and let it begin...

ok, I started my new stack today and it consists of...

-Methyl 1-D
-Methyl 1-Alpha
-NO Infuse
-Transform
-Milk Thistle
-Red Rice Yeast Extract
-Hawthorne Berries
-Liver Support combination pill

PCT - Nolvadex 40/40/20/20
- 6-oxo 900mg a day x 4weeks

I will be running Methyl 1-Alpha for three weeks(recommended) at 3 pills a day, and the Methyl 1-D will be run at 3 pills twice daily(total of 6 pills) for 4 weeks.

here are the before pics...

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"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

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"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

You can tell this dude has been working out hard.

Thats a SICK back... good luck.

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love the vascularity, not to much not to little, its just right

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Looking good.

What're your goals?

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what kind of tats are those nd whend you get inked
did you get those tats before buffing up cause I always wondered if someone got a tat before bulking up wouldnt it stretch out and move to another unwanted place after buffin up like the one on ur back which is the middle if you buff up the back more wouldnt it move outta place outta the Center





your stack sucks *************** all the liver support pills and milk thistle in the world wont help ya nd even if it did wich it wont
after stopping the use of that stack cycle your muscle will deflate like a baloon since it wont have the same support as it did b4
you only startd recently
drop the stak and stik to natural whole foods
drop the shi t before its to late
drop the shi t before its to late
drop the shi t before its to late
drop the shi t

ORIGINAL: Protein68

what kind of tats are those nd whend you get inked
did you get those tats before buffing up cause I always wondered if someone got a tat before bulking up wouldnt it stretch out and move to another unwanted place after buffin up like the one on ur back which is the middle if you buff up the back more wouldnt it move outta place outta the Center





your stack sucks ***************** all the liver support pills and milk thistle in the world wont help ya nd even if it did wich it wont
after stopping the use of that stack your muscle will deflate like a baloon since it wont have the same support as it did b4
you only started recently
drop the stack and stick to natural whole foods
drop the shi t before its to late
drop the shi t

ok...i'll try to answer everything the best I can. The tattoos were both designed by me, the one on my back is my version of my family crest, and the one on my right arm is Proverbs 3:1 with a wolf howling at the moon in the middle. I got the tats before I got in shape. They were done by Jimmy at Modern Age Tattoos in NY.

why do you think i'll lose all my size after the cycle? The entire purpose of PCT is to infact KEEP size. I might lose 1-3lbs during PCT, but I am not planning on much more than that. What basis do you have to say liver support herbs dont work? can you quote any direct experiments?

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

You have been a member of this forum for long enough and I am sure you have researched what you are taking. Don't worry about bold statements from a new user. I have never read anything bad about the things you are taking. IMO I would be careful with the milk thistle and similiar products b/c I am not sold on them yet. I used to box with an older guy who was a recovering acoholic and he took that stuff. It made him feel better then ever he said.

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Excuse my ignorance of the subject, but what's the methyl? Pro hormone or steroid?

prohormone. Methyl 1-D is a non-methyl(dont mind the name, lol) prohormone, and Methyl 1-Alpha is a methyl prohormone(basically much stronger and much more aggressive on the liver). 

"poena est vires in dissimulo"

Start
Height : 6'
Weight : 258lbs
Waist : 38"
Bicep : 16"
Neck : 20"

Now
Height : 6'
Weight : 200
Waist : 32"
Bicep : 17.25
Neck : 19"
BF% - 7.4%

That makes 2 Jews from NY (that I know of) hanging around this forum! Proverbs 3:1 (one variation: “My son, don't forget my teaching; but let your heart keep my commandments…”) in Hebrew, original choice (even though getting inked is prohibited to Jews, but hey, a lot of things are prohibited to us that we still do [which still doesn’t justify our actions], (although I don’t like anything permanent) I would’ve chosen a white and black striped Siberian tiger but a wolf howling is a great variation too… The crest in the upper center of your back is great, it’s an original tattoo and in an original location (as opposed to the usual upper right tat most have).

