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A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:40 AM
Ok guys, heres the deal. Im about to turn 17 in a month and im 5'8. I weight about 140-145 LB. The thing is that I want to get some tone and definition. I want to get cut and grow some muscles. I really need to know how to do this. I will listen to everything that is it my reach. I will follow proper diets and do what I have to do. I will prepare mentally as well. I play soccer Tuesdays and thrusdays so that should give me my cardio right there. I really need someone to lay out a plan for me because I am so lost in all this. I am going to be reading a lot around here to see how I can look better. I know that when I was a little younger, I was much more toned. Also, I know my body can resist a lot of workout and will gain muscles quick. Anyone that can help please do. Thank you in advance. Also, should I stay off the cola?

Here are some pictures of me, maybe you can help me better by looking at that. Oh yes, also, How can I measure my body fat?

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/bulking001.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/bulking002.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/bulking003.jpg

Some please help...

Age: 17
Weight: 140-145
BF%: I dont know how to measure that so I dont know.
Currently: Bulking up.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:08 AM
Hmmm well i dont know how ripped you wish to look, if you want nice definition and still lean body, for 5'8" you wanna be around your weight with low bodyfat % (the amount of weight i you that is purely fat) a Bodyfat that starts showing 6pack etc is 10%, and for good measure, 8%.
 
If you want to be big but look defined, like where all the muscles are poking out and you can see the lines of definition, then you want to gain weight to around 180-200lbs for your height-then start cutting.
 
Pick one and do it
 
As to the tips
 
Soccer is good, that will burn of any unwanted fat
yes drop the coke, fizzy drinks arent good for you anyway.
To cut up and get some definition you are going to need access to a gym, or at the very least your own weights.
 
a routine (basically mine but you can switch it up and change muscle groups depending on what you prefer, go to the critique my training forum to see a massive array of routines) thats good is filled with rest days
 
Monday-chest and arm
Wednesday-legs and back
Friday-shoulders, abs, tris, and lats
 
Mondays exercises would contain exercises such as standard bench press
incline bench press, decline bench press, dumbell flyes, cable flyes (all these can be google imaged if you dont know what they are) for chest, you are looking for around 12-14 reps if you wanna get that cut look, so add on weight where you can do 12-14 reps. This is the same for every exercise.
Arms you can do many things, standard bicep curls, concentration curls, hammer curls, cable curls, preacher curls sitting and/or standing.
 
Wednesday would involve deadlifts, squats, legpress, lunges, any running cardio for 20-30 mins at either start or finish of workout (or both) dumbell rows, weighted row, calf raises and the like.
 
Friday will involve things such as tricep kickbacks, tricep dips, pulldowns, shoulder press, military press, clean and curl, and things like that.
 
As to diet you will need to use the calorie calculator to see how much you need exactly, just type in "calorie calculator" into the search bar here and you will find it with ease, as i dont know the direct link. For your weight at 5'8 i would say 2000 calories would be around the amount youre looking for, and not too much fat within it, however keep your protein levels high so your muscles can maintain there size, your main objective is to lose fat, so starve your body of calories so it burns up fat storages (do not take the word starvation into the wrong context, you NEED to eat, however just a LITTLE less than average, so your body requires the need of its fat, by no means should you not eat anything unless ill or just not hungry etc) but your muscles need to maintain there size and strength, to do this they need protein, so have enough, i would say 1x bodyweight in grams, so go for around 145 grams of protein per day, to be on the safe side you could make it 160grams ish.
 
Eat 6 small meals a day totalling to these numbers, this will improve your metabolism.
 
I dont personally think you look that pudgy, your BF% seems to be around 15% and your metabolism seems to be quite normal, i dont think it will take long with right exercise and diet for you to get to 10% BF%, mere months.



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RE: A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 10:37 AM
Ye, listen to Linky, lol. You do need to bulk up, but I'm not sure about the 180-200 lbs :P. If your at 140 right now, I think if you bulked for 10-12 weeks, and got up to around 170, some of which will be fat regardless of the soccer, but you shouldnt put on to much with enough cardio. And then go into a cutting cycle and shed yourself down to around high 150's, low 160's, you could be pretty shredded, you have a pretty good base to start with. If you go to all the different threads (diet, excersises, training, etc) check out at the top of the page and you will see posts about all the basics, and that should get you started, good luck m8, keep us posted on results, and ask questions about whatever ya need.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 11:11 AM
Alright thanks guys. Me going to the gym right now might be a little impossible, maybe when school starts. I will keep you guys posted. More tips please.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 12:51 PM
okay. to answer your question... stop soda! do it gradually if you are a big pop fan so u dont go crazy.
 
you have the mindset for this it seems. but along with lifting heavier and heavier, eating high protein foods and cutting away all junk food, the key to this all is consistancy. if you keep at it and do it even when you feel like taking the day off, thats when you will really start to see results.
 
