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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/14/2006 4:00:15 PM
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IBendBarbells
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They just see you getting bigger then when you cut and your bf% drops and you get ripped peoples minds just revert to "oh he must be on roids". It's kind of annoying and insulting that they don't understand the hard work and dedication but at the same time almost a compliment because they're noticing you're getting ripped. lol
Aye personally i do use them and ill probably use them again in the future after i get more of my own natural gains... I never had high goals though to be honest never wanted to be jacked just average size with alot of cuts... I gained 20 natural and 35 un natural. I am a little larger then the average man and fairly cut its pretty much what i wanted although now i have reconciderd what i wanted and ill gain 10 - 20 lbs again natural and probably another 20lbs un natural <-- since there is no way i can un naturally gain 35lbs again unless i take a crap load of steroids of which i cant afford. if i take them again ill have to spend 1300 since im basically ammune to it now.
steroids are not all they are cracked up to be though trust me... if you dont know how to train right if you dont eat enough which if your on steroids you will want to eat even more so then you would naturally since your body will do more with it and the phsycological affects of the steroids will make you want to eat more regardless because everytime you look in the mirror your even more vain... you worry about your size... about being small... Bigorexia is felt right away when you start using steroids. Anyway but if you cant train right and diet right you will gain 10 lbs screw **** muscle receptors and lose the gains right away after.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/14/2006 4:02:15 PM
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IBendBarbells
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BTW no one ever accuses me of taking steroids they just say he eats soo much! no wonder he is getting big soo fast.. everytime anyone comes to my desk at work im eating. steaks pasta chicken rice.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/14/2006 4:05:13 PM
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ianthegreat
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Probably the only half way decent way of telling is if you actually see them everyday, see their gains, and know what they are eating.. an excessive amount of lean body weight noticable over a month, to me, is a give away. Now granted, supps and diet can attribute to this. It's impossible to be certain about some random you do not interact with on a regular basis.
Again, you can only stipulate.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 10:50:08 AM
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BTW it works the opposite the people you have not seen in a while are like whoa you got big fast! dude! how did that happen! and the people you see everyday are like is it just me or do you look bigger i cant really tell... if you see someone everyday its hard to notice that they are gaining. just like its hard to see it in your self. Like pure natural said of which he is right. you can not change your muscle structure like the way you are shapped. you can only add bulk muscle to your frame and cut around it.. When you grow its not like your forming new muscles out of no where. You grow all around, everywhere.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 1:44:56 PM
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ianthegreat
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My fault, I meant a cycle, not a month... as far as my buddies are concerned, who iIdo see everyday, I have noticed quite a change. 3 months is not a long time at all.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 2:19:14 PM
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IBendBarbells
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A teenager just getting into body building shouldnt have any problems gaining 20 - 25 lbs in 3 - 4 months. Unless they are some kind of hard core ecto morph but even then 10 - 15 should be accomplished.
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 2:32:02 PM
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Not to hijack the thread or anything, Vaughn, but your sig says 6' 199Lb. What were your stats in that avatar shot?
Do you still look that huge at 199?
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 2:37:18 PM
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Avaric3
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Veg, i dont think he does now, because i think he injured himself and hasnt worked out in about 3-4 weeks
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RE: how do you tell natural and not natural - 11/15/2006 2:51:48 PM
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Right so then I wouldn't see much bigger gains if I started taking roids since I'm 19?
Also don't your balls shrink noticably if you take anything with test? I would think that would be a way to tell if nothing else then.
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Actually to be honest you gain like you did before you reached your platue no faster no slower. My buddy who just started working out again has put on the same weight as me in the same amount of time but he is 20 years old and really hasnt worked out as hard as im pushing him.. I was on steroids he wasnt. There truly is no way to tell. Someone with good genetics or someone who is young 18 - 20 is going to gain at the same rate of speed as someone on steroids.. this is the reason that Vaughn is basically calling you a bunch of idiots because your putting steroid users into some media steriotype.
