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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/28/2007 11:11:28 AM   
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Foods look fine.  Always keep in mind tha variety of veggies and stuff is good for you.

Your current ratio is fine for where you are in training.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/28/2007 5:00:34 PM   
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Great ! i'll keep to the ratio for the time being then. When's a good time to change?

Veggies hmm i always find broccoli the easiest to eat but i'll try to get others =D

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/28/2007 5:38:17 PM   
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When's a good time to change?


Think in terms of large and small cycles when it comes to diet and fat loss.
Large cycles refers to your 12+1 week approach.  (+1 is the week off)
Small cycles refers to adjustments you make to maintain the fat loss velocity!

You are getting into the intermediate level of understanding and you are almost ready for this.

For the most part, your goal is to train to gain muscle and burn fat.  Your diet should support muscle maintenance and even growth as well as powering your activities that burn the fat and build the muscle.  If you do not power the activities, at some point you are likely to start to burn muscle for energy and then you cripple your fat burning metabolism.

However, for short periods you can modify the carb/protein balance to get the body to squeeze out more fat for energy.

If you are missing meals this will not work. 
If you do this for too long you will start to burn muscle and store fat...at which time you went too long and need to return to the optimal nutrient balance for you and get back to the basics of the work.
 
(So plan to have a meal replacement and water with you ALWAYS!)
 
Over time you do not need quite as many calories only if you are losing weight.  Unless you are also gaining muscle, as muscle increases your caliric needs. So, reducing calories is not really ideal unless you cycle the reduction carefully.  Instead, look to use progressive activity primarily for the stimuli. 

Cycling calories down only when you are seeing regular fat loss and then you see a slow-down in fat loss but muscle is holding steady or growing.  Primarily, those calories will be from carbs.

Keep calories where they are if you are regularly losing fat and keeping/gaining muscle.

Bump em up if you start to lose muscle.  If you gain fat and lose muscle...bump just protein and change training.

Remember, your training includes a gradually progressive carido and gradually progressive resistance training component...those are your primary tools along with diet to keep the gains going.

This is an introduction to the principals.Smile

I know everyone on this thread read this...so I expect you all to comprehend it! Smile

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/28/2007 7:53:23 PM   
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Damn dan, your so full of information haha. I'm just waiting for my stupid calipers to be delievered then i can start making my weekly adjustments Smile. Measurements are so important, can't believe i missed it out for the pass 8 weeks what a damn waste of time Smile.

Dan about the HST, do i start with 15 reps for 2 weeks and how many exercises to be performed? the samples show 9

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/28/2007 8:34:52 PM   
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I would say, since the goal is fat loss to use 15,12,10,8
Like it says..2 weeks each.

Find your rep max for each one and then back out your starting weight as explained in the directions...(6 training days per rep range, constant weight increase) that gives you 8 weeks right there...add in the 5 rep if you have a partner and you have 10 weeks...add in the eccentric training again, if you have a partner, at the end before you take 10 days off and you have 12 weeks!

It is a constant progression program.

Note that a 15, 12, 10, 8, 5 rep max means you CAN do all 15, etc  without failing or assistance!

Combine his list with the TDT list for exercise choices...but yes:

Front & Back of legs (stiff leg deads are ok too for back of legs!!!)
Chest
Back
Shoulder
Biceps
Triceps
Calf
Abs
Traps...now you can x-change deadlifts for this too!

Vary the movements a little bit...just to have fun.  Work your weakest links.

Plan 2 weeks at a time out in advance!

Got it?  Lets see the first 2 weeks...Smile

The only difference is you will also do cardio...3x a week for now.
Again, resistance training time in gym is important to keep at 40 mins, with-60 mins max.

