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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/13/2008 8:37:24 PM
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What are all those 'Guest' comments above? That new?
This thread is from 2003.
^ what she said. things change
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 9:14:58 AM
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Natural means this: Food. Train.
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 12:26:50 PM
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Natural means this: Food. Train.
But Amino acids and Whey is just more of what your body creates by itself or gets from natural food, so they are also natural.
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 12:36:55 PM
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Natural means this: Food. Train.
But Amino acids and Whey is just more of what your body creates by itself or gets from natural food, so they are also natural.
yeah, and we naturally produce creatine; and taking a creatine supplement is natural bodybuilding? i dont think so!
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 12:38:10 PM
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 1:16:09 PM
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Everyone already knows this, Natural body building is different in everyones eyes. Honestly though look at it, your NATURALLY have things occurring in the body; creatine, protein, amino acids etc...
And I guess since we should all be NATURAL body builders, we shouldn't be taking essential amino acids.
I honestly dont understand what people are thinking when they say taking things like creatine and whey is un-natural. Then according to them, you shouldnt be taking a multi vitamin, or even gatorade, hell you might as well just not eat at all your only aloud to drink water since food has vitamins/creatine/protein/amino acids in them as well. To be natural we can now only drink water since it has no nutritional value.
Natural body building becomes Un-Natural, when you are not using things your body can or would not naturally attain.
Creatine is natural, putting more of it in our bodys to keep levels up/replenish is not un natural. we get this from food.
Please come up with a good reason why creatine, whey, vitamins, amino acids etc are all un-natural.
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Natural means this: Food. Train.
But Amino acids and Whey is just more of what your body creates by itself or gets from natural food, so they are also natural.
yeah, and we naturally produce creatine; and taking a creatine supplement is natural bodybuilding? i dont think so!
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 1:35:48 PM
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Natural would be what we were in the beginning... straight up primates... no clothing, etc. I dunno bout you guys, but I dont exercise in my birthday suit, so I'm not natural .
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 1:43:56 PM
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People who are not farmilar with the sport of bodybuilding think any supplement (even if it is natural) is a steriod. My friends said I'm on steriods becuase I told them I was taking whey protien.
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 1:53:23 PM
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And we have seen this countless times through out history. When people dont understand something, they think its bad...
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People who are not farmilar with the sport of bodybuilding think any supplement (even if it is natural) is a steriod. My friends said I'm on steriods becuase I told them I was taking whey protien.
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 3:53:25 PM
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Humans are animals and are part of nature, therefore everything we do is natural. So by that logic, even using steroids and hgh isn't "un-natural." Some people have their own definition but most are just stupid and don't even have their own strict definition of "natural"
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 3:58:02 PM
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ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34
Everyone already knows this, Natural body building is different in everyones eyes. Honestly though look at it, your NATURALLY have things occurring in the body; creatine, protein, amino acids etc...
And I guess since we should all be NATURAL body builders, we shouldn't be taking essential amino acids.
I honestly dont understand what people are thinking when they say taking things like creatine and whey is un-natural. Then according to them, you shouldnt be taking a multi vitamin, or even gatorade, hell you might as well just not eat at all your only aloud to drink water since food has vitamins/creatine/protein/amino acids in them as well. To be natural we can now only drink water since it has no nutritional value.
Natural body building becomes Un-Natural, when you are not using things your body can or would not naturally attain.
Creatine is natural, putting more of it in our bodys to keep levels up/replenish is not un natural. we get this from food.
Please come up with a good reason why creatine, whey, vitamins, amino acids etc are all un-natural.
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ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
Natural means this: Food. Train.
But Amino acids and Whey is just more of what your body creates by itself or gets from natural food, so they are also natural.
yeah, and we naturally produce creatine; and taking a creatine supplement is natural bodybuilding? i dont think so!
When you take creatine supplement it is wayyy more effective than the stuff in food and i think it has a different effect. Dont forget the extra stuff the companies put in their creatine supplmenets. therefore i think that creatine is not part of natural bodybulding. As for multi vits, i dont know a good reason for that  . Hell i take creatine, i dont consider myself a natural bodybuilder.
WheyFreak, dude your right man. they see my creatine and their like 'steroids dude' and then i punch them in the face
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 4:25:40 PM
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Straight Creatine nautral, whey protein is natural, aminos are natural. It's when you start adding in crazy additives to the creatine, and to the aminos that make it considerable to be un-natural. But in the world of bodybuilding, and following the rules essentially, only HGH and other illegal steroids is considered un-natural.
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 5:23:17 PM
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Let us not forget, test is also produced naturally in the body. Does that mean if I inject it I'm natural? What about HGH?
What warrants you the right to dictate what is, and is not natural, if it is produced by the body?
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RE: What is the REAL definition of Natural? - 1/15/2008 6:09:26 PM
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But when you inject, you are injecting synthetic test, not the same test that is produced by the body. So therefore it isn't natural.
But I agree with the posts above, natural has a different meaning for everyone. What is natural to one is probably unnatural to others. It just depends on the individual and how they interpret the word and how literally they take it.
Personally, I think you are natural until you use steroids.
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