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Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/17/2006 2:23:29 PM   
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Ive used creatine before with no negative side effects, such as bloating or diarrhea, so will it effect my kidney or liver.  I dont currently have any liver or kidney problems.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/18/2006 5:51:08 AM   
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Probally not. All I got at 15 y.o was taking a dump 6+ times a day. :)

But each to his own. Shouldnt kill your kidneys/liver too badly, if at all.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/18/2006 5:26:34 PM   
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Man I would just stick to the basics.

Multivitamin, Fishoil, Whey Protein, Water.

Take that stuff when your older, Im also 16 by the way.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/18/2006 7:14:59 PM   
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Creatine is in beef....thats why beef gives you the "big" feeling...

It is not a "drug."

It helps with between set recovery.  Thats it.  Which can help increase intensity.  Adds water volume to muscle sure...

But if your training is going fine...you don't really need it.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/29/2006 12:54:48 PM   
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i took it at 16 with no problems at all. the kidney problems come with not drinking enough water. if ur drinking extra water there should be no problem.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/29/2006 1:13:13 PM   
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im 15 and have some creatine...should i use it? i did but not for long enough and it tasted like s*** because it was plain(no taste actually..) and you could feel all the salty texture in ur mouth and at the back of your throat i almost herled most of the time...

but would it help make me bigger? SmileSmile

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 7/29/2006 7:21:43 PM   
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Creatine is in beef....thats why beef gives you the "big" feeling...

It is not a "drug."

It helps with between set recovery.  Thats it.  Which can help increase intensity.  Adds water volume to muscle sure...

But if your training is going fine...you don't really need it.


I read that creatine and protein, basically one of them helps you grow by adding fat to your muscle, when muscle grows it needs fat. Well, I got around 23% of body fat (mostly in my stomach, some in hands). Since I got enough of fat, do I need to take these protein shakes, creatine, etc. to help my muscle grow? So far my muscles have been improving, I dranked shakes couple of times with protein and creatine (most of the time with protein) to help muscles heal faster, but I don't see any difference when I don't use it at all. Should I keep on drinking or I'm good the way I am?

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/14/2006 5:40:59 AM   
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Well i am fifteen and so far from what ive heard its ok....but should you still load and use the reccomneded amount as adults or skip loading and use less???

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/14/2006 8:45:03 AM   
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There is no need to load...start with 1-3 grams consistently.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/14/2006 6:30:24 PM   
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1-3 grams? a day?!...is that really enough...how/when wold i take it?

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/14/2006 6:54:31 PM   
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Yes, 3g a day is just enough. Later on you can go up to 5g if you really would like to. If your going with the monohydrate Id recommend you to take it after your workout since if you try taking it before your workout, you will feel nauseated, and you will feel like throwing up. If you can find some dextrose sugar, take your monohydrate with it, If not, just mix with grape juice since it has dextrose sugar. But no Orange juice or some others.

If your taking CEE, simply follow directions, usually 2 caps in the morning and 2 after workout, but it varies.

Gallon of water a day, dont forget, especially with mono.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/14/2006 8:35:17 PM   
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THe exact time to take creatine really does not matter as it is systemic...meaning as long as you are consistent..it is in the system.

There is a slight benefit if you take it 1-hour before you train.  It takes an hour to peak in the blood and then the training actually targets it to the working muscles.

Otherwise..as 8pack said...not immediatly before you train.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/15/2006 5:04:39 AM   
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So loading isn't necessary? I was checking this brand, http://www.epharmacy.com.au/product.asp?id=43268&pname=Musashi+100%25+Pure+Creatine+Monohydrate+160g

and it seems there's a loading phase, 20-30grams! that's alot...anywayz, I'm currently using protein powder as a post-workout drink, and I'm thinking of juz eating food instead (although i noe it takes longer to digest than liquid) after i finish up with it, cos it's a bit expensive to having protein powder everytime, and plus i get enough protein during the day....

btw, I was checking wikipedia, and they were saying how scientists don't noe exactly why it causes weight gain, but possibly because of water retention. so this mean's if i take creatine, and gain weight, I'll most likely lose the weight?

i'm kinda thinkin of purchasing creatine so yea, if anyone noe's about that brand i mention......

