20-beta-ecdysterone

What is the best 20-beta-ecdysterone product out there(in your opinion)?

As in plant sterols?

Marc C. David
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lol no, I did copy and paste, hence the 20-beta-ecdysterone....Does anyone know a good ecdysterone product(for human use).

i think e-bol by thermolife might be a good product to try. looks pretty good.

i second e-bol. I've heard good things about Anagen too.

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Ecdysterone Products = Zero data.  No human exercise studies done in a published peer reviewed journal
 
The few "research" studies I've seen on some supplement sites that say it's more potent than steroids should tell you what a marketing joke this is.

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Ecdysterone Products = Zero data.  No human exercise studies done in a published peer reviewed journal

The few "research" studies I've seen on some supplement sites that say it's more potent than steroids should tell you what a marketing joke this is.

 
Yes but they did have independant animal studies that showed measurable increases in muscle/organ size. This was across multiple species, like I remeber sheep for example.
 
Anywho yeah I'd say go with e-bol. I'm ordering a bottle soon so I'll find out for myself.

Ah... animal studies.  Funded by who?  The supplement company with a vested interest in it's outcome?
 
1 study?  1000's of studies?
 
Again, no exercise studies done on humans.
 
Myostin showed animals with incredible muscular growth rates too! 
 
The main problem with supplements is:  People are purely purchasing based on other people's opinions and nothing based on actual scientific facts.  Not that opinions don't matter but.. in this case.. 

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One selected herb study
 
At least it was done on people specifically related to exercise but the results were less than promising.
 
"Other herbs remain virtually untested. Future research on ergogenic effects of herbs should consider identity and amount of substance or presumed active ingredients administered, dose response, duration of test period, proper experimental controls, measurement of psychological and physiologic parameters (including antioxidant actions), and measurements of performance pertinent to intended uses."

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Ah... animal studies.  Funded by who?  The supplement company with a vested interest in it's outcome?

1 study?  1000's of studies?

Again, no exercise studies done on humans.

Myostin showed animals with incredible muscular growth rates too! 

The main problem with supplements is:  People are purely purchasing based on other people's opinions and nothing based on actual scientific facts.  Not that opinions don't matter but.. in this case.. 

 
When will this fake steroid **** ever end...    E-bol = should know by the name its a bull **** product.  d-BOL = bull **** product.  Pink anabol Dianabols = real product. 
 
Superdrol = Real product.  Your age = Very young 
 
Magic pills / injections that make you big without having to work out = Fantasy
 
Diet + training = Priceless

Thanks Marc, your a really smart guy. So ill do some more research, but now it's near the bottom on my list of supplments, right under rat killer.

Incase you guys haven't figured it out yet....i'm not that smart of a guy. I read an article in M&F about this product, and they made it sound good....and im a sucker,lol.

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Ah... animal studies.  Funded by who?  The supplement company with a vested interest in it's outcome?

1 study?  1000's of studies?

Again, no exercise studies done on humans.

Myostin showed animals with incredible muscular growth rates too! 

The main problem with supplements is:  People are purely purchasing based on other people's opinions and nothing based on actual scientific facts.  Not that opinions don't matter but.. in this case.. 

When will this fake steroid **** ever end...    E-bol = should know by the name its a bull **** product.  d-BOL = bull **** product.  Pink anabol Dianabols = real product. 

Superdrol = Real product.  Your age = Very young 

Magic pills / injections that make you big without having to work out = Fantasy

Diet + training = Priceless

That's what people said about Arachidonic Acid. Except you can't really deny the gains people get from it, so it's seen as effective. There's a lot of people saying ecdys work for them. Gaspari included it in their haladrol liqicaps for some reason, right? I think there's huge potential in ecdys because they are so safe.

Anywho I'm skeptical too, so I won't make judgment on it before I take it. A lot of people seem to like ebol a lot, some don't.
But just because something doesn't give you Dianabol level results doesn't mean it's a fake bs product.
And yeah diet + training not roids. Ekhm ekhm.

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Ah... animal studies.  Funded by who?  The supplement company with a vested interest in it's outcome?

1 study?  1000's of studies?

Again, no exercise studies done on humans.

Myostin showed animals with incredible muscular growth rates too! 

The main problem with supplements is:  People are purely purchasing based on other people's opinions and nothing based on actual scientific facts.  Not that opinions don't matter but.. in this case.. 

When will this fake steroid **** ever end...    E-bol = should know by the name its a bull **** product.  d-BOL = bull **** product.  Pink anabol Dianabols = real product. 

Superdrol = Real product.  Your age = Very young 

Magic pills / injections that make you big without having to work out = Fantasy

Diet + training = Priceless

That's what people said about Arachidonic Acid. Except you can't really deny the gains people get from it, so it's seen as effective. There's a lot of people saying ecdys work for them. Gaspari included it in their haladrol liqicaps for some reason, right? I think there's huge potential in ecdys because they are so safe.

Anywho I'm skeptical too, so I won't make judgment on it before I take it. A lot of people seem to like ebol a lot, some don't.
But just because something doesn't give you Dianabol level results doesn't mean it's a fake bs product.
And yeah diet + training not roids. Ekhm ekhm.

 
believe it or not dianabol alone sucks too and even taking superdrol or dianabol people have still been known not to gain weight or only gain water weight. 
 
If your training and dieting is not down then nothing will work.  So yeah good statement at the end of your post .
 
get away from the anabolics and fake anabolics guys its really not worth it.
 

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