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Top Teenage Supplements - 8/7/2003 1:01:23 PM   
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We get a lot of emails and phone calls asking what teenagers should take. Here are the two categories they fall into:

1.) They want to bulk

2.) They want to lose fat and gain muscle

Feel free to post away with recommendations so people know what to do.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/7/2003 4:42:19 PM   
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I personally take about 3 servings of protein per day. 1 serving of whey immediately following my workout, another at dinner time, and 1 serving of a mixture of whey and casein before I go to bed. I think the mixture is about 7:3 casein to whey. Its nice because it is less soluble and therefore induces muscle growth while you sleep. Also, I take a centrum gold pill for all my vitamins ect. But I think eating right (and alotSmile), is more important than the supplements you take. It has worked for me thus far.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/17/2003 6:58:12 PM   
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yes. i am a 16 year old weightlifter. i take 100% whey protein after each of my workouts and met-rx meal options at night. i hear a lot of talk about creatine, but i am quite skeptical of its results. i personally prefer to take the whey and the met-rx shakes and get as much protein as i can during the day.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/17/2003 7:57:26 PM   
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hey bananas welcome to db, i am also a little skeptical of creatines results because i haven't seen much of a difference, but hey look at mark mcguire.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/20/2003 11:38:44 PM   
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Im 15 and have used creatine for about 3 months. I noticed i had more endirance at first then sort of died down. I did get stronger though. I increased my weight on almost everything by atleast 10lbs or so. After I run out of my current powder I am going to stop taking it too see what happens and if my muscles deflate or not.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/22/2003 12:42:36 PM   
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thats good to here, and welcome to db choloschoeluvr<---lol, nice handleSmile

its good to see that you are making gains, i also started when i was fifteen, but i didn't start supplementing until i was sixteen, which i am now. just keep lifting i dont think you'll lose your gains or if you do, it will be minor

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/22/2003 1:24:38 PM   
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^^^^^^^^Thanks for the welcome. Also whats CASEIN? I always hear about but im not sure what it is. I think I might start buying glutamine to take but for now I can barely afford protein powders and creatine. How do you guys afford to take that much whey protein through out the day. I take in atleast 160g of protein daily to amintain my muscle but only 50g if from protein powders. I eat tons of chicken daily to get my amount of protein. But right now im in my cutting phase to lose some bf then once I get about 10% im bulking up big time.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/22/2003 8:24:15 PM   
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casein is just another type of protein, just like whey is milk dirived, so is casein

the difference is that way is very solluble and therefore absorbed quickly, conversly casein is not very soluble and therefore not absorbed quickly. Thusly, if taken at night it is used slowly and you get more out of it. also, it helps prevent protein breakdown.

as for protein: well i get mine at gnc, and i have a card so i get 30% off, and i buy 5 lbs of it, so its like 20 bucks and last like 3 months so i can make it up quickly.

I think i answered it all. Yeah i agree if you dont have the funds stick to the protein, glutamine is good but not necessary.

keep the posts comingSmile

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/22/2003 10:05:34 PM   
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I think I might have to go get some Casein. My protein is 47.95 and only lasts me 20 workouts so about a month. But I have tried other powders, quite a few actually, and Isopure zero carb is my fav.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 9:01:34 AM   
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yeah go for it dude, i think you'll really see some gains with it, i have and i like it a lot!Smile

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 2:49:24 PM   
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Ok so like im 18 kind of a skinny guy I got fat in unwanted areas. And I also want to build some muscle ive been taking creatine for about 2 weeks. It has given me about maybe 1/2 pound muscle on my. Arms and the creatine has made me stronger but no matter how many reps I do. With weights for my arms they dont get sore they dont hurt . And it seems like I cant build anymore muscle no matter how many reps I do. I want to ditch the creatine and go with something better that will give me everything I need. To help with the muscle building proccess but not sure what the best suppliments are for me since im on a budget.


Thanks for your time and help!!!Smile

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 7:13:08 PM   
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hey davehiya, welcome to db!

well you situation is complex. I dont think the problem lies with the creatine, i think it may be your work out program. First of all do you lift at your house or in a gym? And if you lift at your house what kind of equipment do you have?

