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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/26/2007 4:35:51 PM   
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Legs -
Machine Squat 1x15 180lbs
Machine Leg Press 2x15 320lbs

Chest -
Incline Bench 2x15 125lbs
Dips 1x15

Back -
Chins 2x15 70lbs assistance wide grip
Seated Rows 2x15 100lbs

Traps -
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Shoulder -
Shoulder Press 1x15 115lbs
Lateral Raise 1x15 15lbs
Standing Rear Delt Row 1x15 60lbs

Bi's -
DB Curls 2x15 Wide - Grip 60lbs

Tri's -
Arm Extension 2x15 90lbs

Calves -
Calf Raises 2x15 130lbs

Abs -
Decline Weighted Sit-Ups 2x15

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/26/2007 4:53:26 PM   
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Weighed ~221

 
WOOOOT!Smile

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/27/2007 5:49:53 PM   
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Got the g/f to take my BF%, but I didn't have time to take all the BF% you listed previously beecause I was unsure where to take some of them.

Tricep - 26
Bicep - 12
Back - 33
Abdominal - 19

The sum of the above is 90.  According to the chart, this puts me at ~26  BF%, which is slightly higher then I originally thought.

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/27/2007 5:55:14 PM   
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According to the chart, this puts me at ~26  BF%, which is slightly higher then I originally thought.

It does not put you anywhere.  It is just for comparing progress from week to week.  Keep in mind, the same person should take the measurements from the same place at the same time weekly for it to be most consistent.

Look at the pictures in the link I give in my threads...for location from which to take the pinches.

The pinches should EXCLUDE muscle!

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/27/2007 6:04:48 PM   
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Dan, on the issue of muscle, the shoulder blades on my back, I can grab alot out. Is this muscle or fat, or skin?

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/27/2007 7:29:08 PM   
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You know...thats tough to answer without taking the pinch myself.

You undersand that there is the skin and water with the fat under that....then there is the muscle under that.  When you pinch and FLEX the muscle in question you should not feel the muscle...test it on the biceps.  relax the bi...intentionally pinch the skin and get the muscle...then tense the bi....see how you can feel the muscle...you get the feel of water, muscle, skin, fat...

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/28/2007 4:20:28 PM   
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Workout Day 18

Legs -
Machine Squat 1x15 210lbs
Machine Leg Press 2x15 360lbs

Chest -
Incline Bench 2x15 95lbs
Dips 1x15

Back -
Chins 2x15 70lbs assistance wide grip
Seated Rows 2x15 100lbs

Traps -
Shrugs 1x15 60lbs

Shoulder -
Shoulder Press 1x15 115lbs
Lateral Raise 1x15 15lbs
Standing Rear Delt Row 1x15 60lbs

Bi's -
DB Curls 2x15 Wide - Grip 60lbs

Tri's -
Arm Extension 2x15 100lbs

Calves -
Calf Raises 2x15 130lbs

Abs -
Decline Weighted Sit-Ups 2x15

Weighed ~221

Second full week of HIIT

6th week of my workout.


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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/28/2007 4:30:28 PM   
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When you post those, would you mind also commenting on the quality of your sleep, how well you did with meals...and how you feel overall...Smile

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/28/2007 6:35:27 PM   
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When you post those, would you mind also commenting on the quality of your sleep, how well you did with meals...and how you feel overall...Smile


Well, I feel really good, hence the increase in weight.  I PMed you an additional reason I'm feeling better.

Meals are good, but the sixth still isn't doing well ... I eat at 7, 1030, 130, 430, gym, and then eat again at 7.  I'm not hungry again nor should I eat until 10, so I guess I should just eat anyway because it's whole foods?

Honestly, I can't tell you how good I've felt both from the workouts and the diet.  The fact that I now get sick when eating fastfood is excellent!  HIIT is going well, I'm noticing the running isn't as hard as it was two weeks ago, although my heart rate is on par with the amount of excersise I'm exherting.

Anything else I should be doing?  Going to do the BF% once a week ... almost done my first fish oil bottle mmmm!

Thanks again for the help Dan, you rock!

edit:  Sleep is good, about 7 hours a night solid, which is pretty much the same mount I've got since Highschool.

