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test booster - Wednesday, September 13, 2006 5:52 PM
if u take a test booster once a day. is it enough to be able to see results by november
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RE: test booster - Wednesday, September 13, 2006 7:50 PM
17-hd
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RE: test booster - Wednesday, September 13, 2006 8:47 PM
will 17-hd mess me up if i use it at age 16?
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RE: test booster - Wednesday, September 13, 2006 9:00 PM

You could see results by november if you took some dedication once a day.
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RE: test booster - Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:09 PM
well i got football practice and everything so i wanna lift 4 days a week and take it just before i lift
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RE: test booster - Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:34 PM
Eb..what do you mean by test booster?
 
 

will 17-hd mess me up if i use it at age 16?

 
17 HD is something made up!  The stuff in the bottle is all herbs...

17- Halo-Methyl-Dianadrone: 400mg (made up of...)
  • Ge Gan (pueraria lobota) <--- HA HA Ha  thats Kudzu!!!! Kudzu contains isoflavones similar to those found in soy. These substances are known to have an estrogen-like effect.
  • Smilax Officinalis - Sarsaparilla!
  • N.O. Oliliacae - <---what the heck!?  Why don't they say what this really is!?

Betaecdysterone  100mg <---herb that comes from various plants including rhaponticum, luzae, and cyanotis vaga and is a naturally occurring phytochemical believed to enhance protein absorption and also enhance nitrogen retention and protein synthesis at 40mg 2-3x a day
Wild yam extract 100mg <--- can help support healthy hormone production
Glabra 100mg <--- Licorice..Digestive aid, anti-oxidant, and adrenal gland support
Phosphatidyl choline 50mg <---Lecithin ..1 gram is the effective dose for endurance sports applications...
Citric acid 50mg <--- Natural Preservative

Can you say HOOPLA...

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RE: test booster - Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:44 PM
LMAO @ dan... no need for a booster at age 16. Working heavy compound movements will help you a lot!
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RE: test booster - Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:53 PM

no need for a booster at age 16. Working heavy compound movements will help you a lot!

 
DITTO!!!
 
You are a test factory....just do those compond movements like he said and EAT to gain!
 
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/For_Gaining_Mass/m_111173/tm.htm
 
 
Kudzu....OMG they finally found a way to make money on that crazy invasive vine!  Make it a BB supplement.
 
We should have an EXPENSIVE Kudzu during workout carb drink!!!
P-17K Maximum Muscle Pump Matrix
Oh..but wait...the estrogen...nevermind...unless we can purify it of the isoflavones
At least it will help you gain weight...he he he
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RE: test booster - Thursday, September 14, 2006 8:56 PM
alright, thanks guys!!
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 8:31 AM
Damn, since I have to start hitting the gym at 6:30 AM instead of noon, I was gonna get a bottle of 17-hd, because I've heard good things about it, that it totally amps you up and helps you lift more and longer. Could the "N.O. Oliliacae" in it just be a lot of caffene? Anyway, thanks for the info on it Dan.
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 8:37 AM
You want amped up and fat loss have a cup of green tea or coffee.
 
Want mass and endurance
Have your creatine, pre workout meal/protein+carb shake, during workout BCAA/carbs, post workout carbs+protein
 
And eat your 6 anabolic meals a day.
 
Energy does not come from pills...it comes from food.
 
Stimulants are not energy.
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 8:44 AM
Good advice. I'm a pretty old guy though(38), do you think an investment in a test booster for someone my age is a good idea? I do get my 6 meals in(around 3400 cals), take creatine and whey protein. However, I'm 6'2, 205lbs, and can't seem to gain more muscle or weight, I'm stuck, is it lack of test because of age?
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 8:56 AM
Lets jsut say I am "older" than you and there are people here older than I am by2 decades..all natural..no special genetics...just straight diet and training with appropriate supplementation to support recovery.
 
Sounds like 3 things really...diet, training, and rest.
 
If you are at a maintenance weight, meaning you are not changinh weight...then you now know how many calories you need at maintenance for 205 pounds.
 
Add 500 quality calories and you should start to see a pound in a week.
 
Every pound increases your metabolism by about 50 calories.
DO NOT do green tea or coffee now..you do not want the metabolism boost..even though it is small.  Also they lower appetite and you need to EAT to grow.
 
What is the nutrient mix you are eating now?
% Protein, carbs and fat?
What is your training like?
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 9:15 AM
I get about 3400 calories, try for 300 grams of protein, 400 g carbs and 65 g of fat, it varies a little each day, but that's pretty much the norm. You say around 4000 calories a day would help me gain? That's a lot of food! But I'll give it a shot, thanks.
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RE: test booster - Friday, September 15, 2006 10:45 AM
Ok thats the probelm!
 
What I am going to say does not apply to EVERYONE..it applies to certain athletes (roughly 13%)
 
Cals 3400
Protein 300 35%
Carbs 400 48%
Fat 65g 17%
 
Maybe you don't know this but this high rate of protein intake also has a metabolic cost...about 300 calories!  PLUS it overstimulates adrenalin and you move more...it is anti-catabolic...
 
The low fat does not support growth very well for someone with your stats...
 
Try the following:
 
Transitional
Cals 3400
Protein 215g 25%
Carbs 425 50%
Fat 95g 25%
 
Optimal
Cals 3400
Protein 130g 15%
Carbs 470 55%
Fat 115g 30%
 
Something you need to know.  Alot of the protein has no place to go...so the body gets very efficient at wasting it.  When you first switch to the lower protein...it will take a week to catch up and stop wasting protein!!!
 
Ways to deal with this...take the week off.  Don't do cardio....take aminos every hour...
 
Another thing...fat will help with hormone production, energy production, an dit will also have a slowing effect on the metabolism.
 
The majority of this fat should be Omega 3!
 
Make the switch gradually if you want...say 1/2 way to the transitional then the transitional then 1/2 way to the optimal, then the optimal...then once you are on the optimal, go a week and see how things go!  If you don't gain much..you can raise the cals 350-500 in the same ratio and go a week.  You should start to see changes again!
 
Your food choices matter as well! So give this a look:
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/For_Gaining_Mass/m_111173/tm.htm
 
Next thing is what does your training look like?
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