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Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 2:14 PM
taken from http://www.thefactsaboutfitness.com/research/creatinesafety.htm

Creatine has established itself as one of the most effective and popular supplements available for people wanting to build muscle and improve performance. However, there are concerns that creatine is unsafe. Are the stories about creatine side effects that often appear in the popular press based on fact or fiction?
Creatine is a very popular supplement. That's mainly because it accelerates gains in muscle size and strength compared to exercise alone. In a 12-week trial by Jeff Volek and a research team from Pennsylvania State University, creatine users ended up stronger in both the squat and bench press compared with subjects using a "dummy" supplement [9]. They also gained twice as much muscle.
Creatine side effects
There are claims that creatine users are more susceptible to cramps, muscle spasms, and even pulled muscles. However, in a three-year study designed to find out whether these creatine side effects really do exist, creatine had no effect on the incidence of injury or cramping in a group of American footballers [2].
Research published in the journal Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise shows similar results [3]. In a group of 26 athletes using creatine for up to four years, there was no difference in the reported incidence of muscle cramp or injury compared with athletes not using creatine.
A more recent study, published in the September 2004 issue of the International Journal of Sports Medicine, also shows that creatine side effects are rare [11].
A group of 175 subjects received either 10 grams of creatine or placebo daily for an average period of 310 days. Diarrhea and nausea did cause three subjects to stop using creatine. But there were no other significant differences between the groups.
Researchers from Truman State University also report that long-term creatine use appears to be safe [7].
Twenty-three members of an NCAA Division II American football team were divided into a creatine group and a control group who took no supplements.
Subjects in the creatine group averaged 14 grams of creatine a day for three years. However, the researchers could find no detrimental effects on either kidney or liver function.
Most people aren't aware that creatine has protective effects in heart, muscle and neurological diseases. In fact, several months of creatine supplementation in men and women with borderline high cholesterol levels reduces very-low-density lipoprotein levels (the so-called "bad" cholesterol) by almost one-third [1].
Similar findings are reported in the journal Metabolism. Twenty-eight days of creatine supplementation and resistance exercise lowered total cholesterol levels to a greater extent than resistance exercise alone [10].
The bottom line
Carefully controlled studies over the short- (five days), medium- (nine weeks) and long-term (up to five years) have yet to demonstrate that creatine supplementation has any adverse effects on blood pressure, kidney or liver function in healthy individuals [3, 5, 6, 7, 8].

References
1. Earnest, C., Almada, A., & Mitchell, T. (1996). High-performance capillary electrophoresis-pure creatine monohydrate reduces blood lipids in men and women. Clinical Science, 91, 113-118
2. Greenwood, M., Kreider, R.B., Melton, C., Rasmussen, C., Lancaster, S., Cantler, E., Milnor, P., & Almada, A. (2003). Creatine supplementation during college football training does not increase the incidence of cramping or injury. Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry, 244, 83-88
3. Schilling, B.K., Stone, M.H., Utter, A., Kearney, J.T., Johnson, M., Coglianese, R., Smith, L., O'Bryant, H.S., Fry, A.C., Starks, M., Keith, R., & Stone, M.E. (2001). Creatine supplementation and health variables: a retrospective study. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 33, 183-188
4. Pritchard, N.R., & Kalra, P.A. (1998). Renal dysfunction accompanying oral creatine supplements. Lancet, 351, 1252-1253
5. Poortmans, J.R., & Francaux, M. (2000). Adverse effects of creatine supplementation: fact or fiction? Sports Medicine, 30, 155-170
6. Kreider, R.B., Melton, C., Rasmussen, C.J., Greenwood, M., Lancaster, S., Cantler, E.C., Milnor, P., & Almada, A.L. (2003). Long-term creatine supplementation does not significantly affect clinical markers of health in athletes. Molecular and Cellular Biochemistry, 244, 95-104
7. Mayhew, D.L., Mayhew, J.L., & Ware, J.S. (2002). Effects of long-term creatine supplementation on liver and kidney functions in American college football players. International Journal of Sport Nutrition and Exercise Metabolism, 12, 453-460
8. Vannas-Sulonen, K., Sipila, I., Vannas, A., Simell, O., & Rapola, J. (1985). Gyrate atrophy of the chloroid and retina: a five year follow-up of creatine supplementation. Opthalmology, 91, 1719-1727
9. Volek, J.S., Duncan, N.D., Mazzetti, S.A., Staron, R.S., Putukian, M., Gomez, A.L, Pearson, D.R, Fink, W.J., & Kraemer WJ. (1999). Performance and muscle fiber adaptations to creatine supplementation and heavy resistance training. Medicine and Science in Sports and Exercise, 31, 1147-1156
10. Arciero, P.J., Hannibal, N.S. 3rd, Nindl, B.C., Gentile, C.L., Hamed, J., & Vukovich, M.D. (2001). Comparison of creatine ingestion and resistance training on energy expenditure and limb blood flow. Metabolism, 50, 1429-1434
11. Groeneveld, G.J., Beijer, C., Veldink, J.H., Kalmijn, S., Wokke, J.H.J., & van den Berg, L.H. (2004). Few adverse effects of long-term creatine supplementation in a placebo-controlled trial. International Journal of Sports Medicine, 25
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 4:35 PM
BRAVO!  Excellent article!

You may indeed take that to the bank!

