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are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 8:43:27 AM   
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Firstly, this seems like one of a better boards on the net, im happy to be here

Since strength is massively important to me, im wondering how many here are all around stronger than i am? i want to know how im doing so far - if you would like to post your lifts that be great, but please also post if you have used gear, and your height, weight, age, experience etc

experience - 1 year 3 months
age - 20
height - 6 foot 5
weight - 240lbs
used steroids? no

>all lifts raw + beltless<
Deadlift - 442lbs
full squat - 310lbs
dumbbell row - 142lbs x 17
hammer strength power shrug - 320lbs x 17
standing calf raise - 507lbs x 17
standing strict press - 150lbs
push press - 200lbs
power curl - 191lbs x 4
close grip bench press - 177lbs x 6
rope crunch - 270lbs x 13
dumbbell side bend - 142lbs x 10
pull ups - bodyweight x 4
towel grip hold - bodyweight x 58 seconds
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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 8:54:48 AM   
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You are definitely stronger than me...in every category except one.  I clean your clock in Pulls Ups.  LOL
 
I can do five sets of 10 with 30 seconds rest between sets or one set of 25 full Pull Ups, non-stop.
 
My body weight is 160 pounds and I am 5' 5.65"    I am 63 years-old.
 
My Personal best lift was accomplisihed last week:

Squats - January 2, 2007
6 x 6 - Free Standing - I did 295 pounds

1 x 30 - Free Standing - I did 225 pounds

Wait a minute...I squated 135 pounds more than my body weight and you only squated 40 pounds more than yours. hmmmmmmm.   LOL

Anyway, great lifts, Man.  You are an animal.  Strong!
 
 

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 10:19:14 AM   
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63 an training hard! good stuff!

cheers an yeh you own me on pull ups! checked out this article http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/7/ an i definately want to get strong on them, hoping to get 15+ by the end of next year

to be fair on the squat, its actually 70lbs more than my bodyweight, an a full squat, but yeh, squats not a good lift for me - needs improving for sure!

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 10:22:05 AM   
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Looks like some pretty good numbers. I am stronger than you, but I am also 3 years older. I would work on your pullups and bench. What is your bodyfat? This might be one reason why your pullups or so low, or because you have to pull more weight than most people. I have redicusuly long arms I can only 12, so I'm not that great either.

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 10:28:01 AM   
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63 an training hard! good stuff!

cheers an yeh you own me on pull ups! checked out this article http://www.dragondoor.com/articler/mode3/7/ an i definately want to get strong on them, hoping to get 15+ by the end of next year

to be fair on the squat, its actually 70lbs more than my bodyweight, an a full squat, but yeh, squats not a good lift for me - needs improving for sure!


Yeah...I was pulling your leg a bit about the pull ups.  It's easier when you weigh less.  At my last contest, I weighed 141 pounds and could rip off pull ups all day.  Now that I have added 20 pounds of off-season body weight, the pull ups are not as easy.  And with your weight and baseball22's, you huge guys will always have a problem doing a lot of pull ups.  You have a lot of dead weight to lift.

Great Work, Man.  You too, Baseball22

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 10:35:06 AM   
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strong pull ups for arm length an weight! owned me there! what are your other lifts baseball? how long have you been lifting? have you used gear?

Ive just started doing pull ups recently, done them 3 times now, i finding them a lot harder than chin ups an i seem to use mainly biceps instead of back as they are sore each time an my lats are not

close grip bench i have again just started doing recently, not a good lift for me but hoping to change that - hopefully 300lbs by the end of the year

edit - bodyfat is 12%

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 11:55:06 AM   
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check my signiture out and that will give ya an idea of my strengh

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 11:58:24 AM   
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Now this is what i like to see

1.Hes big
2.He doesnt use steroids and
3.His numbers are impressive, but not so impressive that we think "yeah hes a roider" or "yeah hes lying"

Well done mate, back a few months back i could do a full max squat at around 345-365lbs, but that was with a belt...without a belt...dunno, i wouldnt like to try it as my back would probably break lol.

Keep up the hard work

baseball, youre 6'8", to be blunt-you have the capacity to weigh a crapload more than ANY member here and still not look like a big beefy bodybuilder, also because of this massive amount of mass-you have potential to become stronger too.

There are negatives to it through having to push the weight further, but the amount of strength more from height you gain overpowers that.
Keep on training.

