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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 8/4/2004 8:58:22 PM   
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We (Avant) do tend to cause information overload, but that is only because we want to educate, and not hype.


You're not kidding... I've tried to read Spook's Phenogen article about twelve times now, but there's so much stuff in there that I'm not familiar with that I bog down every couple of paragraphs...

I don't suppose you guys have a Spook For Dummies version of M&M?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 8/4/2004 10:08:06 PM   
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but that is only because we want to educate, and not hype.


That is true. Smile

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 9/16/2004 10:41:28 AM   
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Alright I've completed my cycle of 1-AD and 6 OXO. I'm still very curious to try Leptigen II but I have some questions regarding it's use. The single most important question is "Will it have any adverse effects when used in conjunction with Wellbutrin XL?"

My current stats are
6ft
230lbs
21% BF
Varies from 2200Cal to 2500 Cal max
20% Carb
30% Fat
50% Protein

I have not seen the results I would like to have in the last 6 weeks. I suspect that this has alot to do with my nutrition rather than what I do in the gym. I cycle my carbs to the point I have alot on the weekends and then very little durring the week. One or two days I may not even have any carbs.

Weekends:
I cheat on the weekends and more often that not I eat alot less. When I do it's not the right things. My hunger pains are only heighted by a very severe case of acid reflux disease. Sometimes Nexium doesn't even scratch the surface and I find myself eating just to make the pain stop.

How should I change my diet while using Leptigen II?

Would it be best complimented with Sesathin?

Are there any other important questions that you think I should have asked but didn't?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 11/3/2004 2:45:58 PM   
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zerocygnal what dose were you on?, I have just started on 400mg/day.I am now up to 600mg/day no sides yet.Smile

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 12/30/2004 2:35:51 PM   
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This sounds scary as all hell i wouldnt try this

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 12/30/2004 5:26:54 PM   
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This is one of the dumbbest posts I have ever read.

Care to explain what it is you find "scary as all hell"? Or is it simply the idea of learning that frightens you?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 1/30/2005 3:57:01 AM   
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Out of curiosity, has anyone used this yet? Had good results with it?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/12/2005 7:31:24 AM   
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zerocygnal: do you know if you can get zoton in the states? My dad has the same thing (I think i am growing into it as well Smile). Maybe talk to your doctor bout it.

WRT leptigen...how much is it? for how long etc. So basically what i am getting is that is quells your hunger, and stops the famine response when you go well under the maintenance cals/day...yes?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/12/2005 7:43:04 AM   
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Not so simple.

what you're getting is something that essentially changes your phenotype.

Rebirth can make an endomorph "think" it's an ectomorph/mesomorph. With this, the other issues of appetite, hunger, metabolic slowdown and the like are all catered for.

Mass can make your body "think" i's in a state of overfeeding, only without the calories that are required for this to usually occur, thereby removing the accumulation of fat usually associated with such a state.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/13/2005 11:29:45 AM   
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Don't you all think Rob should offer up a few free bottles of LG MASS, for those who want a clean bulk, to test out how well this works?

I think he should, being new and all.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/14/2005 2:28:34 AM   
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I'd be fine with that providing there is enough interest. A new thread asking for testers, perhaps?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/15/2005 11:01:50 AM   
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Apparently not enough interest, ah well.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/15/2005 12:18:14 PM   
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It would appear so, but i'm pretty sure it's because a lot of members are overlooking this thread.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/15/2005 2:24:15 PM   
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If I wasn't cutting right now I'd be up for it.Smile

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/16/2005 3:23:46 AM   
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Is anyone actually reading this thread?

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/16/2005 5:21:11 AM   
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Yeah mate, I'm reading! I'd be up for trying LG MASS if I'm a suitable candidate. I've only been training for about 4 months though, so I'm not sure if you'd want someone a bit more experienced for the trial.

Anyway, to summarise: I'm a 33 year old ecto, 174lb (up 20lb in all, with 14 of that coming in the first 2 months) with about 9%bf (up from about 7-8%), and work out 3x/week in a 3 day split. I'm eating about 3500 cals/day (pretty clean) with about 200gms protein, about 1/2 of which is from shakes. I'm currently giving creatine a 3 week break, and was going to go back on it next week and see if it makes any difference as I suspect I'm a non-responder.

Let me know if you think I'd be suitable for a trial Smile

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/16/2005 7:34:03 AM   
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Thanks for the interest.

Hopefully there'll be a be more hype aroused about this and there'll be more interest. I'm thinking i may need to start a new thread.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/18/2005 1:49:11 PM   
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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/28/2005 11:30:42 AM   
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Hey,
I don't know if you are still watching this thread, but I have been during a lot of research on Leptigen. I am an endomorph 6'2 250lbs, musclular, but I have a hard time losing fat. It seems everytime I try to cut my metabolism just bottoms out. This product(if it works) sounds like just the thing that could make the difference. I don't know if you are actually looking for people for a test for this forum, if you are I would be very interested. If not I would still be very interested in your thoughts as to what kind of Leptigen would work best? And where I could get a best price on it. Hope to hear from you Robboe.

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RE: Leptigen Hath Arrived - 2/28/2005 1:11:15 PM   
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I replied to your PM.

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