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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 8:42:52 PM
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twistedlink
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These bench threads always cause trouble, mainly because everytime one is created a new member appears with a really high benchpress, bitch fighting ensues, pictures are sometimes put up, videos are said to be possible, injuries ALWAYS present in the high bencher when asked to make the video, excuses then ensue, the bench figures get less and less, after the month this process usually goes through the high bencher has usually stopped posting and never returns, and if they do they use the good old "my camera broke" BS.
This site hasnt had a decent high bencher video ever from my knowledge, and i would know, i practically live here.
Yet the amount of people boasting high benches are many.
I reckon there should just be a sticky benchpress board where everyone can mouth each other off, because everytime one of these is created around 50 new members turn up benching 300+lbs aged 4 1/2 or w/e.
If you can bench 400, thats great, but ive got to say, for someone who has trained for 3 years, you sure do look like a regular xbox nerd that only exercises his wrist.
You dont have any size anywhere, so its hard to believe the bench, and i have to say, the pics do look like youre floating on the bench, also your arching is seriously bad, your spine might be fine, but your decline benching, which can raise the figure a lot.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 9:16:02 PM
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SupraTurbo
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Alright man, keep talking, keep talking. That is fine with me. That just makes it for better ownage in the end. You obviously think that I am a poser who is making excuses and can't handle the weight, but you will see. Hopefully, I will have a video up sometime next week. I am not like your other ****gots who won't show proof. But anyways, you act like you know a lot about benching. How much can you bench? A 100lbs on a good day?
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 9:22:24 PM
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SupraTurbo
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Oh geez, nevermind. I found out for myself. Wow. A whole damn 140lbs! Great job man! You have a lot of room to be critiqueing others on their bench. It's funny because I can curl that like 20 times. Please, if you are going to criticize somebody on something, do it at something that you are good at! Apparently, you suck at benching. My fat 13 year old brother can do that no sweat. What does that tell you? I think your the one who needs to lay off the X-Box games.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 9:28:36 PM
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These bench threads always cause trouble, mainly because everytime one is created a new member appears with a really high benchpress, bitch fighting ensues, pictures are sometimes put up, videos are said to be possible, injuries ALWAYS present in the high bencher when asked to make the video, excuses then ensue, the bench figures get less and less, after the month this process usually goes through the high bencher has usually stopped posting and never returns, and if they do they use the good old "my camera broke" BS.
This site hasnt had a decent high bencher video ever from my knowledge, and i would know, i practically live here.
Yet the amount of people boasting high benches are many.
I reckon there should just be a sticky benchpress board where everyone can mouth each other off, because everytime one of these is created around 50 new members turn up benching 300+lbs aged 4 1/2 or w/e.
If you can bench 400, thats great, but ive got to say, for someone who has trained for 3 years, you sure do look like a regular xbox nerd that only exercises his wrist.
You dont have any size anywhere, so its hard to believe the bench, and i have to say, the pics do look like youre floating on the bench, also your arching is seriously bad, your spine might be fine, but your decline benching, which can raise the figure a lot.
what do you mean I posted my video repping 255 lbs..  I thought it made it look pretty easy too.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 9:28:38 PM
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Ok, you can believe what you want. That is fine with me. I don't really care if you think the pictures are fake or not. And I don't know where you got 405 from, because I clearly said 400. Anyways, I will have to get a video up here after I heal, because I can't do much of anything right now. It probably won't be of anything that close to 400, since I don't really want to put any additional stress on my sternum than necessary. It will probably be of 300-350 or so. You will definetely get the point. Anyways, I am glad that you are proud of your 210lbs. Good for you. And no, the point of this thread wasn't to shame on those who did less than me or anyone, but was the point of this thread to act like a ****got and say the maxes of others is bs? This thread definetely went off track though, so keep it on track and I will get my video up as soon as I can.
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Yeah, whatever. Please post footage, maybe it would make you feel better.
What I'm saying is you are practically levitating off the bench in one of your pics. And the outline of your body and the lighting in the pic where you have a sweater is a dead giveaway.