Basic Diet Tips- these are my rules of thumbs for beginning bulking and eating healthy.
1. For every pound of body weight you have, take in one gram of protein(i.e. you weigh 148. eat at least 148 grams of protein everyday!)
2. For every gram of protein you take in, take 2 carbs.(i.e. you take in 148g of protein, so take in 296g of carbs!)NOTE: if you want to "cut", lower this amt.
3. Eat more. The normal daily diet is 2000 calories. you need to go bigger, try 3000 to start.
4. Eat healthy. try to kick soda, fast food and candy. its hard at first, but after awhile, you wont even want them.
5. Real food is better. dont rely on protein powder and supplements alone! eat chicken, turkey, non fat yogurt, wheat bread, low fat milk, egg whites etc.
6. Look at nutrition labels. get used to it! more protein and good carbs, less fat and sugars
7. Water! Drink it up! use crystal light to flavor it up.
 
these are some of my basic diet tips. i was gonna post my workout tips. but i gotta go! ill post more later. good luck
Age: 21
Wt: 180(156 as of 3/06)
Ht: 5'11"

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RE: A lot of help is needed - Thursday, August 03, 2006 1:04 PM
yeah cifs got his last one dead on right for definite, i forgot about water, water is one of the most IMPORTANT things, nothing transports around the body if water is not present, every calorie and carb and protein molecule HAS to be attached to water or in solution of water to travel, so drink up!!!!!



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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 04, 2006 12:11 PM
I have a few quick question. What is really bulking up and cutting? Also if fast food has a lot of calories why should I not eat it if i am trying to gain some weight? And also, how can I keep track of the calories intake, I just tried putting in on paper but that is just a hassle.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 04, 2006 12:16 PM
Bulking is when you take in more calories than your body needs in order to build muscle. Cutting is when you take in less calories than your body really needs, so it's forced to burn fat. However, taking in too many calories, or calories of the wrong sort- Like the junk food you mentioned- Can add too much fat. Also, cutting back the calories too much to lose fat can cause your body to shut down the fat burning process.
Basically, you bulk up to build more muscle, and then you cut the fat to make it look more defined.
As far as calorie tracking, it's a pain in the ass no matter how you look at it. You can use a site like Fitday.com, they have excellent calorie tracking software, but you still have to input the foods you ate that day.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 04, 2006 1:40 PM
Ohh ok, so in the buliking process, I should work out too? Like go to the gym and all that or is that in the cutting stage?
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 04, 2006 9:36 PM
OK I took two new pictures, they came out a little better that the other ones. Please dont mind the hair, LOL, its so ugly right now. Im waiting right before school to cut it.

OK here they are.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/Jonai003.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/Jonai002.jpg

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g170/SkandaL11/Personal/Jonai001.jpg
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:08 PM
Well, im going to start working out tomorrow. Im going to do my upper body. How long do you think it should take to do everything that is on the list for monday? I know, im going to do it on a wednesday, but w/e.
Age: 17
Weight: 140-145
BF%: I dont know how to measure that so I dont know.
Currently: Bulking up.
SkandaL

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RE: A lot of help is needed - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 7:42 PM
Ok guys, well after a lot of looking I found a gym I can actually work out in. The good thing is that I have four friends that want to work out, one of them has some experience. Ok well today we worked out and I did some bench pressing, triceps, biceps, traps. I dont know if that is all. Well, we are working mondays, wednesdays and fridays. I really need a workout plan for us or atleast for me. We are all about the same. I need it complete to the reps and sets and how to do them. Im really new to this like I have stated before. If anyone can help please do. Thank you.

ALSO help from CPL would be cool because I think he knows what he is talking about. I dont want to get SUPER ripped but I want to be able to have a nice big body while being able to play soccer easily. I know i need to bulk up and I have been trying to for like two weeks. OK thanks for the help.
Age: 17
Weight: 140-145
BF%: I dont know how to measure that so I dont know.
Currently: Bulking up.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 25, 2006 6:36 PM
OK, judging from the pictures you're at about13-15% body fat, which is pretty normal for a soccer player. You should be able to eat 3500 calories per day to really pack it on. Mind you, no chips, Big Macs, Whoppers, Pepsi, etc. I also suggest going to the nearest GNC and buying a giant can of whey protein. It worked wonders for me. Mix 3 cups of it with 3 cups of milk and drink it all immediatley after the workout (anything after 30 minutes diminishes the effect of the protein). During November (beginning of HS soccer) you should be at about 160. That'll be a good time to start cutting. GL MAN
SkandaL

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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 25, 2006 6:47 PM
thanks a lot man. 
Age: 17
Weight: 140-145
BF%: I dont know how to measure that so I dont know.
Currently: Bulking up.
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RE: A lot of help is needed - Friday, August 25, 2006 7:58 PM
Never milk post workout. Mix it with water and a banana to block cortisol which causes muscle's to not gain or even lose mass
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