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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:01:12 PM   
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Today was the day where Cottage Cheese Disgust started to set in.  I don't care what a miracle protein food it is, I think I'm coming close to having had enough!Smile



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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:02:41 PM   
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Methinks a new weight and measurement update is needed

I want to see how things have gone so far, last one youd lost 7lbs and 1% BF% in quite a short time.

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:02:52 PM   
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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:03:57 PM   
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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:05:10 PM   
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Squats squats squats!  Those are hanging knee tucks, btw.  I want my grip to get better too!





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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:06:13 PM   
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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:10:28 PM   
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Stairclimbing is still a pain.  But the swimming is relaxing.  I like this "free cardio" day.  I think I was scheduled to do "outdoor cycling" but I changed it.  It's basically a day to do something cardio different than the regimented gym thing.  Well, I like to swim, but it doesn't seem like working to me (I'm a slow swimmer), so I make myself do something worst first, and then reward myself with the swimming.

Wait, come to think of it, I didn't do stairs on this day (despite what the log says)--I did Jacob's Ladder, a device I've only seen at my gym and nowhere else.  Same concept as an escalator, except you're on a ladder instead of steps, at about a 45 degree angle up.  The speed is controlled by how fast you climb.  The machine is plastered with warnings---"Jacobs Ladder causes high heart rates".  You work up a sweat in just a minute or two.



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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:13:04 PM   
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Today ends the partial fantasy on the food intake! Smile

This evening, one of the orchestras I play in performed Beethoven's 9th.  A huge turnout (it was an anniversary concert for the orchestra--its 20th), and they had a dessert reception afterwards.  I skipped the desserts, yeah!  I can have willpower sometimes!





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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:15:33 PM   
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Today I took my partner tanning with me.  He's so pasty white.  He was very funny.  He decided that I'm nuts, but really, he already knew that.  He did 7 minutes standing up, "level 1".  He didn't burn! Yeah!



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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:19:01 PM   
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Well, I completed the workout, doing one more rep on every set except in the bench press.  But I didn't feel that energetic, which made me a little mad. 

But I did a little flexing in the mirror while shaving (very discreet, I don't have anything to flaunt at the gym), and even though I'm not where I want to be, I am a lot better than I was, and I'm fairly certain I'm not imagining it.  That was kind of cool.







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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:29:51 PM   
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Methinks a new weight and measurement update is needed

I want to see how things have gone so far, last one youd lost 7lbs and 1% BF% in quite a short time.


Here you go, twisted.

As you can see, some of my measurements went down, especially in the chest (well, you wouldn't think so from the last time I posted stats, but I had gone up almost another 1/2 inch in the chest in between time) and thighs.  But yet I'm stronger.  I think this speaks to fat loss (13-14% by the last pinch, although I think this is an underestimate), not muscle loss.  My weight has decreased by only a pound or two.  This doesn't suprise me--I had expected in this "mass" phase to stay at about the same weight, hopefully gaining some lean mass and losing fat (a temporary situation at best, I know!).  I think it's working for right now. 

I'm getting some nice veins on my forearms.  I want that to  crawl up to my (puny) biceps, so that at least they look serious!Smile

Future plans:

This program ends the last day of September.  Originally I was going to pursue a pure bulking phase for 4 weeks, but then Muscle Nerdy Jeff Anderson offered his contest, just the motivation I needed to do that half-hellish Optimum Anabolics program.  That's a 9 week bugger.  I'm putting myself on the variation where the bodyweight stays overall the same (the other versions are pure weight gain, and the other is net weight loss)>  I'll leave my plans after that in the air for now (that ends around December 1).  Right now I'm working on the diet portion, especially the low protein phases, which has me in slight conniptions on what to eat (but I've started a thread of recipes in the Critique My Recipe section), and I've layed hands on an excellent vegetarian cookbook, Madison's Vegetarian Cooking for Everyone, a great tome that almost had me convinced to go herbivore.


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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:35:31 PM   
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I think I'm liking deadlifts.  I think I seriously need help!

You like em now, you learn to love em later...