No, 173 lbs doing 405 lbs is nearly impossible. You'd almost be national news. And you'd be shredded as hell, yet your pics show that you look like cottage cheese.
Hey, prove me wrong. I'd be happy to say I was. But Im not.
And by the way, I'm proud of my 210lbs. Is the point of this thread to shame those who can't do as much as others? And 210lbs is good for a 160lb slim guy like me. Good, not great. Would be more if I wasnt missing a muscle in my right pectorial. And Im not a bodybuilder, just a cyclist who went online for exercise advise and found this article.
Keep talking. This is my last post, and Im not one of those who say that then post a million times in defense after. Like I said, I only registered because I know your're BS, not because I THINK you are.
Why should I bother? Because its pitifiul to see people lie about insignificant numbers just so posters can pat you on the back. How would someone who weighed 173 and can only bench his body weight (which is still good) feel when they read your post? Doesnt matter if they eat cannonballs for breakfast, its discouraging.
400 or 405, whatever. 5 pound difference.
Go ahead, post your little video. I bet it'll be shady and dark as hell, taken at a lousy angle, on someone you looked 3 weeks for to pose for your video.
Calling me a ****got is only strengthining the case that your just some punk myspace kid with too much time on his hands.
And don't patronize me. You wouldnt scare me one bit, even if you could bench 400lbs. 210 max is by no means weak, and just proves the fact you are trying to make yourself look good.
But more to the point:
In my opinion, being able to bench your own weight OR at least 225 qualifies you as strong. Most ppl DO NOT work out, so even the posters with max's in the 100's are on the right path.
You want to know the average max an american male claims to bench? 155lbs. And americans are big people on average.
I think the purpose of this thread was to encourage the younger lifters. I know all I was doing before I read supraturbos post was finding my weight in the post and seeing what their max was. And the reason I risk blowing the thread up is because I KNOW (not THINK) someone is working against that.
Like I said, this is the last post I'm making, so good luck to all your fitness goals.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/24/2007 11:11:24 PM
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There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with SupraTurbo's bench form. It's like powerlifter's form, but who cares.... 390 LBS!!! Shoot, My back would be up there too with that much weight, lol.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 6:23:14 AM
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dont get me wrong bendbarbells, youre strong, but when i say high bench figures im talking 350lbs + for reps, because 255lbs is believable.
Actually supraturbo my max is now along the lines of 120lbs, and ive been training for nearly as long as you, thats why i dont believe you, because i increase my bench by 10lbs ish, and you increase it to 400lbs.
Something aint quite right there, you know what i mean?
at 166lbs i managed a legitimate 365lbs squat, thats 2.2 times my BW.
I could also deadlift 265-285lbs for one good form lift.
This is after 4-5 months of training.
Im not weak overall, my lifts for my weight are above average, its just my benchpress that sucks.
Hell i can do proper training form (10-12 reps) bentover barbell rows at 145lbs, but i cant bench 145lbs for **** anymore.
Ridethelightning, its ashame you wont post anymore, you seem a decent guy.
Supra, ive heard these lines before, everytime someone says they can bench loads this happens, and they say the same stuff over and over, if you can bench 400lbs, thats great, all im saying is i dont believe you til i see a video.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 7:08:39 AM
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SupraTurbo
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Alright man. Thats cool. Don't worry about it. Lets stop this argument for now and let others post their maxes. I will be posting videos as soon as my dang sternum heals. You probably think that is a gay excuse, but believe me, it's not. If it wasn't messed up, I would get that video right now. Oh and thanks toolman4052, your the only one who sees it from my perspective.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 4:40:53 PM
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Little Boy, do you think Bodybuilders are dumb. Are you so insecure about yourself, that you need to post fake statistics about things you dream of doing but don't actually have the resolve to do yourself. I am sure you have nothing better to do than make up things to post all over the web, because you have done nothing but play your xbox out there in hicksville, PA; because that is exactly what you are doing here.
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Okay, you guys are dumb as crap. Yeah, those pictures of me are totally fake and I am not 15. I thought it would be funny to modify those pictures and post them everywhere and waste my life, yeah sure.
