RE: 20-beta-ecdysterone
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RE: 20-beta-ecdysterone - 1/26/2007 1:42:44 PM
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IBendBarbells
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Okay I went a tiny bit off subject I was just trying to point out that you guys keep looking for the easy way to gain... or the easy way to get big fast... By using pro hormones steroids or legal herb sups that really dont do anything at all..
I mean honestly guys if most people only gain 5 - 10 lbs of muscle with their 65 - 70$ that they spent on superdrol whats the point in that?
If you only gain 10 - 15lbs of muscle from dianabol by spending 100 $ in a month and lose the most of it anyways where is the point in that?
You guys are going to spend like what 40 - 50$ on this garbage and how much do you really expect to gain ? 2lbs? Why not just go to the store and spend the money on food?
It just seems like a waste of money too me... And the picture of the guy wasnt totally accurate he was getting surgery for his gyno problems contributed by the use of anabolics. I was just using him as an example.
< Message edited by IBendBarbells -- 1/26/2007 1:45:49 PM >
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RE: 20-beta-ecdysterone - 1/26/2007 1:49:29 PM
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danmirage
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supps are there to do what they are meant to do SUPPLEMENT your workout to give you an extra boost.
SUPPLEMENT means EXTRA....
Supplements are not a solution.
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e-bol could be the next big thing or it could absolutely suck, but you will never know until you try it. if you try e-bol and it sucked for you then you could criticize it all day, but don't criticize stuff that you haven't even taken yourself.
No, what is appropriate is to criticise a product based on evidence. That would generally be data from repeated tests. Then you will knoe what it does, in what dose, at what frequency, what the total effects are (desired and "collateral"), duration of use...
These clinical tests are to determine many things for us...safety being only one.
Not your own assumptions about what it may or may not have done.
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RE: 20-beta-ecdysterone - 1/26/2007 9:27:40 PM
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odw777
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I totally agree that everyone should research the supplements they buy throughly. I usually do that with most things so I don't end up throwing my money away.
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ORIGINAL: IBendBarbells
Okay I went a tiny bit off subject I was just trying to point out that you guys keep looking for the easy way to gain... or the easy way to get big fast... By using pro hormones steroids or legal herb sups that really dont do anything at all..
I mean honestly guys if most people only gain 5 - 10 lbs of muscle with their 65 - 70$ that they spent on superdrol whats the point in that?
If you only gain 10 - 15lbs of muscle from dianabol by spending 100 $ in a month and lose the most of it anyways where is the point in that?
You guys are going to spend like what 40 - 50$ on this garbage and how much do you really expect to gain ? 2lbs? Why not just go to the store and spend the money on food?
It just seems like a waste of money too me... And the picture of the guy wasnt totally accurate he was getting surgery for his gyno problems contributed by the use of anabolics. I was just using him as an example.
Hey an extra 2lbs of muscle per month plus maybe increased vascularity/intensity? Sure that's worth well it.
Cheaper then that bottle of NO2 I bought.
I don't have unrealistic expectations.
You can run a superdol cycle for 70 bucks? I figured it'd be way more then that with pct and everything.
I really don't know about ecdysterone but I want to keep an open mind because there are always overhyped supplements that do nothing but then again there are some that deliver and it's hard to see throught the marketing.
Well here's what I could find so far:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=3234543&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_DocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=9505354&query_hl=3&itool=pubmed_docsum
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