005 7:54:59 AM
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Marc David
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Lynx100 did an excellent write-up on this. Even more detailed then the original you are reading now.
Rotator Cuff - Exercises and Rehab
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 5/22/2005 2:43:41 PM
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Lynn,
recovery and rehab does indeed take ATLEAST 6 months. This depends on a lotta things. Your age, dedication to your rehab exercises, the thickness of the tear, whether it was an intra-muscular or tendinous tear etc. Ive researched this topic through and through and ive also experienced a tear myself, albeit not huge, but enough to debilitate me - so much so that i wasnt getting any sleep because of the pain. Surgery was also suggested for me but i didnt take that option.
As for cortisone shots, i strongly suggest to take them, especially if youve injured it recently.
Please PM me with any questions you may have and i will try my best to help you out.
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potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 12/16/2005 2:14:31 PM
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sparky8500
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i there
last week i was doin incline DB presses and felt my shoulder come out of the socket and kinda tear i think. After i couldnt move my shoulder rite up in the air without pain. Itz now been 5 days and ive only seen slight improvement in it. At the moment i feel so depressed after reading about rotator cuff and that sometimes u can never get back 100% effiency on shoulder. Im seeing my docotor next week but im shore he will just tell me all i know from reading from this site. What i wanted to ask was has any1 got back to full fitness with the shoulder from this injury(How long it take), also i hear ice packs and specific exercises can improve it but how often do i need to do this. Finally what do u think, i wanted to start bulking after my holiday but i feel if i cant pull the weight on my shoulder itz gona make my body luk out of shape and size.
Hope you can help, because gym is life for me
thanx
Sparky
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 12/16/2005 10:42:12 PM
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Sorry to hear that.
Yes. I've had some bad shoulder times over the years. Many many years ago, I had to take a 6 week+ layoff because of shoulders. Daily icing, movement therapy. Resting it. Then I got back and was able to train without any problem. But I only have 90% of my shoulder mobility back and way too much strength! My injury was not surgical.
I've just come off of a long hiatus from the serious training and was on maintenance. I still had a lot of muscle & strength but my joints, tendons and ligaments are not up to snuff.
So I pretended I was a beginner.
Plus as a smart lifter, I do warm ups for everything.
But my rotator cuff was still irritated by the roughing up.
So now I do the rotator exercises before every workout as a warm up.
I ice it after every exercise session.
The irritation has gone away. My strength increases and size increases continue.
Your doc will tell you what the score is. What type of injury you have. Recovery time, mobility issues.
Ice daily, and do not train in or using the shoulder area unitl you have finished recovery.
Take the time off because gym is life for you..and find the other life...outside the gym.
Balance is a good thing.
Use the time to learn about nutrition or strategies to achieve your goals faster....something else you always wanted to do??? Use the time to your advantage!
You need to take time off from the gym if you want to avoid injury from overuse and other stuff...take this as a break.
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 12/17/2005 6:35:39 AM
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sparky8500
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thanx for your help
Hope my Doc tells me it is a minor tear and that i could return to the gym after my holiday (3 weeks) and start doing light weights with my shoulders. Except for ice packs and certain exercises is there any medication or ither options that could help in my injury.
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 12/17/2005 10:54:36 AM
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danmirage
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Glad to hear it is minor. Smart move going to the doc.
Because you already saw a doc...I am going to tell you what my doc recommended for me.
This is what my doctor (also my training partner at the time) had me on to recover from shoulder injury then later knee ...then later elbow ...then wrist tendinitis from being hit by a car...
400 mg ibuprofen 4x day for 4 weeks. With food. You can do 800 2x a day if your day is hectic.
Ibuprofen reduces swelling and increases circulation in the injured area...speeding healing.
If you have any reaction in your stomach you stop, as some people are sensitive to this.
Also you must get the purest form you can...many have artificial colors and crap and these will irritate your stomach and mess with your system. (look at the label for no colorings, no artificial flavors, etc)
If you are on anything else, check with your doctor first. Always check with your doc before starting new medication.
All the best on recuperation!
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 12/18/2005 1:24:55 PM
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sparky8500
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Thanx for the info
I think u got the wrong end of the stick thou, i havent seen my doctor yet, seeing him on wednesday. I am hoping it is only a minor tear to the tendon. The past week and abit since i did this injury it has been gettin better by the day, i have started placing ice packs on it for 15 minutes, twice a day and keeping active using my shoulder on the cross trainer and rowing machine. When i did my shoulder excercises about 3 days after gettin the injury i stuck to exercises that i felt no pain with, like up rite rows cus i heard strengthening the muscles around it will help. So at the moment im hoping my doctor tell me it will be fixed in 3 week, cus thats when i get back from my holiday.
Thanx for your help
Mark
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 1/14/2006 1:52:25 AM
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sparky8500
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Hey there
Back off my holiday and still got this niggling injury, is there any point bulking up when i cant do military presses. shall i 1st get my shoulder on the rite track and then start bulking.
sparky
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RE: potential rotator cuff at 18 (Help needed) - 1/14/2006 6:22:46 AM
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danmirage
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quote:
1st get my shoulder on the rite track and then start bulking
That would be my game plan. That would be my recommendation, heal that injury!
My Rotator cuff was a bit irked at the intensity of my workouts. So I went into the warm up, rotator cuff rehab movements, ice..cycle. I have also taken a month off of serious training and now I don't feel a thing in my shoulder.
I am just now starting light warm up style work outs and am slowly working back into the intense bulking training...only problem I have...I am stronger than when I started my lay-off!
Take a time to rehabilitiate.
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 8/25/2006 12:02:00 AM
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isn't 3 plates per side 270lbs?
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 10/9/2006 9:54:48 AM
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Hi guys, new to the forum but found this thread interesting cos ive in the past had a serious shoulder injury that took me out for the best part of a year after surgery to take out the burser. I am yet again injured this time in the other shoulder and this has been getting worse over the past few months and once again i could end up having surgery, not quite at that stage yet but if no improvement happens in the next few weeks then who knows. Im presently resting and icing, ive had a cortisone injection a few weeks back but to no avail. To say its getting me down is an understatement cos i love training, im 40 this year and training has been a big part of my life for over 10 yrs now. When i first got the injury i could still do bench press, but that is now a big no no. i was still able to do bicep curls and triceps and even shoulder presses but over the months this has become impossible, the only thing i can do now is certain bicep excercises.
The pain is not so much in my shoulder but a pain which goes down into my bicep when i do any pushing movement, i get pain in my shoulder or bicep when i raise my arm out to the side. I went to see a chiropractor last week who did a bit of work and said give it 10 days or so and try light weights again..lol...cant see that being an option myself as the pain is worse now. Thinking of seeing my Dr again for a second shot to see if that may work. So to sum up where i stand right now. I get bloody pain by some movements and am not doing any upper body excercises now.
Sorry for the long winded post.
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RE: Shoulders - Rotator Cuff - 12/2/2006 10:30:06 AM
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Makarov
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I really really need help finding out what my problem with my shoulder is.
So is anybody familiar with these symptoms?
On the top part of my shoulder bone, the bone sticks out a bit and is raised a bit higher than the other. It hurts pretty bad when I lift weights. It doesnt usually hurt other than that except for lately its been having a dull pain to it whenever I lift my arm above my head. It also gets kinda stiff when I do this.
Does anybody know what this could be? It really sux and I dont want to give up weight training for any period of time. Tonight I'll be lifting in fact. I really dont want this to stop me...:(
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