That is an admission SON, not a defense.
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Everyone in my town could set you straight, and I have broke school weightlifting records in my area.
these are the national and international power lifting records, click the links, that I am sure is all your good at doing.
A high school
http://www.powerliftingca.com/KernCountyHighSchoolPowerliftingRecords.pdf
world records your age class
http://records.powerlifting.org/world/?lan=en&gender=M&age=sjun
And just in case you can't convert KG into LBS
http://www.usapowerlifting.com/records/national/men-teen.htm
http://www.usapowerlifting.com/records/national/men-teen.htm
If your so good, and actually lifted what you said you did you would have known your lift is close to the world record (18 and under), and shatters the national record (14 to 15 year old), not just your high school record.
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Thehardway and RideTheLightning, you guys are going to find out here real soon that I am not bs. I am going to post up some videos of me doing some real heavy weight and prove you guys wrong. Hopefully I will get some up here shortly, but it might be a couple weeks since I just f'd up my sternum doing weighted dips.
Post the video, I DARE YOU. I would hazard to say we will never hear from you again. Well you'll respond to this, perhaps. Messed up your sternum, doing dips?? Come on pick a muscle or a tendon, to have damaged, at least that would be believable; not bone and cartilage.
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I find it funny that whenever someone young is benching a lot of weight, everyone calls it bs just because they are jealous and will never be able to do that much in their life.
I am a women. I don't compare my lifts with men, I don't need my ego stroked, I know what I am capable of, and the further I look into your story the more confident I become. quote:
Thehardway, I think that you need to get a new job, because apparently, you suck at what you do, because you can't tell real pictures from fake pictures.
If those pics aren't faked then that is not you. I never said that I was a forensic scientist who studies the validity of photographs. I said I have an above average and highly trained eye and hand. Your photo doesn't add up, period! I am a fine artist, who has shown, sold, freelanced, taught, and has been a gallery installer as well. I am paid for the keenness of my eye.
My full time job revolves around construction. I am paid to figure out who is trying to get over on me and my building, and stop it from happening. I am very GOOD at what i do and I can smell s***, from miles away, and boy do you stink. I have saved tens of thousands of dollars, and prevented major damage from happening in the future, by catching "cons", and slip shot craftsmanship. I bully contractors and engineers; they don't bully me, so if you think I am going to let some 15 year old kid make a mockery out of something that these people take very seriously you got another thing coming.
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Also, RideTheLightning, I think I am going to get a video up of me doing your max (210lbs) about 30-40 times so you feel like ****. That may be harsh, but I just get pissed off at these people who always try to act like it is impossible and I am bs. You guys will find out real quick.
I would like to see the vid of you pressing my dumbbell max 30-40 times, I don't think you could even do that. That's two 30 lb dumbbells, little boy.
I DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG, I will not post about this again. until i SEE YOUR VIDEO.
iF i AM WRONG i WILL CERTAINLY APPOLOGISE, BUT THAT IS NOT GONNA HAPPEN.
Hell, post your training, even, your diet, something, 11 post all to this thread only?? If you are sooo amazing that you bench 390 at 15 and 170 lbs, you should have lots of wonderful tips to share. What, that's right I forgot you wouldn't have tips because your nothing but a liar.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 5:05:14 PM
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SupraTurbo
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Alright lady, you can think whatever you want. I really do not care. I actually find this pretty amusing since you have all these details for the reasons but actually you are so dead wrong it is ridiculous. I am not going to say anything else here other than that, wait a little while until I recover, and I will have some videos up asap. I really hope that you apologize after that.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 5:06:59 PM
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SupraTurbo
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Oh and btw, what do you mean, if the picture is not fake, then it is not you? How old does the person look in the picture, 24? If you can't tell that is a 15 year old, there is something wrong with you.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 5:53:33 PM
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hey wait a minute i agreed with the power lifter form too! all i said is its more believable if you had a video showing a full motion.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 6:25:54 PM
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SupraTurbo
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Ok, thanks man for agreeing with the form to. Atleast I have a couple people who partially, partially agree with me. I totally agree though about the video, I am definetely going to get one up, trust me. I know that the pictures are real, I took the damn things on self-timer, but whatever, some people just like to be gay about things. I would love to take some vids as we speak, but this sternum injury is not doing to well. The only thing I have as of now video wise, is me doing 340lbs twice easily. The thing is, that is on a camera phone (razor) so it isn't that good of quality. I could get it up though, just as a little teaser. But then, the same people would come on being ****s, like, believe me, I have been in the video business for my whole life, I can tell fake videos from real videos... blah, blah, blah. Obviously thats not him and that is actually some 25 year old... I know how the reactions are going to be. I could get it up anyways though. If I put it up, I will definetley still come back later though with my real camera, counting out weights, better quality, etc. I should be able to figure out how to post it up.
