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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 2:38:51 PM
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Monkey22
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Well what about 1 aday for 30 days ? Iv Heard alot of good about this product and am thinking about doing the 1 for 30 days. The supplement guy says that i can do that cycle with some thistle and come off of it with some liver RX and Nolva. Will this be enough ?
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 2:46:22 PM
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Toolman - first of all let me say that when you get later on in life, you will wish that you looked younger than what you really are.
now there is no one here that can tell you what you have done, or at what level your body will recover - but there are very smart people here that can tell you what to do to, to try and get your body back to where you were.....I would strongly suggest that you take their advice at whatever cost to you, wether it be money or you have to tell your parents they need to buy this stuff for you or get you to a doctor. Embarassement is short lived, money and pride will return. Just do whatever needs to be done to get you back to where you need to be.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 2:49:37 PM
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thats why they created e-bay
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 2:53:44 PM
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tdf700
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ok having said all that I already placed an order for the product (of course I am 37 years old and may not be the smartest dude around but I have looked into the products I need)
Here is what my plans are for my cycle - any comments and suggestions would be appreciated
Anabolic Xtreme Perfect Cycle Liver Support 90
Webber Pharm Sostonol 250 Mass Building 60 Caps
Designer Supplements XCeed (Pre-Workout) 360 gr
Lemon Blast
Cytosport Complete Whey Protein 5 lbs Cookies n
Creme
Universal Nutrition Animal Paks
my pct
Serious Nutrition Solutions Ultimate PCT Stack
Inhibit-E, Reduce, Trib625
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 3:42:37 PM
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Absolute0
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Shrinkage happens in 4 days!?!
shyt man that sucks
if i were you i'd discontinue them and use some nolva
if you don't have the nolva on hand... that sucks. You should have it on hand... rule #1 is to have PCT on hand before the cycle starts.
Here's the recommended read
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=519245
< Message edited by Absolute0 -- 11/6/2006 3:59:26 PM >
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 4:44:20 PM
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It's not bad shrinkage.... They're slightly smaller, and they aren't very warm anymore, like the bloodflow stopped going down there. I'm not trying to be gross, and I wouldn't lie about something like this, but I'm gonna quit takin' 'em and continue with the milk thistle.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 7:28:31 PM
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read this...
C:\Documents and Settings\Mike\My Documents\Superdrol for Dummies - Bodybuilding_com Forums.htm
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 7:31:03 PM
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fukc, it didnt work ill just paste the whole shyt......
SUPERDROL FOR DUMMIES (i know ur not on SD but all ph's are similar, same **** really)
I have compiled a few commonly asked questions new users ask before getting into superdrol . Please note that this thread is by no means makes you completely knowledgeable. I am not a guru on superdrol and have no hands on experience with this ph so please do not take this as the beacon of knowledge.
I am 18, I have had 4 years plus lifting experience, I feel I’ve reached a plateau and want to use superdrol:
I’ve heard this question over and over and would to prevent all those below 21 who want to use superdrol, or any other ph under the age of 21. This is basically inhibiting your body’s natural production of testosterone. Between the ages of 18 thorough 21, males experience the highest test production. If you feel you want to supplement, I would strongly suggest you look for Test boosters, like tribulus and 6oxo. Please note that this has nothing to do with your lack of so called maturity or the feeling that youngsters are careless. This is scientific and numerous studies have been performed in this regard.
I have just got my superdrol , how do I use it?
The safest way to use superdrol is to keep the dosage low. Start with a low dose and work your way up if you can handle the sides. All over the boards you can find people using superdrol up to high doses of 40mg. I would suggest the following cycle.
Week 1 – 10mg
Week 2 – 20mg
Week 3 - 20mg
I would personally never recommend over 20mg. 3 week cycles are proven to be safe and effective.
What times of the day do I take superdrol?
SD has a low half life, around 6-10 hours therefore make sure you plan your intake every 6-8 hours.