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/15/2006 8:10:42 AM   
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quote:

btw, I was checking wikipedia, and they were saying how scientists don't noe exactly why it causes weight gain, but possibly because of water retention. so this mean's if i take creatine, and gain weight, I'll most likely lose the weight?

Science does know what leads to the weight gain.  Every gram of creatine phosphate that moves into the muscle stores water along with it.

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and it seems there's a loading phase, 20-30grams!

You can skip the loading phase.  It is not essential.

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 I'm currently using protein powder as a post-workout drink

You need to learn about how post workout nutrition works.  That is not the best idea.
we are discussing this here...
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/sugar_post-workout/m_169519/tm.htm

You shoudl learn from the posts in there that you need much less protein than you do the right carbs...so you might save money there by using half what you use now!

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I'm thinking of juz eating food instead

While not optimal because of the Anabolic Window...it is still fine!  But read that other thread!

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i'm kinda thinkin of purchasing creatine so yea, if anyone noe's about that brand i mention......

I don't know the company..but if it is in fact pure..that is fine.  But shop for best price per serving as well as purity.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/15/2006 10:17:47 AM   
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loading phases are to make you burn up the tub faster so companies make more money IMO.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/15/2006 2:40:48 PM   
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Yeah creatine will help you get bigger, if you take it right and exercise and eat right.  I took it at 13 and 14.  It didn't do me good then, but at 16 it would've.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/16/2006 1:24:11 AM   
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reply to danmirage:

yea, sorry i didn't mention anything, i meant i actually take protein with an apple immediately after a workout, then a meal within 1hr. i juz cut it short :D....anywayz back to creatine..

btw, with the weight gain i was reading from wikipedia, i'll juz quote it

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creatine
Some studies have shown that creatine supplementation increases both total and fat-free body mass, though it is difficult to say how much of this is due to the training effect. Since body mass gains of about 1 kg (about 2.2 pounds) can occur in a week's time, several studies suggest that the gain is simply due to greater water retention inside the muscle cells. However, studies into the long-term effect of creatine supplementation suggest that body mass gains cannot be explained by increases in intracellular water alone. In the longer term, the increase in total body water is reported to be proportional to the weight gains, which means that the percentage of total body water is not significantly changed. The magnitude of the weight gains during training over a period of several weeks argue against the water-retention theory.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/16/2006 7:54:16 AM   
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Ah, ok..thats pretty close!

They thought it was all water retention, until they did longer term studies...in which it was found that after stopping creatine...most of the gains remained.

That is my experience as well.  After 12 weeks, if I stop, I either drop about 2 pounds and keep all the rest of my gains, or continue to gain.  I would gain muscle anyway mind you. 

I gain 1-2 pounds a week either with or without creatine, when I am training and eating for muscle gains.

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/18/2006 2:56:58 AM   
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ok...what amount of creatine to take and how many days a wk (everyday?) would you recommend for a 19 yr old working out 4 times a day? And when to go on the resting period?

BTW, could you explain about the gaining mass part a bit simplier? Like the gains for a new taker etc....

and btw, how do you say if u wanna consume 3 grams, how do you take that amount exactly, cos it's a really small amount and hard to measure?

Thanks

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RE: Is Creatine Safe For A 16 Year Old? - 8/18/2006 3:06:26 AM   
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One last question, I'm looking at the same brand I mentioned earlier, and I wanna ask what the difference b/w these two if u know, the price difference is quite different b/w them....


Musashi 100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate 160g ($16.69)
Active Ingredient:
100% Pure Creatine Monohydrate

Musashi Growling Dog Creatine Powder 500g ($30.99)
Carbohydrate Transport Blend
99% Pure Pharmaceutical Grade
Creatine Monohydrate,
Also contains 5% Glucose.

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