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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 8/29/2006 5:19:25 PM
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johnnyb1635
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Asprine is used to thin out the blood.
Basicly, you have the Ephedra/Ephedrine which acts as a beta antagonist to stimulate the production of noradrenaline via the CNS(central nervous system). The increased production of this substance causes cAMP levels to increase. This is said to be "thermogenic" because it more often than not will increase your body's core temperature and speed up your metabolism.
The caffeine will cause your brain, yes your brain, to produce more adrenaline and inhibits(haults) the production of phosphodisomethings (its been a while since i researched ephedra and the e/c/a stack)which slows the breakdown of cAMP.
The Aspirin will thin out your blood, and also prolong the thermogenic and metabolic efffects by sustaining the cAMP levels.
Ephedra is also an ANORETIC, so it will suppress your appetite, the only problem is, its still unclear as to how it does this... kinda scary if you ask me.
Ephedra also stops the body from being able to thermo-regulate itself, meaning you can and will sweat, overheat, and become dehydrated without feeling ANY discomfort at all.
Like I stated before, Ephedra is a beta antagonist, like clenbuterol and ecstacy. Ephedra and Clenbuterol are actually pretty similar in the way they work, and just like clenbuterol ephedra will only work for a few weeks before the effects diminish. This makes cycling a MUST.
Just keep in mind when thinking of starting this stack that you are not messing around with whey protien and multivitamins. Your messing around with DRUGS. Aspirin and Ephedrine are both DRUGS. Ephedrine is a broncilador(SP) and im sure you know what aspirin is. These drugs are very powerful and you should research them ALOT before even thinking of taking this stuff. I dont care what anyone tells you, look into it and educate your self on the stack before even taking it.
On a second note, there are other products out there that are decently effective and do not contain ephedra.
Some of them that ive personaly used are:
Methyl Ripped
NxCares Ripped System- very good-
Lipo 6 - ok -
Ripped fuel - garbage -
and there are many others out there.
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 8/29/2006 7:11:38 PM
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stalloneIs#1toMe
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im starting the nxcare ripped stack soon because the reviews i have heard makes me think that this is possibly one of the very few products that work and good thing is theres no ephedera in it but i did some reading up on it and found that it has a great a$$ busting routine to follow so im really wandering if the pills are just there to keep you motivated for the hard work you would be doing if following the ripped system plan so maybe the hard work you do is the results and not the pills
idk its just my opinion but im trying it because i got to shed a few pounds for a fight i got coming up thats the reason im doing it
so after running my mouth forever id simply say try it whats it gonna hurt
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 8/29/2006 11:35:30 PM
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chango
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Anyone try SAN Tight? I'm thinking about purchasing this.
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 8/30/2006 7:32:35 PM
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TIHulk
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quote:
ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635
Asprine is used to thin out the blood.
Basicly, you have the Ephedra/Ephedrine which acts as a beta antagonist to stimulate the production of noradrenaline via the CNS(central nervous system). The increased production of this substance causes cAMP levels to increase. This is said to be "thermogenic" because it more often than not will increase your body's core temperature and speed up your metabolism.
The caffeine will cause your brain, yes your brain, to produce more adrenaline and inhibits(haults) the production of phosphodisomethings (its been a while since i researched ephedra and the e/c/a stack)which slows the breakdown of cAMP.
The Aspirin will thin out your blood, and also prolong the thermogenic and metabolic efffects by sustaining the cAMP levels.
Ephedra is also an ANORETIC, so it will suppress your appetite, the only problem is, its still unclear as to how it does this... kinda scary if you ask me.
Ephedra also stops the body from being able to thermo-regulate itself, meaning you can and will sweat, overheat, and become dehydrated without feeling ANY discomfort at all.
Like I stated before, Ephedra is a beta antagonist, like clenbuterol and ecstacy. Ephedra and Clenbuterol are actually pretty similar in the way they work, and just like clenbuterol ephedra will only work for a few weeks before the effects diminish. This makes cycling a MUST.