(Of course, I would be remiss if I didn't caveat that all of the studies quoted used individuals without a prior history of liver or kidney problems -if you have a preexisting kidney or liver condition, you really should check with your doctor to see if creatine will aggravate it.)
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 5:39 PM
i have no problems aside from having common allergies
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:41 PM
Yeah, most of the stuff with creatine is basically hype. The whole Mark Mcguire thing where he was basically one of the first major atheletes to use the stuff blew it up into near steroid like proportions in the minds of stupid morning sports radio hosts and tabloids. Its just one of those things that arn't 100% known and people generally dont do research and just go by what they hear. I mean I take creatine and I may get a little bigger and gain a little weight but people generally think that you will go from woody allen to Rambo in a weeks time
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 6:46 PM
my mom still thinks itll kill me, this post was ana ttempt to prove to her that is doesnt, but i showed her and it still wasnt enough evidence for her!!!!!
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Sunday, July 16, 2006 10:18 PM

people generally think that you will go from woody allen to Rambo in a weeks time

 
What'r you say'n buddy?
That I won't!?

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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Monday, July 17, 2006 4:57 AM
Screw that if you buy this poorly Labeled "Durandal's Blend Creatine" for $75 you will make those gains*
and I may throw in a prostitute if you buy 2

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Directions:Take one rounded spoonful with a glass of AIDS. For bonus effect slice your tounge for quick absorbtion
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Monday, July 17, 2006 8:14 AM
You are sick brother
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Monday, July 17, 2006 8:50 AM
lol
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Tuesday, August 01, 2006 10:56 PM
avairc, you showed ur mother this post,and you have that avitar or whatever u call it.. lol, howd she like it?
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Wednesday, August 02, 2006 6:49 AM
i still had my old avatar when she saw this post, lol, so there was no partial nudity.  hey im not complaining though, vida guerras hot.
 
as for me using creatine, i convinced my dad to let me sneak creatine behind my moms back.  so as of this coming saturday i should have an xceed review started.
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:23 PM
how do u get all of these other supps ordered online, and behind ur parents back, but not Xceed?? even though ur dads letting you get it.. because didnt have Lean Extreme taken away from u I believe?
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:27 PM
when should you take creatine? before or after workouts

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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Wednesday, August 02, 2006 1:47 PM
Unknown health risks


  • Doctors are still studying the benefits and risks of using creatine supplements. They don't know the long-term health effects, especially in bodies that are still growing.

  • Because of unknown health risks, children and adolescents under age 18 and women who are pregnant or nursing should never take creatine supplements.


People with kidney problems should also not take creatine supplements. No matter what your age or health condition, always see your doctor for advice before taking creatine supplements.
Easy to get, widespread use
Creatine supplements come in a wide variety of brand names and products and are available over-the-counter at vitamin, drug and grocery stores and on the Internet. Use of creatine supplements is widespread and expected to rise. Most of the people who use them are:


  • Male, although some are female.

  • In power sports (i.e., football, wrestling, hockey and bodybuilding), although some are in every sport.

  • At all levels of performance - from professional to amateur, college, high school and middle school. A recent study of middle and high school students aged 10-18 by the American Academy of Pediatrics found creatine use in all grades 6-12. About 5.6 percent of all study participants and 44 percent of athletes who are seniors in high school admitted taking creatine. Another study by the Blue Cross and Blue Shield Association found an estimated one million young people aged 12-17 have taken performance-enhancing sports supplements. Use of supplements was reported by 5 percent of participants.


About creatine and creatine supplements
Creatine is a source of energy for muscle contraction. The body produces its own creatine in the liver, kidneys and pancreas. You also get it in your diet when you eat meat or fish. (Vegetarians may have less creatine.) The body stores most of the creatine in skeletal muscle to use when you exercise. The rest goes in the heart, brain and other tissues.
Although people respond differently, taking creatine supplements may increase the amount of creatine in muscles.


  • Muscles may be able to generate more energy or generate energy at a faster rate.

  • Some people think taking creatine supplements along with training may improve performance for quick bursts of intense energy, such as sprinting and weightlifting.


Vegetarians and other people with lower amounts of natural creatine may see more of a difference from taking creatine supplements. There may be a "saturation point" that limits how much creatine muscles can store.
Supplements not always safe
Although creatine is a "natural" product, it is not always safe to take creatine supplements.


  • The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) does not regulate nutritional supplements. This means creatine products vary in amount and quality, and there is no guarantee of safety or purity.

  • According to a recent Mayo Clinic study, many young athletes who take creatine supplements rely upon the advice of friends, not doctors. Some do not know how much creatine they are taking and may take more than they should.


Side effects
People who take creatine supplements may gain weight caused by muscles holding water. Other side effects of long-term use include muscle cramps, dehydration, diarrhea, nausea and seizures. It may be dangerous to take creatine supplements while undergoing dehydration (i.e., for wrestling competition) or if you are trying to lose weight.


  • No one knows what may happen to important organ systems like the heart, brain, kidneys, liver and reproductive organs if you take creatine supplements.

  • No one knows what may happen if you combine creatine supplements with over-the-counter medications, prescription drugs, vitamins, etc.


Medical researchers are studying the safety and effectiveness of creatine supplements. They also are studying if creatine supplements may help to treat diseases that cause muscles to shrink and fail, such as heart failure/disease, muscular/neuromuscular diseases, and stroke.
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RE: Long term effects of creatine, fact or fiction - Wednesday, August 02, 2006 3:15 PM

ORIGINAL: x32176x35984

how do u get all of these other supps ordered online, and behind ur parents back, but not Xceed?? even though ur dads letting you get it.. because didnt have Lean Extreme taken away from u I believe?

i have a paypal account that i have money on from selling stuff, so i used that money to order stuff off of ebay.  i got away with the melting point because i ordered it with something else and just showed my parents the other thing.  the reason i got my lean xtreme ripped from me is because i ordered it by itself, so i had to show them.  i couldnt order xceed online because i  dont need anything else, so i have nothing to order with so i can hide it, lol
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