Different people have different opinions to this question. From what I've seen, the over all consensus is to take the first dose in the morning with an empty stomach with loads of water.
The next with your preworkout meal with good fats like EFA's , Flax and fish oils, peanut butter. Superdrol takes a heavy toll on your lipid profile. A carb and fat rich meal would somehow help a little bit here. This is my opinion, others differ with it. Preworkout superdrol gives awesome pumps during the workout/weight training routine.
Does superdrol require a PCT?
Like every ph on the block SD needs a PCT.
Give me a sample superdrol PCT.
wk1: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 3 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk2: 40mg Nolva, 600 6oxo, 4 fenugreek caps, DHEA 200mg
wk4: 20mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 5 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
wk3: 10mg Nolva, 300 6oxo, 6 fenugreek caps, DHEA 100mg
Is 6oxo and Rebound XT good enough by itself for a superdrol PCT, most people say it is enough
No! By no means is 6oxo or Rebound standalone strong enough to restart the test production in your body. You need a SERM! Period!
Nolvadex is therefore ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY for an superdrolcycle. Please note its Nolvadex not novedex or nolvedex. Please look for Tamoxifen Citrate.
You can also use Clomid, some users feel this is good as clomid does a lot of good to your lipid profile.
Sample Clomid PCT
Day 1- 300mg
Week 1- 100mg
Week 2- 75mg
Week 3- 50mg
Clomid has worked excellently for me therefore I stop it in 3 weeks. It takes care of any testicular atrophy that may arise on cycle. Please do not use clomid for prolonged periods of time, it is detrimental.
You can look into combo cycles with both Nolva and Clomid in my PCT thread.
If budget permits you can also look into NAC.
Does running milk thistle along side superdrol inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct.
What are other good supplements I can run along side superdrol to combat side effects?
Red Yeast Rice- A fermented rice product, that is our best fighter against negative sides form AAS concerning cardiovascular damage. Comprised of nine different monacolins, which are naturally occurring substances that help regulate cholesterol levels. Along with sterols, and monounsaturated fatty acids, it packs a strong punch.
Dosage : 1.2g ED
COQ10- Although this is abundant in food sources, I feel it prudent to put on here. Not only does it show to help cardiac function, but it’s also imperative to be used with Red Yeast Rice. Can be used in combination with other cholesterol lowering supplements.
Celery Seed- A powerful anti-oxidant, shown to not only lower blood pressure, but may have cancer fighting properties as well. And there is evidence to show its ability in aiding the liver.
Hawthorne Berry: Also very useful to lower BP and keep it on check. A great on cycle supplement.
Dosage 1000mg ed on cycle.
Policosanol- A blend of fatty alcohol’s, shows great promise in its use as beneficial to cardiovascular health, to include the maintenance of healthy lipid profiles. There is also some theory to a synergistic affect with EFA’s.
Dosage : 20mg 2x a day
Saw Palmetto: The prostrate is one delicate part of your system that you do not want to affect under any circumstances.
SP @ 320mg/day
Primaforce ProLiver or Liv52.
Sesathin
These supplements are very necessary ON cycle as well as in the PCT.
I took superdrol, its 2 weeks up, I still don’t see any change. Why?
Well, its not superdrol’s fault, there is some mistake on your part.
SD will not work if your lipid profile is all haywire.
Most people underestimate the simple dictum of eating heavy and eating right. Please make sure that your calorics are adjusted to your body weight and height. I do not need to comment on your nutrition, but make sure that you take in 1.7-2g of Protein /lb of body weight.Roughly around week 2.5 through 4 you should start gains of 1lb/day.
Make sure your carbs and EFA’s are at a maximum
You need to drink @ least 1.5 gallons of water while on superdrol.
My cycle is over, I have to keep my gains, how do I do it.
If you want to keep your gains, make sure you take nolvadex. You will lose a little bloat/size due to water retention. Its good to take creatine and nitrous based compounds or cell volumisers at this point to keep your gains. I have not used CEE, but am looking to do so in the near future.
