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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 7:13:28 PM   
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Yeah i've been looking for PURE whey but i can't find any here its frustrating. I don't like the stuff they put in it but.....



Heres a link where you can get PURE Isolaste protein at a pretty fair price
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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:26:46 PM   
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http://www.supplementdirect.com/

You might try theirs..it might cost even less.Smile

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:29:10 PM   
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EAS  100% whey protein.

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Container Size: 5 Lbs.
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (30g)
Servings Per Container: 75 Amount Per Serving:
Calories 120
Calories 20
Total Fat 2g 3%
Saturated Fat 1g 4%
Trans Fat 0g
Cholesterol 70mg 24%
Total Carbohydrates 2g 1%
Dietary Fiber 0g
Sugars 1g
Protein 23g 46%
Calcium 145mg 15%
Iron 1mg 2%
Sodium 50mg 2%
Potassium 170mg 5%
Ingredients:
Protein Blend (whey protein concentrate and whey protein isolate), natural and artificial flavors, acesulfame potassium, sucralose and yellow.



Optimum Whey Protein



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Container Size: 5 Lbs.
Serving Size: 1 Scoop
Servings Per Container: 77
Amount Per Serving:
Calories: 120
-Calories from Fat: 10
Total Fat: 1g
-Saturated Fat: 0.5g
Cholesterol: 30mg
Total Carbohydrates: 3g
-Sugars: 1g
Protein: 24g
Calcium: 140mg
Sodium: 60mg
Potassium: 220mg
Enzyme Blend: 25mg
-Aminogen --
-Lactase --
Other Ingredients:
Protein blend (whey protein isolate, whey protein concentrate, whey peptides), cocoa (processed with alkali), artifical flavor, lecithin, acesulfame potassium.
Note: Nutritional content and ingredients may vary slightly between flavors.



This is the 2 best i can find Smile. Theres others out there but i see milk in some of them. So out of this 2 which is better?

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:33:03 PM   
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Hmm....what's the diff between pure whey isolate and whey protein?

Also, just to clarify again, i don't need EFAs from fish oil since i'm already taking 3 oz of cod and 3 oz of salmon everyday right?

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:34:35 PM   
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Yeah i've been looking for PURE whey but i can't find any here its frustrating. I don't like the stuff they put in it but.....

Heres the measurements this week compared to last week:

Week 3:                Weight: 80kg

      Methods:             BF%        BF        LBM

 Jackson/Pollock 7   13.69     10.95   69.05
 Jackson/Pollock 3  11.39     9.11      70.89
 Jackson/Pollock 4  14.69     11.75   68.25
 Parillo                       45.90     80.78    95.22
Durnin Wormsley   21.84    17.47    62.53
Tape                          17.28     13.82    66.18

This Week:         Weight 79kg/173. lbs

   Methods:             BF%      BF       LBM
Jackson/Pollock 7     12.99    10.26    68.74
Jackson/Pollock 3     12.28     9.70     69.30
Jackson/Pollock 4     13.32   10.53     68.47
Parillo                    45.46    79.00     98.80
Durnin Wormsley      20.59    16.27     62.73
Tape                     18.69    14.76     64.24

Left Bicep 11 1/2 -> 13 1/4 flexed
Right Bicep 12 -> 13 1/4 flexed

Chest - 38 -> 40 flexed

Calf - 15 1/2

Left Forearm - 10
Right Forearm - 10

Out of 6 comparisons, 2 opposed that i lost fat.
This is Great!!!!!!even with all that crazy eating on last friday i managed to lose weight AND FAT! - hope its true!
Definitely feel like i've lost fat , though that doesn't count for anything. SmileSmileSmileSmile Much happier after seeing those calculations.
Muscles seem to have stayed around. My chest increased by an inch flexed!
But abdomen went up by 1/4. Weird


Abdomen could just be muscle or food/water in the gut
Tape does not work when you are gaining muscle.

Parillo and JP 7-site are good measures.

Awesome...you are making great progress.
Keep it up!

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:42:32 PM   
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Yipppeee Smile

In the future when i bulk how do i measure i am gaining muscles?
What's myotape good for ?
As for the whey i've searched the web in singapore to see if theres pure whey but i keep coming up with optimum , eas , champion and other types with all sorts of ingredients in it. I'm stuck with either eas or optimum now.

Went shopping for my weekly groceries and saw all these fantastic bread i had to have some. Ate 7/8 wholemeal baguette and 3/4 of a ciabatta olive -  My heart is feeling tight now...damn. Yet i got a big meal coming up tonight....Smile

That parillo method is weird. it shows such a high BF% and LBM above my weight.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:53:12 PM   
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If you can find the Natural ON Whey, that is better...
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/opt/natwhey.html
Looks like that...

Myotape is for recording the RAW circumference measures week to week.  This is VERY important!!!

unflexed..

Forearm at thickest
Biceps at midpoint
Around the shoulders mid delt
Neck @ adams apple
Chest at nipple
Waist at belly button
Hips around thickest part of buttock
Thigh at midpoint
Calf at thickest

Ion-exchange purified whey — This is the most pure of all the whey proteins, but may have reduced immunostimulant properties due to chemical processing.

Whey isolates — These products are purified without the use of heat. Thus, they still contain the potentially beneficial immunostimulant constituents (immunoglobulins) of whey. Whey protein "isolates" are typically lower in lactose, fat, and cholesterol than regular whey protein.