Just keep in mind when thinking of starting this stack that you are not messing around with whey protien and multivitamins. Your messing around with DRUGS. Aspirin and Ephedrine are both DRUGS. Ephedrine is a broncilador(SP) and im sure you know what aspirin is. These drugs are very powerful and you should research them ALOT before even thinking of taking this stuff. I dont care what anyone tells you, look into it and educate your self on the stack before even taking it.
On a second note, there are other products out there that are decently effective and do not contain ephedra.
Some of them that ive personaly used are:
Methyl Ripped
NxCares Ripped System- very good-
Lipo 6 - ok -
Ripped fuel - garbage -
and there are many others out there.
John, that's the second good post I've seen by you... Sounds like you know your stuff concerning Ephedrine/Ephedra!...
Keep it up! 
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 8/30/2006 7:50:00 PM
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njmuscle66
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Yes first and foremost diet and nutrition is the key. I am glad to see people bringing up some very good supplements.
I had great success with a stack of Melting Point and Sensamin. Tight is a product i used previously and have good things to say and well the E/C/A stack has been around forever
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 9/1/2006 4:01:20 PM
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Joromir
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I aplologize for not having read all of the posts on this topic, but if anyone could sum up that would be great.
Right now I'm following Dan Mirage's Nutrition/workout plan, and I have a wedding coming up in March and I need to look GOOD! Asuming I'm following the plan to a "T" can I expect major results by then?
Also (following this thread of course) what would be the best fat burner out there for just kicking my ass?
Thanks
< Message edited by Joromir -- 9/1/2006 4:13:14 PM >
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RE: wanna loose body fat seriousll, any supps to assist... - 9/1/2006 5:32:36 PM
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johnnyb1635
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quote:
ORIGINAL: TIHulk
quote:
ORIGINAL: johnnyb1635
Asprine is used to thin out the blood.
Basicly, you have the Ephedra/Ephedrine which acts as a beta antagonist to stimulate the production of noradrenaline via the CNS(central nervous system). The increased production of this substance causes cAMP levels to increase. This is said to be "thermogenic" because it more often than not will increase your body's core temperature and speed up your metabolism.
The caffeine will cause your brain, yes your brain, to produce more adrenaline and inhibits(haults) the production of phosphodisomethings (its been a while since i researched ephedra and the e/c/a stack)which slows the breakdown of cAMP.
The Aspirin will thin out your blood, and also prolong the thermogenic and metabolic efffects by sustaining the cAMP levels.
Ephedra is also an ANORETIC, so it will suppress your appetite, the only problem is, its still unclear as to how it does this... kinda scary if you ask me.
Ephedra also stops the body from being able to thermo-regulate itself, meaning you can and will sweat, overheat, and become dehydrated without feeling ANY discomfort at all.
Like I stated before, Ephedra is a beta antagonist, like clenbuterol and ecstacy. Ephedra and Clenbuterol are actually pretty similar in the way they work, and just like clenbuterol ephedra will only work for a few weeks before the effects diminish. This makes cycling a MUST.
Just keep in mind when thinking of starting this stack that you are not messing around with whey protien and multivitamins. Your messing around with DRUGS. Aspirin and Ephedrine are both DRUGS. Ephedrine is a broncilador(SP) and im sure you know what aspirin is. These drugs are very powerful and you should research them ALOT before even thinking of taking this stuff. I dont care what anyone tells you, look into it and educate your self on the stack before even taking it.
On a second note, there are other products out there that are decently effective and do not contain ephedra.
Some of them that ive personaly used are:
Methyl Ripped
NxCares Ripped System- very good-
Lipo 6 - ok -
Ripped fuel - garbage -
and there are many others out there.
John, that's the second good post I've seen by you... Sounds like you know your stuff concerning Ephedrine/Ephedra!...
Keep it up!
Thank you very much hulk. Ive done alot of research reguarding ephedra/ephedrine and ph's/roids. Im in the process of getting my personal trainers certification and nutrition degree :)
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