hi all has anyone heard of or tried vertex. sounds good just wondering. 

never herd of it link?

www.vertexformula.com

The formula looks good if it wasn't a proprietary blend. Are you going to be trying this out?

yea thinking dont know yet

CEE and creatine mono?
let me know how it works our..the page is nice though..lol

The ingredents look solid

i went to gnc and saw this stuff, and it said  like 14 pounds in 4 weeks or some ****, so i stole 6 sample packs, i liked it but it wasnt spectacular, i could tell i was using it though, try it out ive been really curious to know if this **** works

Man I just got a real quick question. I'm 6'5" 280 and I just started taking creatine and whey protein. I know you have to drink more water becasue of the creatine but what would be a good amount?

4 litres a day

ok thanks. and also it's all about spacing it out threw the day right? don't just chug a sh!tload at one time and I should be cool? I lied I got a few more q's. As it is I'm driknig about 6-7 liters a day, should I cut back? Should I be taking the creatine and protein same time? Also should it be more than once a day. I been doing some research and I keep seeing people talk about taking 10 g. a day but only taking 2 g. at a time 5 times a day. As it is I'm doing protein and creatine 2 times a day. 43 g. of creatine and 30 g. of protein 2 times a day....am I cool or no? Thanks for your help

you can stay with 6-7 its not bad for you and yes spread it out, but 43 grams of creatine a day wtf! lol you dont need that much

lol. I lied I'm only taking 10.5 g. a day. sh!t. Ok last question...then I'll leave you alone...for today. Should I take it on my dayts off too? Yah you hear people say "research hasn't shown creatine helps rebuild.." thanks man

yes take it on your days off also

i just take half the amount on off days, but youll hear differnet everywhere, gotta decide for yourself