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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 5:11:36 PM   
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o well heres the one i was reading if your interested

http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow1/5x5_Program/Linear_5x5.htm

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 5:17:36 PM   
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I know.  It has taken us a while to understand the relationship.  Look at the strongest lifters in the world.  Big men, high bodyfat % on many...

THe body does its best to keep a balance.

I did not say there is NO muscle gain, rather that it is minimal.

I simply said that the idea that increase in muscle size was automatically tied to increase in strength or increase in strength was automatically tied to increase in muscle size was incorrect.

Otherwise the strongest people in the world would have the most muscle!

And the biggest bodybuilde4rs would be the strongest...neither of which is absoutely true!

I see what you mean there. I wasn't reading deep enough into what you originally said. Thanks for not biting my head off like people on most boards would. Smile

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 5:21:41 PM   
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lol but at the same time u cant really get bigger without gaining strength in some way because u need to give ur body a progressing stimulus

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 6:23:05 PM   
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lol but at the same time u cant really get bigger without gaining strength in some way because u need to give ur body a progressing stimulus


You actually CAN get bigger without getting stronger (per say)!!

The progression does not have to be increased weight...in fact, increased weight and increased volume are probably the top troublemakers!

There are 100s of ways to get progression and those are just two!!!!

While they tend to be the two most familiar, they are by no means the most effective!

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 6:35:54 PM   
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oh and one last thing i forgot to ask you about, in each workout theres assistance sets to be done, i was wondering if..

I have never heard of "additional exercises" called assistance sets...very interesting.
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1. i could do the curls and tricep extensions that are set to be done on friday on wednesday because i only have 45 min. at the gym and i dont think i could fit those in along with everything else, i dont see why doing that would be a problem but im jw

I don't see a big issue here

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2. are these assistance sets all supposed to be to failure with the set amount of reps?

For arms choose a single biceps and triceps exercise and perform them at the end once per week for 3 sets of whatever - your arms will take a beating from all the pulling and pressing anyway.

Just vary it.  3x8  3x10  3x12  3x5

Depending on how you feel.  If you feel like a brute...3x5..if you feel like you want to get pumped...3x12...

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 6:55:35 PM   
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Okay, just follow the site for guidance on assistance. you're not supposed to screw around with it lol.

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RE: Bill starrs 5x5 - 2/2/2007 7:00:54 PM   
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Okay, just follow the site for guidance on assistance. you're not supposed to screw around with it lol.

MOP


lol well thats why im wondering, because the assistance sets are not specified in the site all it says is to do them at the end of the workout but i wasnt sure about the rest

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