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blahk10
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Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 11:51 AM
Hey guys, i've been researching on Instone's Forza-T, which many of the people I've talked to have considered it to be a steroid. they argue that steriods increase testosterone, as does Forza-T, therefore making it a steroid. someone please give me a detailed definition of a steroid, and if Forza T is a steroid. thanks.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 12:24 PM
Forza T isnt a steriod, whoever told you that is ignorant. however it is a testosterone booster. all it does it boosts your natural test, as apposed to steroids temporarily replacing test.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 12:32 PM
yeah its not a steroid.. but the effect are a small mimic of what a weaker steroid would do lke a winstrol
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 6:56 PM
i have a lot of people taht argue with me, and i don't have anything to back it up. they almost put me down for using it. they say "why cheat when you can do it naturally?" stuff like that that gets on my nerves, i just want to prove them wrong.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 7:52 PM
not certain how old you are but the testosterone boosters have grown in popularity over time. Your friends are unimformed since these stacks are non-hormonal and it layman's terms just helps you maximize your natural testosterone to a greater extent. On of the more popular ones is the Designer Supplement stack of Activate and Rebound Reoloaded. However the recoomendation is one be at least 21 yrs of age before trying
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 9:09 PM
WTF is a steroid? See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steroid There are several ways to increase testosterone levels, or testosterone availability, and they don't all include just adding more testosterone to the body. A testosterone booster can be one that competes with proteins that bind testosterone, rendering it inactive in the body (the idea behind ActivaTe). You can stimulate different systems in the body that feed in to testosterone production. Etc. I don't know what the product you are talking about actually is, but I'm guessing (fairly confidently) that it is not a steroid. See the article which link I posted above.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 9:12 PM
ORIGINAL: blahk10
they say "why cheat when you can do it naturally?" stuff like that that gets on my nerves, i just want to prove them wrong.
Well you can't, because your friends are absolutely right.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 9:31 PM
ORIGINAL: No Quarter
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they say "why cheat when you can do it naturally?" stuff like that that gets on my nerves, i just want to prove them wrong.
Well you can't, because your friends are absolutely right.
I both agree and disagree with that. While some supps have such an effect that they would be considered "cheating", if you want to say "why not do it naturally?" then wouldn't that technically include all supplements?..Something to consider...
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 9:38 PM
ORIGINAL: Rainman
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ORIGINAL: blahk10
they say "why cheat when you can do it naturally?" stuff like that that gets on my nerves, i just want to prove them wrong.
Well you can't, because your friends are absolutely right.
I both agree and disagree with that. While some supps have such an effect that they would be considered "cheating", if you want to say "why not do it naturally?" then wouldn't that technically include all supplements?..Something to consider...
Not really. I've had this debate before, I think that once you use products to play with hormones its not natural anymore. I'm also pretty sure that product in the originial post is also banned from natural bodybuilding
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Monday, September 18, 2006 9:44 PM
Hmm, maybe...I honestly didn't do any research into the product in question before posting, it's late and I felt like saying something...just don't feel like looking up any facts at the moment, lol. If I was wrong, my mistake.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 7:28 AM
I think that once you use products to play with hormones its not natural anymore. I'm also pretty sure that product in the originial post is also banned from natural bodybuilding
Keeping in mind my comments were reserved to non-hormonal products like Activiate/Rebound Reloaded I would have to disagree with your contention. Insulin is a hormone as well. If I was to drink a post workout shake of dextrose or waxy maize to facilitate a high insulin response would that be considered not natural anymore and we should ban those products from natural shows? If I was to take a product like Glucophase or other similar product of ALpha Lipoic Acid to lower the insulin response to carbs, should we also ban? I have competed in various natural organizations. I know some individuals bend the rules greatly and if someone has to use synthetic testosterone, prohormones or designer steroids in their pursuit of a throphy that is just sad. However you start to walk a slippery slope when you talk about a person manipulating natural hormonal levels as "not natural"
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:23 AM
imnot condoning the juice but it depends on what ur tryint go do.. if u wanna be a strong man and potentially risk ur health then go for it.. i personally think there stupid and in the long run proven statistics show them tearing down the liver
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:26 AM
Steroids (the juice) was never mentioned by me.  We are talking about SUPPLEMENTS that are on the market today which are said to boost ones NATURAL production of Testosterone Where did anything I said talk about the use of steroids?
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:24 PM
well well, to answer some questions that i've read, I'm 18, and i don't want to get huge, i wanna be fit, and look good. I'm prolly just going to use Forza T for one interval (6 weeks) then go Natural from there (Whey Protein, Creatine, ETC.) i figure i'll just use Forza T as a kick start. I've lifted for baseball for years without looking the way i wanted. i mean it did the job. but now that i dont play baseball anymore, i thought i'd kick it up a notch. just wanted some feedback on Forza-T and if it was worth it. i have mixed feelings on it. so i'll just use it temporarily.
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RE: Steroid or Not
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Wednesday, September 20, 2006 12:51 PM
juice juice juice haha jk ;)
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