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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/9/2007 7:19:19 PM   
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Perhaps in 10 weeks the Raiders open their mini camp, and Vegas Luna here wants to desperately add weight so he can show up and try out for a spot on their offensive line. God knows he couldn't do any worse than the dudes they have there now.

He is avoiding the question so my bet it is for something trivial like a girl.


It takes years to build a good body, in your rush most of what he gains will probably be fat.




your right i am not trying to join a football team :)

i really am serious guys i really want to do this for short term gains and for long term gains because i know once i do it for 10 weeks i will develop it as a habit .. it has already become a daily challenge and starting to become fun :)

i joined this forum cuz i want to make new friends who know more about this and so i can learn and do it the right way .. i am really trying . i am figuring out a diet plan and an exercise routine which i will post soon .. thanks :)

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/9/2007 8:16:29 PM   
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ok guys i just got back with a weight scale and i weighed in at ... drumroll ... 147 woot :)

ok so i am doing great to my goal of 155 in ten weeks .. i knew i was gaining weight :)

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/9/2007 8:35:08 PM   
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You will want to be aware that if you gain weight too fast, you're going to be gaining fat. The same is true if you don't have your whole nutrition plan in order. Also, your weight will fluctuate by several pounds over the course of the day (a pound is only a pint of water!), so always weigh yourself at the same time of day (e.g. in the morning before breakfast.)

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/9/2007 11:34:21 PM   
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You need to eat whole foods. Having Two weight gainer shakes that equal 2,000 calories a day and then having some spaghetti-O's is not going to cut it. In addition you need to make sure you're having protein rich meals, such as chicken.

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/13/2007 10:25:01 PM   
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You need to eat whole foods. Having Two weight gainer shakes that equal 2,000 calories a day and then having some spaghetti-O's is not going to cut it. In addition you need to make sure you're having protein rich meals, such as chicken.


well look at what i ate today:


yogurt granola bar serving 140 4 26 2 yogurt granola bar serving 140 4 26 2 Rockstar Energy Drink oz lb gram kg 1170 0 279 0 chef boy ardee spaghetti and meatballs serving 540 20 64 22 yogurt granola bar serving 140 4 26 2 Socko Energy Drink oz lb gram kg 120 0 28 0 yogurt granola bar serving 140 4 26 2 Extreme Rapid Milk Shake serving 1017 4 105 68 Chicken, breast, with or without bone, roasted, skin eaten cup, cooked, diced oz, boneless, cooked oz, boneless, raw (yield after cooking) oz, with bone, cooked (yield after b... oz, with bone, raw (yield after cook... cubic inch, boneless, cooked breast quarter (yield after cooking,... medium slice (approx 2" x 1-1/2" x 1/4") thick slice (approx 2" x 1-1/2" x 3/8") thin slice (approx 2" x 1-1/2" x 1/8") large breast (yield after cooking, b... medium breast (yield after cooking, ... small breast (yield after cooking, b... Quantity not specified 383 15 0 58 Milk, cow's, fluid, whole cup fl oz school milk carton (1/2 pint) Guideline amount per fl oz of beverage Guideline amount per cup of hot cereal Guideline amount per cup of cold cereal Quantity not specified 1199 65 91 64 Totals 4989 119 671 220

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/13/2007 10:31:19 PM   
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sorry that did not post well .. try again

4 yogurt granola bar 140cals each
1 Rockstar Energy Drink 1170cals
1 chef boy ardee spaghetti and meatballs 540cals
1 16oz Socko Energy Drink 120cals
1 Extreme Rapid Milk Shake 1017cals
1 Chicken, breast, with or without bone, roasted, skin eaten 383cals
8 cups Milk, cow's, fluid, whole 1199cals

TOTAL: 4989 cals


i drink tons of milk in the evening, i do not drink soda hardly ever anymore, i always drink milk and lots of it .. milk counts right ??? Am I even in the ball park here ??? actually i just worked out and gonna eat some cottage cheese and drink more milk before i go to bed .. so am i even in the ballpark here ??? thanks ..

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/13/2007 10:33:41 PM   
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btw i wieghed in at 146.6 tonight before bed ..

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/14/2007 5:28:51 AM   
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You're eating a ton of processed garbage and you're gaining fat.

Many people here have attempted to guide you to making a smarter decision, but you've seemingly chose your own road.

The important thing is others here have pointed you in the right direction and given you the resources to reach your goal in a safe and healthy manner, it's up to you to make the change.

If you continue on this current plan of eating processed junk, shakes, and 1 whole food a day, your BF% will increase and you'll come back here asking us to help you lose all that fat that covers those abs of yours.

Do it the right way.

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/14/2007 7:54:42 AM   
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You're eating a ton of processed garbage and you're gaining fat.

Many people here have attempted to guide you to making a smarter decision, but you've seemingly chose your own road.

The important thing is others here have pointed you in the right direction and given you the resources to reach your goal in a safe and healthy manner, it's up to you to make the change.

If you continue on this current plan of eating processed junk, shakes, and 1 whole food a day, your BF% will increase and you'll come back here asking us to help you lose all that fat that covers those abs of yours.

Do it the right way.




I am trying. I don't know how. I ask for foods list. Look at what I eat and tell me what is wrong and I should replace with and I can do that. I am a total newb here.