HE he he...wait till you feel comfotable to do reps at 225, 245, 305 ...THEN you will start to love em! Smile


Wow, at this point I can't even imagine it!  But I can't wait.

I'm just impressed with myself that I'm deadlifting over 100 #s for multiple reps!  Everyone has to start somewhere!  (And I'm always the only one in the gym that seems to do them).

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 12:58:27 PM   
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I don't mean to say your lifts are light!
You are doing great!!!

I mean simply to excite you with something you are not even aware of...when you work your way up to lift those heavier..it is like a different lift all together!

At some point your body sort of clicks into a groove and you lift with a full body intensity that is like a drug!

HECK - IT IS A DRUG!Smile

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 1:05:57 PM   
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I don't mean to say your lifts are light!
You are doing great!!!

I mean simply to excite you with something you are not even aware of...when you work your way up to lift those heavier..it is like a different lift all together!

At some point your body sort of clicks into a groove and you lift with a full body intensity that is like a drug!

HECK - IT IS A DRUG!Smile


Oh, I didn't take your comment the wrong way at all!  I was just reflecting on how cool it is I've moved up in weight from the very first time I did a deadlift (yep, the bar, the whole bar, and nothing but the bar).Smile

I think I am already addicted.  I've never learned so much about myself, my body, patience and preserverance than when I've embarked on this journey of mine!

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/18/2006 1:43:42 PM   
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dont worry G, i started out on 110lbs, 3 months later, im repping 220-245lbs for 5-8 reps and maxxing on 300lbs odd, keep it going man, and yeah, youre losing fat but gaining muscle so ending up maintaining weight.
Best way to go about things really.
You have a really strict diet, wish i was that good, i eat enough, just never structure it properly, and cheat a few times lol.

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/19/2006 5:53:43 AM   
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dont worry G, i started out on 110lbs, 3 months later, im repping 220-245lbs for 5-8 reps and maxxing on 300lbs odd, keep it going man, and yeah, youre losing fat but gaining muscle so ending up maintaining weight.
Best way to go about things really.
You have a really strict diet, wish i was that good, i eat enough, just never structure it properly, and cheat a few times lol.


Oh, I cheat!  Go through each week's logs (except this last week's), and you'll see it.  I'm still smarting over the 1200 calorie dessert I had out one evening (if I would've known, I would've never eaten it, or split it four ways!).  Cheating is part of the program--just one "meal" is the official line.

Inspiring on how fast you went up in your deadlifts.  Let's see you're 19-20, and I'm almost 40.  So if I'm twice as old as you, it will probably take me twice as long to get there (don't you love my warped logic?!?).  That alright--6 months to double my deadlift . . . I can live with that.  I'm not going anywhere!

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/19/2006 7:24:50 AM   
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haha!
to be fair, a good 50lbs of the deadlift weight was from noob gains, and youre right your age will go against you, but still, you'll be doing loads of weight in no time.

Im pretty sure ON will appear soon making sure you never state how age can be used as an excuse in bodybuilding gains! lol.

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/19/2006 9:33:28 AM   
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So if I'm twice as old as you, it will probably take me twice as long to get there

No I think the math goes like this...I am twice your age (1/2) with twice the experience (1/2) so it should take 1/4 (1/2 x 1/2) the time to have the same gains you have...Smile

I am about the same age...

But really, it is far better to raise the resistance gradually as you can, to milk all the gains you can get from every pound!!!

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/19/2006 10:00:15 AM   
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So if I'm twice as old as you, it will probably take me twice as long to get there

No I think the math goes like this...I am twice your age (1/2) with twice the experience (1/2) so it should take 1/4 (1/2 x 1/2) the time to have the same gains you have...Smile

I am about the same age...

But really, it is far better to raise the resistance gradually as you can, to milk all the gains you can get from every pound!!!


Dan Dan Dan Dan!  When will you learn?!?  Smile  You're a god.  The rest of us are mere mortals!  But I'm taking to heart your comment about milking those gains!

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RE: Z's Shrink the gut expedition - 9/19/2006 10:21:28 AM   
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I know I coud deadlift 400-500 maybe 600 right now...but I'm milking it 310-315-320!!!

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You're a god


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh!  Don't tell! Smile

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