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 7:18:45 PM   
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Hello davehiya Welcome To DB!

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Arms and the creatine has made me stronger but no matter how many reps I do. With weights for my arms they dont get sore they dont hurt


Soreness or pain do not determine muscle growth. I believe if you wanna bulk up maybe you can give max-ot a try the first post under the training section.

Also remember the only way to increase your arms or any other muscle is by overload. Like Arnold says the only time muscle builds is when your in your final 2-3 reps and the pain makes you wanna quit but you go on no matter what. So if you feel your completing your sets with no strain or pain felt (this is only while your lifting) at that moment it means the weight is too light.

Also do read the sample bulking up plan written by MDA.

Remember muscles dont build overnight i've been training for a month my arms may have a increased a little bit but nothing happens fast. There are no miiracle supplements basically you can take protein, creatine and multi vitamins. These are not half as important as nutrition. Creatine is a supplement dont expect too much from it, in due time you will see your results. Eat right, train hard and sleep well and wait for 3 months to judge your results.

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 7:37:28 PM   
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yes, fossils is correct, but here are some links for your wizack:

Max OT

Bulking Plan

Protein Info

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 8:50:14 PM   
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WOW you guys have blown me away ive never been to a forum with such nice people that give tons of support and clear solid information before. I guess you guys are right maybe i'm just expecting results too fast ill push those extra reps harder and i like using freeweights i use a 25 to 30 pound freeweights im going to give the max ot a try and let you guys know about my results after a week thanks again everyone .

oh btw :ive been eating like alot of meats,carbs,health shakes with vitamins ect in it anything else i should be eating lots of ? and how should i spread all of this out in a full day ?

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/23/2003 8:59:20 PM   
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its better to get nutrition constantly throughout the day, maybe like 5-6 meals instead of 3. interestingly, if you look at our closet relatives (the chimps and apes) they eat constantly through out the day, but the problem is with our advanced culture we can eat anything we want whenever we want so we tend to gain weight more easily. whereas if you had to kill every cow you ate, you know, you wouldn't eat so much red meat and you'ld be burning a lot of calories bringing old bessie down... but anyways enough ranting.

o and your most welcome! feel free to explore the other parts of the site theres a lot of useful infor for you, and if you have any questions feel free to post away!

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/24/2003 10:02:51 PM   
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I think the links Supremefresh and the info Fossils gave should pretty well cover you... I'm doing a review on Burn the Fat (which isn't just about burning fat) and so far it's going well.

You will find a ton of info already in the forum with more on the way.

Looks like you've already been welcomed by a couple of my senior members but let me extend a belated welcome as well. Smile

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/25/2003 6:23:15 AM   
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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/27/2003 10:07:56 PM   
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Well it hasn't been a full week yet but my progress is going very well. I did what you reccomended Fossils and pushed myself the hardest. To do lift more when i can berly stand the pain anymore and it works great. I've been bench pressing around 45 pounds before i was only able to do 2 sets of 20. With a 3-4 minutes break in between sets but for the past four days. Of pushing myself the hardest i can now do 2 sets of 34 with with only 2 mintues rest. Arnold was right that extra bit really does build muscle. I'm very surprised how such a small amount can do so much.

Btw:I'm going to be resting tommorrow and get 1 full days rest but is that enough ? I want to give my muscles enough time to heal and build but is there a way to tell how much rest I should be getting?

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RE: Top Teenage Supplements - 8/27/2003 10:56:20 PM   
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Its great to see your progressing and doing great

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I've been bench pressing around 45 pounds before i was only able to do 2 sets of 20. With a 3-4 minutes break in between sets but for the past four days. Of pushing myself the hardest i can now do 2 sets of 34 with with only 2 mintues rest.


Is your goal to bulk up or increase strength and tone up? Cuz if im not msitaken your following the MAX-Ot plan which states 4-6 reps and not 34? 34 is a lot you can increase the weight and do shorter reps. Remember muscle build by overload not by 500 reps that only makes you sore and increase strength excellent for atheletes. So anyways if your goal isnt to be an athelete lift a weight with which you can do 4 reps but no more than 6 reps per set. Read the max-ot again thoroughly and keep it up!

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