PWO, Warm up, train-BCAA @30mins during-train, cardio, cool down stretch, PWO

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 1:31:26 AM   
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So for example i do 15 reps for the 1st two weeks , then 12 for 2 weeks then 10 for 2 weeks then 8 for 2 weeks? each time i visit the gym i increase the weights? meaning 2 x 6 increasing the weights 12 times? How bout the exercises i do at the gym are they the same type of exercise for each rep range for 2 weeks? then i chage to a new set for a diff range for another 2 weeks?

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The only difference is you will also do cardio...3x a week for now.


i don't get this. I'm alrdy doing cardio 3 times a week after gym (HIIT).

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PWO, Warm up, train-BCAA @30mins during-train, cardio, cool down stretch, PWO


Are you saying i should take BCAAs?.

Also Dan about my diet. I feel that my fat loss has slowed down. I know for a fact that since i've come back from australia i've lost weight just by looking at the mirror.

Also i just took my BF using Accumeasure and it read 14.3% but i dunno if its accurate =/. is there any way i can confirm that my BF is around this? like how my tummy should look at 14.3%?

BTW dan do u use a normal tape measurer to measure your biceps , chest and muscles?

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 7:12:06 AM   
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Had a total of 2320 calories today. 44% Carbs , 33% protein , 23% fat. I seem to be eating  around this % for the pass week. Since i just got my fat measured today i'll wait until next thursday again to measure and see if i need to change my diet. =D

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 12:54:08 PM   
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Yes on the set/rep scheme..but the weight used changes each dat..remember you find the max and then back out 5 decreases ...as per the instructions.

You can vary exercises so long as you keep to the progression..but hey, just keep em the same for the 2 week intervals. Its easier.

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i don't get this. I'm alrdy doing cardio 3 times a week after gym (HIIT).

The instructions (3 pages worth) tell that you don't do cardio...YOU will continue to progress your cardio.

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Are you saying i should take BCAAs?.

That would be ideal.  And a Pre and Post-Workout EAA or BCAA or Whey.

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I feel that my fat loss has slowed down.

Ignore feelings, use progressive photographs and caliper+circumference measures+ clothing fit.

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I know for a fact that since i've come back from australia i've lost weight just by looking at the mirror.

You know nothing.  Lookin gin the mirror every day is affected by psychology.  Use measurements.

my fat loss has slowed down <---------------->i've lost weight

You see, these are contradictory!  This is all in your mind.  Everyone goes through this.

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Also i just took my BF using Accumeasure and it read 14.3% but i dunno if its accurate =/. is there any way i can confirm that my BF is around this? like how my tummy should look at 14.3%?


Ignore the %.  Just write it down along with the individual pinches at as many location as you can (7-9 locations...look at the losing fat thread to find the link with the images of all the locations!)   Then compare the changes over time.

Which Accumeasure is it?  How many locations did you pinch?

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BTW dan do u use a normal tape measurer to measure your biceps , chest and muscles?

I measure 8 locations (plus I get left and right sides every month of biceps, calf, thigh, forearm) using a myotape tape measure.

circumference measurements:
Unflexed!  Same time, same way, same place, every week.
Biceps (arms out from side 90 degrees to body palm up)
Chest
Abs (belly button)
Hips (largest place around buttocks)
Forearms (arms out from side 90 degrees to body palm down)
Calf (thinckest)
Thigh (midpoint)
Neck (adams Apple)

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 4:33:16 PM   
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quote:

remember you find the max and then back out 5 decreases ...as per the instructions.


whats back out 5 decreases? what if my 15 rep max were 22 lbs for a certain exercise.

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You can vary exercises so long as you keep to the progression..but hey, just keep em the same for the 2 week intervals. Its easier.


So for 6 training days i'll be doing the same exercise ?

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And a Pre and Post-Workout EAA or BCAA or Whey.


If i take whey pre and post like i do now do i still need BCAAs in my system 30 minutes into my training?

Will be taking my measurements today in the afternoon. Is it ok if i just used a normal tape measurer like the ones tailors use to measure things.

I only pinched the area above my hip. Will be looking at the threads latr for other places to pinch.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 5:14:14 PM   
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whats back out 5 decreases? what if my 15 rep max were 22 lbs for a certain exercise.


