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Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:38 PM
I'm about a month away from ending my bulking phase, and I'm getting ready to cut.  What is the best supplement stack to help cut?
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:51 PM
WATER, lots of it.
 
I'd like to see anyone come up with a better cutter than this.
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 5:55 PM
Water?
 
Look, I drink about a gallon a day and I know that helps with overall health as well as decreasing water retention and flushing out your system, but come on.
 
The old ECA stacks used to melt you down like water never could.  I never took them when they were on the market but I wanted to see if there was anything comparable.
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:02 PM
Then you already have a good start.
Caffeine is still a popular/effective fat loss tool.
Black coffee before cardio will help with burning fat for fuel.
Green Tea and Yerba Mate will help raise your core temp to burn fat.  Is this more to your liking, or are you needing a supp that may do more harm than good??
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:08 PM
Easy killer. Why so angry?  I thought it was a legitamite question but apparently I must be stupid for asking a question.
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 6:16 PM
Nope, not a stupid question at all, you should know what you are getting into when taking non-natural, or high dosage fat burners.  I was a fan of the ECA stack, it had no side effects for me, but the newer products are using proprietory blends of ingredients that are somewhat suspect.
Different products work for different people.  You might have success with a product that others don't, just be aware of it's side effects.  Dizziness, insomnia, seizures and headaches.  Only a small portion of people get these issues, but be aware.
How much are you cutting off?  And in what time frame?
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:40 PM
Anything with a combination of caffeine, green tea extract, and evodiamine (chinese herb used to promote fat loss).
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 7:50 PM
ECA stack. Everyone I know loses insane amounts of fat with little to no muscle loss. 
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:56 PM
Just let me get this straight?
 E- ephedrine (sp?)
 
C- caffine
 
A- ?
 
right? if so how can you still get ephedrine with the new bans on them?
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RE: Fat burners - Wednesday, January 24, 2007 10:12 PM
See, first of all, the ban is a complete joke. Anyways, I personally (well, I haven't got it yet due to paypal issues) go to buffmusclestuff.com. It is available widely as a nasal decongestant. And, do not take it if you have a pre-existing heart condition. That's generally the only risk. 
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RE: Fat burners - Thursday, January 25, 2007 12:05 AM
ECA. eh? Look into something with a fair amount of caffiene and  green tea. Your B vitamins. Eat 5-6 meals a day to keep your metabolism revving. L-Carnitine. CLA. Keep drinking lots of water as well. 
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RE: Fat burners - Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:49 AM
In response to optimumhealth, I need to lose about 12 lbs of fat in 3-4 months. 
 
In response to DA, thanks for the tip.
 
And a question for everyone-
 
I understand that the ephedrine and caffeine are stimulants, but why the Aspirin?  Anyone have any idea?
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RE: Fat burners - Thursday, January 25, 2007 10:54 AM
Also, what is the recommended daily dosage (mg) for such products?
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RE: Fat burners - Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:28 AM

ORIGINAL: Rufio14

Just let me get this straight?
E- ephedrine (sp?)

C- caffine

A- ?

right? if so how can you still get ephedrine with the new bans on them?

E=ephedrine
C=caffiene
A=Asprin
 
You can still get decongestant pills with ephedrine at the pharmacy or get some ma huang
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RE: Fat burners - Thursday, January 25, 2007 11:47 AM
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