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RE: and let it begin... - 8/30/2006 7:07:23 PM
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VaughnTrue
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yes, its all legal gear products at the moment. I understand these products are just as harsh, but now I have knoweldge about PCT, and other safety precautions.
i dont really DREAM about competing, but if I get big enough, then yea, i'd definitely compete as much as possible. its mainly just for me though.
yea, i still smoke, not as much as before though, i've definitely cut down
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Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 6:21:29 AM
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VaughnTrue
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I dont know exactly what you were trying to show me here Hulk, but...
im still going to go with the first feeling I had, and definitely thank you. I've decided that while on this PH cycle, it would not only be dumb of me to mix in MJ, but who knows, it's POSSIBLE it could cause some nasty sides. So...for the first time in 8 months, I have quit smoking. I will not touch ANY until after the cycle...if I even still want it by then ;-)
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"poena est vires in dissimulo"
Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 6:44:29 AM
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midnight765
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i am on my second go around on legal gear. i am stacking the methyl alpha and d. just make sure you take Formadrol after the alpha. I called the guy at legal gear and was given directions to take this stack.
alpHA no longer then 21 days
methyl d FOR 7 WEEKS
FORMADROL for 3-4 weeks right after taing alpha
take about 3-4 weeks off then cycle again.
here is the stack I am taking now
cellmas, no-explode, nitrix bsn stack
legal gear alpha, 1-D
fish oil, muti vitamin
GOLD standard protein shake, muscle milk
here is the breakdown of legal gear I was given
alpha 3 per day for 21 do not take more than 21 days
1-d 3 per day 1st 3 weeks, 6 pills after last 3-4 weeks
formadrol was 3 per day last 3 weeks anti estrogen is in it
While on legal gear I lift like a beast, so to say. keep the updates going
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 6:53:54 AM
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VaughnTrue
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ok...formadrol is a good ADDITION to PCT, but Nolva is still the most important man, i hope you have a few hundred mg. I wouldnt advise ANY ph cycle last longer than 4-5 weeks, 7 weeks is just a little crazy, methylated or not. So I'm doing 3 weeks on the alpha, and 4 weeks of the 1-D.
how long does it take until you notice the pills effects? I'm on day 4 now, and havent lifted yet today, but doubt ill be lifting much more than last week.
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"poena est vires in dissimulo"
Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 7:50:38 AM
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midnight765
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i usually start to notice gains 2-3 days
i think i will just stick with a 5 week stack and take 3 weeks off then stack again. i have no clue why the guy said you could take 1-D for up to 7 weeks.
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 4:14:05 PM
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TIHulk
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quote:
ORIGINAL: midnight765
i am on my second go around on legal gear. i am stacking the methyl alpha and d. just make sure you take Formadrol after the alpha. I called the guy at legal gear and was given directions to take this stack.
alpHA no longer then 21 days
methyl d FOR 7 WEEKS
FORMADROL for 3-4 weeks right after taing alpha
take about 3-4 weeks off then cycle again.
here is the stack I am taking now
cellmas, no-explode, nitrix bsn stack
legal gear alpha, 1-D
fish oil, muti vitamin
GOLD standard protein shake, muscle milk
here is the breakdown of legal gear I was given
alpha 3 per day for 21 do not take more than 21 days
1-d 3 per day 1st 3 weeks, 6 pills after last 3-4 weeks
formadrol was 3 per day last 3 weeks anti estrogen is in it
While on legal gear I lift like a beast, so to say. keep the updates going
Formadrol is good if you’re looking to get gyno  … LG (Legal Gear) recommends it cause they manufacture it… Once again, even though M1A can’t convert to estrogen, when you stop using M1A you're left with lower than normal test levels… Nolvadex keeps your aromatization and estrogen low & in check which in turn will help kick start your natural testosterone production (however, it will never be the same as before)… Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) is definitely the way to go (6OXO is good addition too) for PCT! Read and heed: “m1t: The quick and dirty guide to using it” - http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/fb.aspx?m=177374...
Good Luck (you'll need it)! 
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RE: and let it begin... - 8/31/2006 4:27:46 PM
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TIHulk
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ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue
I dont know exactly what you were trying to show me here Hulk, but...
im still going to go with the first feeling I had, and definitely thank you. I've decided that while on this PH cycle, it would not only be dumb of me to mix in MJ, but who knows, it's POSSIBLE it could cause some nasty sides. So...for the first time in 8 months, I have quit smoking.
YW... Didn’t you say above you still smoke but you cut down (concerning the question I asked about smoking while ON the cycle)… Anyhow, quitting after 8 months shows your control over it!
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ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue
I will not touch ANY until after the cycle...if I even still want it by then ;-)
After the cycle's over and if you decide to start smoking again (and you probably will), wait 1-2+ days for the Methyl to clean out of your system, start out with about half of what you were smoking before you stopped as your tolerance drops after about 2-3 weeks of discontinued use (i.e. if you were smoking half a gram of hydro or sativa to the face before, start out with a quarter of a gram or even less especially if you smoke a blunt (cigar paper) as it burns slower and build up again from there)… BE AWARE - You can easily get an anxiety attack, panic attack or even toxic delirium etc. if you don’t gradually build up from a small amount again!
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/1/2006 11:21:22 AM
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Avaric3
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what are some of your lift stats? that way we can compare before and after strength
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/1/2006 2:41:22 PM
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VaughnTrue
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dont get impatient now avaric...ill have a complete review up as soon as the cycle is over complete with caloric intake, weight gain/loss, strength increase, and every other little thing your little heart desires, lol
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"poena est vires in dissimulo"
Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/1/2006 3:06:37 PM
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TIHulk
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VaughnTrue... How’s your short-term memory doing?
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/1/2006 3:33:02 PM
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Coulaid
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TI which ph's have u used? Also have u used this lg stack?
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/2/2006 10:42:02 AM
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VaughnTrue
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my short term memory is decent...a little bit worse than it use to be, but not by much
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"poena est vires in dissimulo"
Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/2/2006 12:35:02 PM
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Avaric3
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quote:
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dont get impatient now avaric...ill have a complete review up as soon as the cycle is over complete with caloric intake, weight gain/loss, strength increase, and every other little thing your little heart desires, lol
lol, ya im pretty impatient. ive decided to start doing research now and than when im about 21 or 22 use PHs. i guess at least im patient enough to wait til im 21, id probly get messed up if i did it much earlier. my biggest concern with PHs is sterility. i would like to have kids when im older.
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/3/2006 7:14:10 PM
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midnight765
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went to a football game and went and damn I had some beers last night. My diet was messed up yesterday also. No wonder why when i woke up this morning I felt awful. That was the 1st time I drank in a few months. I will wait until I am done with my legal gear stack if I want to have a few drinks. Any effects that could have done to me?
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/3/2006 7:44:33 PM
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VaughnTrue
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destroy your liver is about it
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"poena est vires in dissimulo"
Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"
Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%
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RE: and let it begin... - 9/3/2006 8:42:52 PM
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KiDnGo
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This is a pretty intense thread... hurts my head...
Good luck with the stack Vaughn... seems pretty intense.
I'm having great results with the 17-HD two weeks in aside from the one f-up where I bumped it up to two pills a day and passed out hard two days later from some serious dehydration (wasn't drinking enough water). Other than that the only other side effects are as follows: Angry mood swings, horny as freaking hell, and surprisingly enough... I've put on oh... 7 pounds and have been getting more and more cut too... especially around the abs... something I wasn't expecting.
Anyways, good luck again, stay safe man... hope it doesn't hurt you long term in any way.
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