To critique your upper body pics: your overall back is in surprisingly good proportion, the definition is great (A)  , you’ll get that A+ soon! Your overall chest and Serratus Anterior development is good; your midsection needs work (what’s your BF%? [“bulk cycle belly”?].

ORIGINAL: VaughnTrue

prohormone. Methyl 1-D is a non-methyl(dont mind the name, lol) prohormone, and Methyl 1-Alpha is a methyl prohormone(basically much stronger and much more aggressive on the liver). 

Yes!


Vaughn, Vaughn, Vaughn… Where did it all go wrong? C’mon, you still had room for improvement without these “supplement enhancers”, I’m sure you could’ve hit 18”/18.5”+ arms etc. before completely plateauing or is it because you want the “quick gains” (if so, “patience goes a long way”)!?

There are a few prohormone left on the market since the prohormone ban in January 2005, however, IMO the ones still on the market are pure ****!

Why’d you choose M1A (M1T’s brother [T for Test]) over any other “supplement/s”? “You gotta do what you gotta do”!

Why’d you choose M1D post M1A, why not M1P?

Ok, first off, I suppose/hope you know that taking M1A (prohormone) will increasingly shut down your natural testosterone production throughout your cycle (and it will never be the same again post cycle no matter what PCT you do), and the peak of natural test production for a healthy male is from 18-21+, so I hope you’re over 21+++! You started yesterday, how’s your lower-mid back feeling (if you have back pain eat potassium), lethargy etc.?

M1A stays in your system for about 24 hours. Are you hydrating properly?

How many mg’s of Milk Thistle (active ingredient = silymarin extract) & Hawthorn Berry are you taking, are you taking it once, twice or three times a day (how many hours do you use to spread them out)? I remember a post by you from a little while ago concerning loose stools, get ready for possibly even looser stools as a side effect of Milk Thistle.

I like your Post Cycle Therapy (PCT), it shows that you’ve done some research before going over the hill as opposed to some ignorant talking the other day about using Formadrol for PCT – yea if your bucking for ****tits (gyno)... Even though M1A can’t convert to estrogen, as you may well know when you stop using M1A you're left with lower than normal test levels… Nolvadex keeps your aromatization and estrogen low & in check which in turn will help kick start your natural testosterone production (however, it will never be the same [as before], and that’s the whole catch, since it will never be the same, you’ll keep going back and back until your left with a prematurely balding head [if it’s in your genes even though they block DHT & put a 5AR inhibitor in], ****tits [gynecomastia], soft muscles and a shrunken dick & balls etc. etc. etc. along with all the other serious internal (vital organs) health problems)! Nolvadex (Tamoxifen Citrate) or Clomid is definitely the way to go (6OXO is good addition too) for PCT!

Not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but, I’ve done my share of research on “supplements” (mostly steroids, however, I have a fairly basic knowledge on prohormones like M1T etc., Trenadrol, Superdrol etc.), and the end result after all that research was that “the natural way is always better than the artificial”!!! I’m standing by my MultiVitamins, Lean Proteins, Complex Starchy Carbohydrates, Complex Fibrous Carbohydrates, EFA’s (Essential Fatty Acids), Water  etc.!

Chew on that for a bit and I’ll be back soon (I saved some good info on M1T or M1A in a M Word doc by someone from bb.com a little while ago, I’ll dig it up when I get the chance [after eating]).

To be continued…

I don't even know what all this stuff is, but good luck with it Vaughn, TIHulk, where you been at? Haven't heard from you in a minute.

Damn Vaughn, I can't wait for pictures after. You're already huge. 

ORIGINAL: MrAllStarChris

I don't even know what all this stuff is, but good luck with it Vaughn, TIHulk, where you been at? Haven't heard from you in a minute.

I've been in the "firmament"!

Looks like you're going in the right direction Chris, you've packed on some mass, it also looks like you hit your Erector Spinae nice & hard! Are you hitting all the muscles in your back or just the basics (Lats, Traps, Subs, Rhomboids etc.)?