Are you saying that one exercise is 22 pounds?...Create a 5 step progression that ends with 25 pounds then.  Use you head.

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So for 6 training days i'll be doing the same exercise ?

Look at the example 2 week 10 rep image.

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If i take whey pre and post like i do now do i still need BCAAs in my system 30 minutes into my training?

Whey 30 minutes before and right after cardio...

You don't have to do the BCAA...it is just one way to refine....
Drink 1 cup Green tea before you train..that is another refinement during fat loss.

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Is it ok if i just used a normal tape measurer like the ones tailors use to measure things.

Thats good.

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only pinched the area above my hip.

That is limited.  More pinches = better measurements.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 7:58:57 PM   
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Workout was great today. Last workout of my 8 weeks training as well. Gonna take a break from HIIT and lifting for a week.
Will be going to a class chalet for 3 days also. Smile hope i don't eat too unhealthyily Smile thinking of bringing some whey with me

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/29/2007 8:11:57 PM   
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After going through the hst notes / methods a few more times, i'll go to the gym next monday and check out all my 1 rep maxes for the exercises then i'll come out with a programme =D.

I think i'll get the BCAA. =D

I think i'll make saturday mornings my weight in and measurement days how about that?

Ate too much protein today. Consumed 2452 calories 22% fat , 42% carbs 36% protein. I seem to over eat on protein on training days. hmm

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 11:43:14 AM   
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quote:

After going through the hst notes / methods a few more times, i'll go to the gym next monday and check out all my 1 rep maxes for the exercises then i'll come out with a programme

NOT 1-rep max!!!

15-rep max!
Then, Following-up every two weeks preparing for the week to come; 12-rep max, then 10, then 8, then 5!!!!

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I think i'll make saturday mornings my weight in and measurement days how about that?

That sounds good Smile

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Ate too much protein today. Consumed 2452 calories 22% fat , 42% carbs 36% protein. I seem to over eat on protein on training days. hmm

You are doing fine...Smile

While on the break..things will be wobbly..then when you return, start at 50/25/25 and form there it will creep back Smile

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 5:45:22 PM   
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15-rep max!


haha ok. I hope  pick up the right weights from the get go so i don't lose energy. I find i usually lose strength after the first exercises =(.

50/25/25 it will be!

Woke up feeling no aches today unlike last week when i felt i was a wounded soldier.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 5:47:02 PM   
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Woke up feeling no aches today unlike last week when i felt i was a wounded soldier.

THAT is a measureable improvement!!!

Celebrate!

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 8:12:41 PM   
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yippeee!

btw i got my mum to use accu-measure and get readings from 10 parts. Chest Midax Bicep Ab Supra Thigh Calf Subsca Tricep and Lower-back. But i dunno what table to key in.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 8:50:49 PM   
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Excellent!  Got bodyweight along with that?

Note time and date+ cloths worn!
+Take circumference measures to go with that for some x-referenceing!
+Take a picture!

Just write measurements down..if you choose a table...always use that one and note which one you use for yourself.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/30/2007 11:56:38 PM   
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Yeap i got my bodyweight too. 173.8lbs. I'll use the measurements as markers. Had to rush out of the house so didn;t take pictures =(. Which table should i use to calculate my BF%? all of them seem so different...giving me 10%-18% lolz

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/31/2007 12:32:25 AM   
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Record thme all and watch the variations if you want some entertainment!

The more points you use the better.

Really, all that matters is consistency. 

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RE: My fat loss journal - 3/31/2007 6:53:59 AM   
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haha ok i recorded them all using the different methods =D. Just a progress tracker. Meanwhile i tried to find that book "BFFM" but couldn't find it today =(.

Hmm ate a nice cheat meal today - Slow cooked beef (was not  fantastic as it sounded) but hell the brownies were to murder for damn it i ate half the tray's worth!

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