Whey hydrosolates — Essentially this is pre-digested protein that is assimilated into the body more quickly than other, non-hydrolyzed types. This is well suited for use after exercise because of the increased bioavailability of the pre-digested protein.

The whey proteins used in sports nutrition usually contain protein in a range of 70 to 90 percent or more.  Those that range from 70 to 89 percent are classified as whey protein concentrate. A concentration of 80 percent is usually the standard used in most WHEY CONCENTRATE supplement products.  Whey with a protein content of 90 percent or higher is classified as whey protein isolate.  The higher the concentration of protein, the lower the fat and lactose content, so WHEY ISOLATE obviously has a higher protein content with less fat and lactose than WHEY CONCENTRATE.  This would imply that Concentrate would absorb at a slightly slower rate.  however this difference is very minor.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 10:56:48 PM   
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I see. ok definitely getting the myotape. Will look around at stores outside for the pure whey.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/11/2007 11:12:57 PM   
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http://www.nutritionpark.com/product.php?catid=43&/Protein-Powder

This is what was recommended to me buy the gym instructor.
Btw, are fat burners helpful or just load of crap?

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 8:40:16 AM   
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Well, it has the same artificial crap in it that I recommend you stay away from.

Fat burners? 
Well, lets say that they are 90% crap and 10% usefull tool.
That 10% is very hard to make use of if you do not already know how to lose fat!  Since you are already losing fat, why concern yourself with it.Smile

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 8:46:40 AM   
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Hey dan just to comfirm, PURE whey protein ingredients means no artificial flavours..blabla just whey?

LOL. about the fat burner i was just being impatient.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 8:55:49 AM   
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LOL. about the fat burner i was just being impatient.

I know!  Hee Hee.Smile

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Hey dan just to comfirm, PURE whey protein ingredients means no artificial flavours

Yes. Bulkingup and I linked you to Whey WITHOUT nasty ingredients.  If you can find ON whey, then you should be able to get ON Natural whey.  The things we linked to above are better priced products.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 9:02:29 AM   
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Searched thru 7 sites that sell whey..all different types but with nasty crap Smile. I don' live in the usa so i can't get it from those links. Smile


OMG i think i found it finally. Is this ok ? :

http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2138524&cp=2665513.2108294&page=4&doVSearch=no&doVSearch=no&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family

Are body fat scales inaccurate?

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 1:59:14 PM   
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That parillo method is weird. it shows such a high BF% and LBM above my weight

Something wrong there!!!  The computation is screwed up.

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Are body fat scales inaccurate?

The ones you can buy are.  THere are high end ones that are very accurate.

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OMG i think i found it finally.

That is ok if you are not allergic to soy.
If you can get GNC...they can get the Natural ON Whey for you...just ask!

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 2:05:10 PM   
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Can you get this?
http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2190659&cp&pg=5&fbn=Taxonomy%7CSports+Nutrition&f=Taxonomy%2FGNC%2F2167077&fbc=1&kw=on+natural+whey&parentPage=search

It is a better deal.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/12/2007 7:14:48 PM   
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I try asking them for natural on whey. 

If not i'll just try that thing i linked. i can't get that designer whey - natural ether =/.


Couldn't help but take a swing at 1 left over pork rib and some sing ray from last nights dinner for my meal 2. Ate it with a sweet potato and some carrots though. Try my best to resist some biscuits and munched on almonds and cashew nuts. This meal was prolly higher in fat and sodium then usual. Is it considered a cheat meal? =/

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/13/2007 12:59:42 AM   
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Been Napping for 3 hours i feel so happy lols. Anyways, today i didn't count calories, aside from that meal stated above, i've been eating the usual sweet potatos and broccolis and fish. Didn't weigh the food though. Need to eat bigger portions today since i'll prolly eat 4 meals today.

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/13/2007 3:16:17 AM   
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Just called all the stores of gnc and they dun have that natural on whey nor designer whey natural. Damn. I'll just buy that Optimum Nutrition 100% Any Whey Protein.

In truth does those ingredients really make a difference?

Damn i was mistaken. The website i linked was US and therefore i cant get that whey. OMG.

I've resigned to the fact i can't get pure whey here Smile.
Out of these which is best to get ? http://www.nutrifirst.net/sub/cat/id20.html


Today was the 1st time i snacked so badly. After dinner - ( 6 oz lean topside, 200g sweet potato, 150g broccoli). I sat down and watched movie for a while then got up to eat some cashew nuts. Couldn't stop after 1 or 2 handfuls had to go for 5. After that, opened a pack of nuts coated in flour that my dad had bought. Still that wasn't enough, i ate half a pack of ruffles that i was 100% sure had trans fat in it. This is certainly not good for me. I knew it was bad to eat such things yet i couldn't stop myself. It was like i really couldn't control. I My mind was saying one thing while my hands and mouth were doing another. This is really depressing....

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/13/2007 11:41:04 AM   
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That was your cheat day.  Carry on!

Just lets you know you are in a caloric deficit.

Call that company and see if they can order and start to carry the Natural ON Whey or the Designer Whey!

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RE: My fat loss journal - 5/13/2007 3:52:32 PM   
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That was 2 cheat days in a row. =/ damn. My control over my body seems so weak on weekends.

Called all those websites hotlines and they say they don't sell those stuff. So frustrating....

~ 5 More Weeks til BULK!

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