ON, for someone at your age, and your BW, you managed 30 reps at 225, and 6 sets of 6 reps at 295lbs?

Thats very impressive, i knew youd be strong obviously but i didnt know you were that strong, i never knew you was interested in strength much.

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 12:12:23 PM   
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out of all the things you listed, here is what I know my maxes on

Deadlift - 425 x 1 (back in August)
full squat - 315 x 3 (back in August)
close grip bench press - 225 x 6 (back in December)
pull ups - bodyweight x 12-15

20 years old
6'2 185 lbs

if you want to see the weights I use to work out, they're in my workout journal



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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 12:15:36 PM   
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Twistedlink wrote: ON, for someone at your age, and your BW, you managed 30 reps at 225, and 6 sets of 6 reps at 295lbs?

Thats very impressive, i knew youd be strong obviously but i didnt know you were that strong, i never knew you was interested in strength much.
 
Yes I did.  It was part of my just completed Widow Maker Power Workout that I have been keeping a journal about on this site.
 
I'm not in any sense a power lifter.  But, I have been doing some incredible workouts the past few months, that require a lot of 4-6 reps of heavy lifting.  I have grown stronger, but my goal is not strength as much as it is size for bodybuilding.  I weighed around 135 pounds my first year of bodybuilding.  My second year of competition had me at around 140 pounds all season.  As I prepare to enter my first Pro Master competition next September, my goal is to step on to the stage at between 150 and 155.  No easy task, but the heavy lifting I'm doing is sure helping.  I weigh 160 now and I'm using my added weight to work harder in the gym.  I'm looking for it to pay of in September.

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 12:47:07 PM   
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Since strength is massively important to me, im wondering how many here are all around stronger than i am? i want to know how im doing so far - if you would like to post your lifts that be great, but please also post if you have used gear, and your height, weight, age, experience etc

experience - 1 year 3 months <-- newbie
age - 20
height - 6 foot 5 <--- that is very tall..
weight - 240lbs <-- thats okay for your height if its lean
used steroids? no <-- Must have some good genetics since your a newbie as far as im concerned

>all lifts raw + beltless<
Deadlift - 442lbs <-- odd.. most people do less on this then they do on a squat
full squat - 310lbs <-- really bad concidering your pressing so much more not to mention it doesnt weigh much more then you.
dumbbell row - 142lbs x 17
hammer strength power shrug - 320lbs x 17 <-- this could go up more BTW thats an odd number most would concider you a liar.. who puts on 3 plates and a 2 1/2 lb plate lmao
standing calf raise - 507lbs x 17 <--- 507?? what the hell kind of number is that? Again you sound like a liar...
standing strict press - 150lbs <-- 150lbs? so your telling me again your using a 2 1/2 lb plate?
push press - 200lbs
power curl - 191lbs x 4 <-- 191? im starting to think your an idiot thats not even a possible number on the free weights they dont make 1lb weights or 1/2 lb weights.
close grip bench press - 177lbs x 6 <--- Strange number again
rope crunch - 270lbs x 13 <--- Its on a cable i can understand that
dumbbell side bend - 142lbs x 10 <--- I have never seen a 142 lb dumbell
pull ups - bodyweight x 4
towel grip hold - bodyweight x 58 seconds



Judging by your numbers they are made up or your not using an olympic set but I have never seen any at home weight set hold more then 200 lbs.

You have officially been called a fake

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 12:53:47 PM   
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Lmao i should have asked for a picture of a 142lb dumbell Smile

This guy hasnt touched a dumbell in his life he probably jumped on a couple crappy machines and thought he was a bad ass lol. How much lean muscle could you possibly have at 240 and 6'5 only working out for a little more then a year lol.. I seriously doubt you have even worked out that long if you didnt know dumbells go up by 5 not 2 Smile

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 12:55:50 PM   
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twisted - thanks, 330-340 would probably be the most i could full squat if i did a full on max, no chance 365 yet, thats pretty strong

pd81 - cheers man, an nice squatting

old navy - 225 x 30 is pretty badass for anyone, but for someone in there 60's its just awesome

p.s i just hit 5 pull ups after you guys motivated me! 5 x 5 next workout :-)