I had a very satisfying cycle, my pct made me recover fine, I want to get back into another cycle.
Well,this is something I've seen in many people, the temptation to use m1t and superdrol. Sure it does give good results, but you've gotta understand that you have a life apart from bbing. Imho make sure you give a full two month gap between cycles. After all you've got just one liver to use for a lifetime.
I do not know where to get the necessary supplements/ chems for my PCT.
Please do not ask on the forums for sources. I will try to help you through secure mail or pm’s. READ! Most experienced users in their logs mention the brands of nolva they use, if some just had the sense to google them……………
What are the important things I should know about Research Chemicals?
15.2 grams of Tamoxifen Citrate equal 10mg of Tamoxifen (nolvadex)
If a research Liquid manufactuer were unaware of this, and they suspend 10mg of Tamoxifen Citrate in 1 ml of solution and claimed a dosage of 10mg of Tamoxifen/ml then it would be underdosed to the tabs.
Of course if they claimed 10mg of Tamoxifen and added 15.2 grams of Tamoxifen citrate then they would be giving the correct dose of then 10mg of Tamox/ml relative to the tabs.
If they say 10mg of Tamoxifen citrate there not lying about the dose, it's jus not as much as the 10mg tabs of nolvadex.
NOLVADEX_ (tamoxifen citrate) Tablets, a nonsteroidal antiestrogen, are for oral administration. NOLVADEX Tablets are available as:
10 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 15.2 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 10 mg of tamoxifen.
20 mg Tablets. Each tablet contains 30.4 mg of tamoxifen citrate which is equivalent to 20 mg of tamoxifen.
So whatz the math?
0.5ml= 7mg tamoxifen
1.0ml=14mg
1.5ml=21mg
2.0ml=28mg
2.5ml=35mg
3.0ml=42mg
3.5ml=49mg
4.0ml=56mg
4.5ml=63mg
5.0ml=70mg
I am not a doctor and neither do my opinions construe medical advice. These are just my views after using and researching about this product and answering a number of queries from users who were as confused as me when I first started it.
The superdrol checklist :
Superdrol 10/20/20
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed
PCT:
SERM :Nolvadex 40/30/20/10
AI :R-Xt or 6oxo
Prostrate:Saw Palmetto 325mg
DHEA 200/200/100/100
Fenugreek
Clomid (optional)
RYR 1.2g ed
Milkthistle 1000mg
Hawthorne Berry 1000mg
CoQ10
Policosinol- 20mg 2x ed
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 7:41:35 PM
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Everybody should be required to read that before posting in any supplement section and getting crazy ideas.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/6/2006 11:08:34 PM
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VaughnTrue
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ORIGINAL: toolman4052
I know, I should've listened, but I didn't. Would you wanna hear that you shouldn't take sumthing after you spent a lot of money on it?
if it meant i'd remain healthy...i wouldn't have cared. a life is NOT something to mess with.
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ORIGINAL: toolman4052
It's not bad shrinkage.... They're slightly smaller, and they aren't very warm anymore, like the bloodflow stopped going down there. I'm not trying to be gross, and I wouldn't lie about something like this, but I'm gonna quit takin' 'em and continue with the milk thistle.
you cant just continue on with milk thistle...why arent you listening? Get your hands on 6-oxo NOOOWWWWWWW. then...IMMEDIATLY order tamoxifen citrate online aka "nolvadex". take it at 40mg/day for the first week 20mg/day for the 2nd week and you should be fine. some people might say a more gradual step down of nolva ie 40/30/20/10 is better, but because its only about a week of the stuff, 2 weeks should be ok. Do whichever you choose.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/7/2006 1:06:10 PM
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the gains you'll recieve will be too convincing. now this is for the PH knowledgable members, doesnt it affect bone structure? A guy at my gym went on, gains are amazing but his face looks more structured, more square i guess. this true?