Toby
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 7:16:03 PM
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Alright guys, I guess I will post this crappy quality video up that I have for now. Remember, this was taken from a camera phone, so it isn't good quality. Still, you can tell that it is 340lbs and that it is the same person that is in those pics, me, Toby Cook (15 years old at 170lbs bodyweight). This was at the YMCA where I live at, and this was before I hurt my sternum. The videos on those phones can only be like 15 seconds, so I wasn't going to rep that out as many times as I could, because there wouldn't have been enough time. You can tell in the video that it wasn't that hard for me. Anyways here is the link:
http://video.tinypic.com/player.php?v=4d1t8ow
Now, I know that you same three people or whatever are going to have some gay excuse for why this video is fake. So go ahead, think real hard, because I know you will find something or some reason. Now, that being posted, I know that that video sucks. Believe me, I will get up a better one in about a week, messed up sternum and all. I just wanted to stop some of you idiots that don't know crap, calling me a liar and the woman, a "little boy". No little boys bench that much weight at my age lady. I am sorry to dissappoint you and your stupid reasoning. I will get a better one up soon, and prove you even more wrong. Once again, sorry for the quality.
Toby
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 8:43:27 PM
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incredible! I love it.. It actually did look like you were struggling though.. the first rep looked clean the second rep looked like ****... But who cares! the first rep was great dude!! I love it!
I took a video on the camera phone too and when i put it onto the internet it looked blurred as hell cause you have to convert it to an mpeg.
You have a power lifters technique.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/25/2007 8:53:03 PM
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aye your almost as strong as this chickhttp://www.metacafe.com/watch/326899/female_powerlifter_daniela_sell_from_germany/
Hehehe just kidding this video is actually fake the plates are just designed to look heavy.. They are practice weights for form.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/26/2007 6:01:36 AM
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SupraTurbo
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Thanks a lot man. Like I said, this is really all I have right now. I know it wasn't the greatest, but it will work for now. I will get some new ones up shortly. But that was just a little preview for all you crap-talkers calling me fake and stuff. Especially for the lady, who knows her fake pictures from real pictures, or actually doesn't. Oh, yeah, I know it looked like I was struggling, but on those reps there, I wasn't trying to be as explosive or put it up as fast, I was more trying to just take it slower and just make it a little cleaner. Also, I thought that the second rep was real good too. Maybe its just because it zoomed in and you couldn't get the big picture. That should give an idea though. Anyway you cut it, that was at 170lbs bodyweight and 15 years old, so that is pretty good. BTW, I am still 15. Thanks
Toby
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/26/2007 6:04:59 AM
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Oh geez, I just watched that video you sent me. That is pretty funny. It actually looks like she is benching like 495lbs there..haha. Definetely not the heavy type weights though as you said.
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RE: Max Bench Press - 2/26/2007 8:31:40 AM
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hehe nah its training weights... I felt so weak watching her do it until i realized those were training weights and it was all for show.
Yeah could have been the angle on the second rep but you didnt look like you came down far enough. The first rep was defenently clean..
Its a shame you spent soo much time on bench though in 3 years.. you said thats pretty much all you did..? You should get your squats and deadlifts up there now.
How often did you train your chest? and what kinds of methods did you use to break your platues. I have the feeling you used more of an olympic style of lifting that some concider over training.
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