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RE: and let it begin... - 9/4/2006 9:53:50 AM   
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i checked and it is hard on the liver. I should be ok though.

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 4:14:56 PM   
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Stupid question.  I have done a search for negative reviews on the formadrol and haven't found any.  Is there a specific reason it would not work for a M1A - M1D stack. 

Next if formadrol will not work this nolvadex, it is Rx only. Is there any pct that will work as well with no Rx?

Forgive my ignorance, I odered the M1A -M1D stack with the milk thistle and the formadrol.  I had not found any negatives.  Just started it so I would like a little input on a good pct without a Rx.  Thanks

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 5:36:17 PM   
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you can get nolvadex online without a prescription.  just poke around the net a lil bit, nolvadex goes by another name tooSmile

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 6:29:45 PM   
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Vaughn, im curious but you have an after cycle pic now? I want to see the improvement

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 7:15:02 PM   
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Look for a site that will sell you Tamoxifen Citrate.  Nolvadex is a must for it keeps your estrogen and aromatase low and where it is supposed to be while aiding in the production of testosterone.

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 8:05:51 PM   
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no after cycle picture yet...the picture i posted was pre-cycle.


on a side note, this cycle has been a HUGE letdown. on a scale of 1-10 on this cycle, id currently give it a 6

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 9:20:18 PM   
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quote:

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on a side note, this cycle has been a HUGE letdown. on a scale of 1-10 on this cycle, id currently give it a 6

From what I've read, gains from M1T are in spurts (1 or 2, quick, dry & explosive), possibly different for M1A (we'll find out soon enough)...

How many mg's are in each of the 3 pills you're taking daily? (1/20mg's=3/60mg's?)

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/6/2006 10:16:12 PM   
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You are not the only one... most ppl who run it i've seen 4-6 ratings.
quote:

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no after cycle picture yet...the picture i posted was pre-cycle.


on a side note, this cycle has been a HUGE letdown. on a scale of 1-10 on this cycle, id currently give it a 6


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RE: and let it begin... - 9/8/2006 6:00:26 AM   
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it has always worked for me. how many pills are you taking. my beNCH HAS WENT UP 20-30%, so far,

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/8/2006 6:31:45 AM   
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i saw some decently results last night with my legwork out...put up some pretty good numbers.

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Bicep : 16"
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Now
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Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/8/2006 1:45:36 PM   
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Why has the cycle let you down. Have you noticed any gains in weight or strength. Are you taking the M 1-d yet or just the alpha?

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/9/2006 5:34:01 PM   
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I have read that taking milk thistle while on this stack is better for your liver.  I have also been told that it will reduce the effectiveness of the stack. 

What is the verdict, thistle for pct only or during cycle?

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/9/2006 5:42:43 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: questions

I have read that taking milk thistle while on this stack is better for your liver.  I have also been told that it will reduce the effectiveness of the stack. 

What is the verdict, thistle for pct only or during cycle?

"What is preloading? How does it help my liver?
M1t takes the oral route within the body. The body’s natural filter is the liver. M1t is toxic, this means that your liver will take a beating while you use M1t. It is always better to preload that is to run a liver protector before jumping on the cycle.
Milk thistle @ 1000mg preloaded along with 4AD a week before the m1t starts.
PCT Milk thistle @ 1000mg for 2 weeks.
If budget permits you can also look into NAC.

Does running milk thistle along side m1t inhibit gains.
No, silymarin does not inhibit any gains and does not have any chemical significance. It is purely for the liver. Its effect however is best in the preload and pct."
“m1t: The quick and dirty guide to using it”:
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.aspx?m=177374

Good Luck! Smile

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 6:58:23 AM   
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how long do you take in between cycles.  i was told to take 3-4 weeks off

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 7:16:08 AM   
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id wait 8 weeks...4 weeks for PCT, and 4 weeks to let your body just chill the hell out ya know? after all the nonsense we put in, you really do need to give your body/liver enough time to repair itself as well as possible. I will be finished with my cycle of m1a on the 17th of sept, and finished with m1d on the 24th of sept...for a grand total of 3 weeks on the M1a and 4 weeks on the M1d.

I've started at 196lbs and tipped the scales this morning at 210. I without a doubt have some good amount of water in me, but i have also gotten significantly bigger. My arm is up to 16.9" as opposed to the 16.25" I started at. My waist is about .3-.5" bigger than when I started, but I am cutting down on carbs for the next 2 days to try and keep this a "clean" bulk. I was VERY upset during the first 2 weeks of this cycle, and I unfortunatly got some food poisoning that made me not eat for 2 days(which is NEVER good), but within a day or two, I gained all the weight right back.

my next cycle is going to be Gaspari's Halodrol-50 stacked with an international bottle of Gaspari's Orastan-A(no, i do NOT mean orastan-e, orastan-A is available only in england)

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Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 9:22:20 AM   
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did you get the gear magazine by legal gear?

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 12:43:09 PM   
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the little 4 page newspaper doohickey?

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Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 5:30:47 PM   
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i liked seeing the other products they had.

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 5:44:29 PM   
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quote:

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my next cycle is going to be Gaspari's Halodrol-50 stacked with an international bottle of Gaspari's Orastan-A(no, i do NOT mean orastan-e, orastan-A is available only in england)

whats the diff between e and a

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RE: and let it begin... - 9/13/2006 5:47:50 PM   
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like what? the rest of there stuff is pretty bobo. I wouldnt go with their non-methyl's again...maybe the methyl masterdrol.

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"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

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