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/28/2007 7:35:40 PM   
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Are you normally up until 10:45 or later?  You should eat that last whole food meal Smile

Excellent otherwise...as long as you are going in the direction you want, all is well!

Look at my last post I did on Saternal's thread...that is the tweak info for if you stall and are doing everything right....Smile
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.aspx?m=242300

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 5:56:28 AM   
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Are you normally up until 10:45 or later?  You should eat that last whole food meal Smile

Excellent otherwise...as long as you are going in the direction you want, all is well!

Look at my last post I did on Saternal's thread...that is the tweak info for if you stall and are doing everything right....Smile
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.aspx?m=242300


Thanks.  I'm normally in bed by 11/11:30, much later on Friday and Saturday nights and I have no problem eating the sixth meal on those days.  Sounds like if I stay up anymore then 45 minutes after 10 (which is when I should consume the 6th meal), I should go ahead and eat the meal.

I added the context from the link you provided to save time down the road.

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When's a good time to change?

Think in terms of large and small cycles when it comes to diet and fat loss.
Large cycles refers to your 12+1 week approach.  (+1 is the week off)
Small cycles refers to adjustments you make to maintain the fat loss velocity!

You are getting into the intermediate level of understanding and you are almost ready for this.

For the most part, your goal is to train to gain muscle and burn fat.  Your diet should support muscle maintenance and even growth as well as powering your activities that burn the fat and build the muscle.  If you do not power the activities, at some point you are likely to start to burn muscle for energy and then you cripple your fat burning metabolism.

However, for short periods you can modify the carb/protein balance to get the body to squeeze out more fat for energy.

If you are missing meals this will not work. 
If you do this for too long you will start to burn muscle and store fat...at which time you went too long and need to return to the optimal nutrient balance for you and get back to the basics of the work.
 
(So plan to have a meal replacement and water with you ALWAYS!)
 
Over time you do not need quite as many calories only if you are losing weight.  Unless you are also gaining muscle, as muscle increases your caliric needs. So, reducing calories is not really ideal unless you cycle the reduction carefully.  Instead, look to use progressive activity primarily for the stimuli. 

Cycling calories down only when you are seeing regular fat loss and then you see a slow-down in fat loss but muscle is holding steady or growing.  Primarily, those calories will be from carbs.

Keep calories where they are if you are regularly losing fat and keeping/gaining muscle.

Bump em up if you start to lose muscle.  If you gain fat and lose muscle...bump just protein and change training.

Remember, your training includes a gradually progressive carido and gradually progressive resistance training component...those are your primary tools along with diet to keep the gains going.

This is an introduction to the principals.Smile

I know everyone on this thread read this...so I expect you all to comprehend it! Smile


Interesting, more the reason to monitor BF% from week-to-week.

I'll try to get my sixth meal in more often. 

In terms of meal replacement ... if I'm away and have nothing heatlhy to eat, I'm guessing it's better to eat something like a (small - 6") hoagie rather then eat nothing?  Probably a wheat based roll, roast beef, provolone cheese and such wouldn't be too bad, considering the alternative is eating noda!

I'm heading down to the Masters tour next week, so I'll be gone Monday thru Wednesday, but I hope to get into the gym Monday/Wednesday before/after my flight departs/arrives respectively.  As for food, I'll be at the airport for 2 to 4 meals and I'll be eating out every night.  At the airport, the most healthy choice is probably Quiznno's if I don't have time, the alternative is eating at Chili's or Applebee's and having a chicken caesar salad. When I eat out each day, I'll try to have grilled chicken salad if it's available.

Any other suggestions?  It's impossible to eat 6 meals a day at the Masters because you can't even bring in water or even a cell phone!  So I'll be eating three meals a day, but I'll try to keep them better then a cheesesteak Smile  Then again, maybe Tuesday (my only full day in Augusta) I'll have a cheat day!

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 12:42:13 PM   
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In terms of meal replacement ... if I'm away and have nothing heatlhy to eat, I'm guessing it's better to eat something like a (small - 6") hoagie rather then eat nothing?  Probably a wheat based roll, roast beef, provolone cheese and such wouldn't be too bad, considering the alternative is eating noda!