PH's will not change your bone structure like that.. its GH that does that for instance Yao the basketball player has a GH problem his body never stoped releasing it from the putiatary "<-- sorry illiterate ;)" gland.
Some BodyBuilders will take excessive amounts of HGH a drug that synthetically enhances GH levels in your body and they suffer from forehead growth a change in jaw structure and their fingers can even grow longer.
From what ive heard, Testosterone can also change your bone structure. Ent Test, or testosterone enanthanate*sp*, can have a profound effect on the bodies structure from what i've researched. I may be mistaken, but that is what ive learned from the nutrition section of my personal trainers manual.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/7/2006 1:10:29 PM
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johnnyb1635
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I have just got my superdrol , how do I use it?
The safest way to use superdrol is to keep the dosage low. Start with a low dose and work your way up if you can handle the sides. All over the boards you can find people using superdrol up to high doses of 40mg. I would suggest the following cycle.
The safest way to use a bottle of Superdrol is as a paper weight.
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/7/2006 1:18:16 PM
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IBendBarbells
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Oh about that running the nolva i said the problem has gone away well it kind of has its not getting bigger and its not painful. It probably just begun to shrink. But anyways by anymeans take nolva if your having problems right now. It usually takes a while for your body to shut off its own natural production i believe though... Even after a cycle sometimes people use small amounts of dbol just to spike their test levels while their body doesnt recognize the spike and keeps producing test.. But they cant spike it to often in a week and they cant spike it forever.
everyone did warn you not to take the superdrol though... maybe the fact that you realized your under developed for your age and have lower test levels because of it made you think.
I dont think anyone truly knows all the bad side affects of messing with a teenagers hormones... I guess its almost like giving a 5 year old crack and watching how his brain developes just kidding ;).
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/8/2006 5:48:57 PM
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Just out of curiosity I noticed that there wasn't a mg dosage listing for the COQ-10... anyone know how much?
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/8/2006 8:35:25 PM
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MuscleMachine14
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toolman,
i really dont understand why you would take a chance f****** up your body with this stupid s*** just to put on 15 points. until about a month ago, i was stuck in the low 170's and just couldn't gain weight. i began eating more than i ever have and i take CytoGainer before i go to bed know with 40 oz of milk, which all adds up about 1000 calories, and i weighed myself in the other day at 179.5. I put on probably 7 lbs of lean mass just from eating, and i am not lying. i stay at 5-7% body fat all year round and pretty much only put in muscle. for those who do not believe me, i can see striations in my triceps, biceps, chest, and very clear separation in my deltoids. You don't need to take that poison to grow, all you have to do is eat and train hard.
i considered roids at one point, and thought about it, and realized i don't want to f** up my body, i like it running smoothly and efficiently. if i ever would try them, it would be probably 10-15 years from now when i simply hit a plateau that is impossible for me to break. otherwise, ill stick to the protein and preworkout supps.
good luck with everything. remember you only get one body so dont f*** up what you got
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RE: Sostonal 250 - 11/8/2006 10:09:24 PM
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toolman4052
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I know, I know, I know. I quit taking 'em and I'm on nolvadex and milk thistle now. It's all good.
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Supplementation, in order of priority : FOOD, WATER, Cytosport Muscle Milk Creamy Vanilla (.5 scoops before bed), MRM Creatine Monohydrate (5g/day w/in 30 minutes POSTworkout), Spring Valley Fish Oil (2g/day), Nature Made Magnesium (250mg @ beginning of workout), Spring Valley Calcium (600mg @ beginning of workout)
Currently: 5'9.5", 190 lbs, 9% bf
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Ultimate Goal: 5'9.5" 200 lbs. 8% bf
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basically. 
So im a dirty bulker 
But anyways its only 2 days i only lost 1 lb - 2 lbs ill gain it back. BTW you have to get use to consuming that much food... You can lose it fast with a small change in diet especially if your an ecto morph. 