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:14:13 PM   
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Strength is very impt to me to i'm 21 years old i got in a wreck about 10 months ago and had a hip replacement and had a rod put in my femur so my strength in my legs is gone after my wreck i gained 36 lbs of fat!!! cause all i did was sit around on my ass and eat depressed but then I ran into a buddy i used to work out with and he straight up said your getting fat man. that was it i decided to say i can overcome my wreck and i have been working out again hard for about 6 months and i have seen crazy increases in my strength sincei came back

height: 5'10"
Weight: now 216 then 225
Bench: 355 then 265
incline bench2 290 then 225
Pull ups 5x5 then 1 sad still not good but comin along
dips: my weight with added 90 lbs 3 times before my weight 10 times
supplements: i take superpump 250 and size on kick ass stack
Gnc mega men vitamen
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i don't know but iwould like some feedback on what you think of my progress

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:14:46 PM   
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Lmao i should have asked for a picture of a 142lb dumbell Smile

This guy hasnt touched a dumbell in his life he probably jumped on a couple crappy machines and thought he was a bad ass lol. How much lean muscle could you possibly have at 240 and 6'5 only working out for a little more then a year lol.. I seriously doubt you have even worked out that long if you didnt know dumbells go up by 5 not 2 Smile

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I wondered a little about the odd weight numbers on his sets, but decided to give him the benefit of the doubt until proved otherwise.   I have kept a daily journal on this and other sites for about two years.  All of my weights and increases in weights are recorded.  I have never seen a one pound plate or a 142 pound dumbbell either. LOL

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:24:39 PM   
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ibendbarbells - leanish year 12% body fat, i have been as much as 262 but was at 18%. I dont consider myself to have any freak genes or owt like that, i was 170 something an pretty fat before training

most people dont do squats to be honest about it, but if they do both deads an squats, deads are usually more but not by much

yeh my full squat is not so good, i never do a true 1rm, another 20-30lbs in the tank on that but its something i need to work on i agree

507lbs is the 180kg stack plus a 25kg plate each side - 230 x 2.2046 = 507.058, rounded is 507

150lbs is a 7.5kg bar plus 8 7.5kg plates plus two 0.5lb locks - 67.5 x 2.2046 = 148.81 + 1 = 149.81, rounded off is 150lbs

191lbs is a 45lb plate, and a 10kg plate (actually weighed 45lbs between them, not 44), an a 45lb bar, plus a 2.5kg lock each side (11lbs between them) - 45 + 45 +45 + 45 +11 = 191

177lbs is two 15kg plates on each side of a 20kg bar, with 2 locks weighing 1lb between them - 80kg x 2.2046 = 176.368 + 1 = 177.368, rounded is 177

142 is a 65kg dumbbell, which is supposed to be 143lbs, but it actually weighed 142

i weigh everything i use (all ya gotta do is bring the scales 1 time), an do not lie about anything to do with this 

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:26:06 PM   
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142lbs is 65kg, maybe he has Kg sets



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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:27:19 PM   
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Ah he beat me to it.

Yeah Kg is messed up when converting to lbs

example being in america the big plates are 45lbs, here they are 20kg= 44lbs, so your 135lbs becomes our 132lbs, then 143, then 154, then 165, then 176, then 187, then 198 etc.
Makes weird numbering

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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:39:17 PM   
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RE: are you stronger than me? - 1/11/2007 1:44:24 PM   
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Well i have been proven wrong Smile Yeah thats correct although your KG to LB's is a little off it makes more sense to me now. 12% BF so basically your just a big person.

Well then I am sorry

Your a freak... A total freak... But those numbers could improve. You need to start working on those Squats and when your doing those deadlifts Be sure you have proper form if its that much more then your squats you may be doing more then you can handle and curving your back.


Well now that I have appologized and have established your converting KG to LBS here are mine in comparison to yours:

Deadlift - 442lbs -- Not sure dont have the right bar for it
full squat - 310lbs -- 315lbs on a free bar alot more on a smith
dumbbell row - 142lbs x 17 - 110lbs x 8
hammer strength power shrug - 320lbs x 17 - 335 but only for 6
standing calf raise - 507lbs x 17 - I have no clue
standing strict press - 150lbs - 135lbs but thats not my max
push press - 200lbs - Not sure what you mean Bench? 295lbs on the flat
power curl - 191lbs x 4 - 135 x 3 <-- not sure though possibly more
close grip bench press - 177lbs x 6 <-- 185 x 8
rope crunch - 270lbs x 13 <-- not sure
dumbbell side bend - 142lbs x 10
pull ups - bodyweight x 4 <-- Id be lucky to get 8 - 10
towel grip hold - bodyweight x 58 seconds

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