So dump the granola bars for breakfast and replace with what ?? Would oatmeal be ok??? I thought granola bars was good for ya ..

My energy drinks are like my coffee in the morning. I don't drink coffee or soda.

Ok dump chef boy ardee for lunch and replace with what? This is probably the biggest thing I need to replace.

I bought a bag of chicken breasts and cooked them all on the grill and I have them in the fridge to eat. I mostly eat those for dinner now.

The milk shakes are protien wieght gainer shakes I bought at the health store to help me gain weight.

Please be more specific because this is totally new stuff for me. should i just eat chicken at all meals ???

thanks ..

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/14/2007 7:59:34 AM   
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1.)  Post your weight, height, and age.

2.)  Post your current workout in full

3.)  How many calories do you consume during an average day?  Take that number, we'll say 1500 and throw away the junk and replace it with a protein, starchy carb, and fibruous carb.  Eat six meals a day every three hours and make sure you hit 1500 (eventually you'll want to increase this number since you're bulking, see the link below).  I've pasted some ideas for foods below.  If you're bulking look at this link. http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_111173/mpage_1/tm.htm

Lean Proteins include:
Chicken Breast
Turkey Breast
Egg Whites
Tuna Fish
Shellfish
Most Fresh Fish Filets
Lean Beef
Lean Buffalo

Starchy Carbohydrates include:
Potato
Sweet Potato
Brown Rice
Oatmeal
Whole Grains
Quinoa
Amaranth
Tomato
Peas
Corn 

Fibrous Carbohydrates include:
Broccoli
Cauliflower
Mushrooms
Peppers
Onions
Asparagus 
green beans,  
Snow peas 
artichoke,
bok choy,
brussels sprouts,
chili peppers,
jalapeno peppers,
leeks,
eggplant,
endive,
red cabbage,
kale, 
zucchini,
lemon grass
squash
baby carrots
beets
Lettuce

Come back with doing your work on 1, 2, and 3 and I think you'll be much better off in the long term.


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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/14/2007 1:36:43 PM   
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TODAY SO FAR:

1 yogurt granola bar - 140 cals

Now I am not sure why granola bars are not good for ya ??? I am going to look into replacing with oatmeal in the morning. Does it have to be plain oatmeal or i can eat the creme oatmeal packets ???

Rockstar Energy Drink 391cals 93carb

1 Tuna salad submarine sandwich, on roll, with lettuce 373cals 51carb 20prot

10 Carrots, baby, raw (medium sized i think) 38cals 8carb 1prot

now the thing about these baby carrots i do not understand is they are not that much cal carb or protien so why eat them when they do not taste good???

ok well tonight i will try to eat:

1 Chicken, breast, with or without bone, roasted, skin eaten 383cal 58prot

Milk, cow's, fluid, whole i drink lots milk

1 Extreme Rapid Milk Shake 1017cals+ whole milk  105carb  68whey prot


I know you say to eat 6 meals but that is way overboard for me. I can barely eat the above. I am stuffed. I am eating as much as I can, i just wanna gain a little weight .. is that good above ??? I will post my workout plan next . thanks ...

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/15/2007 8:09:10 PM   
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Yogurt granola bar is nothing more than a candy bar in disguise.... drop it... add 1 cup of plain oatmeal...

The rockstar is nothing more than a super caffeinated pepsi... drop it, add some cottage cheese, string beans and a chicken breast....

Carrots process very fast... although a good veggie, this will ultimately convert to a insulin spike causing you to crash energywise... if you still have these add a chicken breast to them to slow the spike...

Although Protein shakes work great in a pinch, understand that any muscle you gain from them will ultimately go away when you stop...

Bottom line... you should be eating 6 servings of a protein per day.... so like 6-8 chicken breasts....

you should be eating 6-8 servings of a starchy carb per day... so a butt load sting beans.. cottage cheese...rice...

you should be eating 6-8 servings a day of fibrous carbs... so a crap load of brocolie...Yams... and Salad... 



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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/16/2007 5:47:26 AM   
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Hey Vegas ... here's a good example below.  Keep in mind I'm cutting not bulking.

2498 calories w/ a ratio of 22/53/25 (fat/carb/pro)

Meal 1
4 egg white w/ 1 yoke
1 cup Oatmeal
10 Baby carrots
2 tbsp fish oil

Meal 2
4oz Sliced roast beef
1 cup Brown rice
5 - 5" Celery Stalks

Meal 3
10 medium Shrimp
Salad
2 cups of Corn

Meal 4
3oz Chicken Breast
2 cup Brown Rice
1 cup Broccoli

Right before workout 1/4 teaspoon per 35 lbs of weight 8 grams BCAA

Workout

Right after workout 1/4 teaspoon per 35 lbs of weight 8 grams BCAA

Meal 5
3 oz Chicken
1 Sweet Potato
5 - 5" Celery Sticks

Meal 6
3 oz Chicken
1 cup Brown Rice
Salad

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/16/2007 6:11:55 AM   
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Are you working your legs?

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RE: hello everyone I need to reach a goal fast please - 3/16/2007 4:21:22 PM   
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lmao matsuzakki.  I'm with ya.

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