If fat loss is the goal, you can drop the bread and eat the insides..meat, lettuce, tomato, etc..

Just make the best choices possible while travelling.  I just carry my meals with me Smile

If you can bring bars...you could grab some "Think Thin" bars from Trader Joes or Whole Foods for meal repleacements.  Designer Supplement bars are ok for this too and you can find those at some local GNC/Vit Shop/World places.

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 12:58:49 PM   
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In terms of meal replacement ... if I'm away and have nothing heatlhy to eat, I'm guessing it's better to eat something like a (small - 6") hoagie rather then eat nothing?  Probably a wheat based roll, roast beef, provolone cheese and such wouldn't be too bad, considering the alternative is eating noda!

If fat loss is the goal, you can drop the bread and eat the insides..meat, lettuce, tomato, etc..

Just make the best choices possible while travelling.  I just carry my meals with me Smile

If you can bring bars...you could grab some "Think Thin" bars from Trader Joes or Whole Foods for meal repleacements.  Designer Supplement bars are ok for this too and you can find those at some local GNC/Vit Shop/World places.


Thanks Dan ... going to check out the "Think Thin" bars ... because often times when I'm out at my second job fixing computers, I'm there much longer then I intend and get hungry quick.

I'm interviewing for a job next week that will be 50%+ travel, so I might have to devise a "taking meals with me" strategy.

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 1:07:58 PM   
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I love my cooler. Smile

I just travelled for a week and brought a week of meals with me.  I used the think thin bars 1-2 times a day (2-bars = a meal) with a celery stick!  It is not the best solution, but it is better than missing a meal.

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 1:18:10 PM   
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I love my cooler. Smile

I just travelled for a week and brought a week of meals with me.  I used the think thin bars 1-2 times a day (2-bars = a meal) with a celery stick!  It is not the best solution, but it is better than missing a meal.


Did you travel by plane?  If I brought a weeks worth of food with me, I'd need a decent sized cooler, baggage check would think I'm nuts!

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/29/2007 1:24:28 PM   
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When I fly, I pack just what I need +1 extra meal in my carry-on. 
Usually I have 5 extra meals worth of bars with me all the time.

Then, when I land, I go to Whole foods and construct all the meals I need!

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/30/2007 7:26:45 PM   
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Workout Day 19

Legs -
Machine Squat 1x15 210lbs
Machine Leg Press 2x15 360lbs

Chest -
Incline Bench 2x15 95lbs
Dips 1x15

Back -
Chins 2x15 70lbs assistance wide grip
Seated Rows 2x15 100lbs

Traps -
Shrugs 1x15 60lbs

Shoulder -
Shoulder Press 1x15 115lbs
Lateral Raise 1x15 15lbs
Standing Rear Delt Row 1x15 60lbs

Bi's -
DB Curls 2x15 Wide - Grip 60lbs

Tri's -
Arm Extension 2x15 100lbs

Calves -
Calf Raises 2x15 130lbs

Abs -
Decline Weighted Sit-Ups 2x15

Nice workout ... feeling a little weak towards the end, but my HIIT was great and felt awesome.

Weight was down a TON relatively today ... ~217, but I think that's because something didn't agree with me last night.  My g/f made grilled chicken casear salad ... it's my cheat, I do it once a week, but something was obviously wrong.  OK now, though.

Enjoying a glass of red wine from my beloved Washington state, all is well.



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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/30/2007 8:51:59 PM   
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Washington has some nice wines. Smile
When you start to feel weak...drink water and breath deep..that is when the carbs are running down!

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/31/2007 9:18:55 AM   
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Thanks.

In terms of HIIT, I feel like it's getting easier, but my heart beat is still where it should be, should I just keep at it until I see my heart rate falling?

As for Washington, I'm originally from Washington, good stuff, although I tried some Columbia Crest Merlot Cabernet last night and it was average, do you have some suggestions that you enjoy?

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RE: Turning Tits into Pecs - 3/31/2007 10:12:28 AM   
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I have to ask my mom who remembers the name...but there were some very nice wines from Willamette Valley as well...

I am living in Mendocino right now, and I prefer the Sirah (or petite) from Frey...it is Sulphite free and Organic Smile

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