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RE: Looking for mass... - 3/27/2007 11:23:26 AM   
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3 sets per with 15-20 reps w/resistance bands
Legs, Back, Chest, Shoulders, Biceps, Triceps

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Free weights 10 - 12 reps!
2x Deadlift/ 1x Bent Row
3x Squat
3x Dumbell Bench on Stability Ball
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RE: Looking for mass... - 4/3/2007 2:18:52 PM   
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Weighed in at 182 today.  Lost some muscle while travelling.

Calipers are at another location...I will updat this in a reasonable fashion when I am settled.

Training today, similar to the above:
sets x Exercise WeightxReps E/C/I  Rest
3x Deadlift 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Squat 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Bent Row 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Dumbell Bench on Stability Ball 50x15/12/8   4/1/1  30
3x BB Curls 60x12/8/8   4/1/1  30
2x Lying Triceps extension on Stability Ball 30x15   4/1/1  30
2x Shoulder Press 60x12   4/1/1  30
2x Weighted crunch  20x15 4/1/1 30

50 minutes

Pre
5 G CM
5 G L-Arganine
7 G BcAA

During
5G Bcaa
Diluted banana

Post
7g BCaa post

Skin was about to rip off my muscles at end...shaking...

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RE: Looking for mass... - 4/8/2007 5:50:04 PM   
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sets x Exercise WeightxReps E/C/I 

ss 1:00 rests
3x Deadlift 125x15/12/10 4/1/1 
3x Squat 125x15/12/10 4/1/1 

ss 1:00 rest
3x Dumbell Bench on Stability Ball 55x15/12/10   4/1/1
3xDB 1-arm Bent Row 55x15/12/10 4/1/1

ss 1:00 rests
3x DB Curls 30x9/8/8   4/1/1 
2x Standing Triceps extension 30x15/12/9   4/1/1 

ss 1:00 rests
1x Shoulder Press 60x15   4/1/1  30
1x Weighted crunch 20x15

Pre
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5 G L-Arganine
7 G BcAA

During
5G Bcaa
Diluted banana (very little)

Post
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RE: Looking for mass... - 4/24/2007 1:15:07 PM   
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Travelling quite a bit.

Full body training sessions.

4/20 and 4/23

Details on later sessions!

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RE: Looking for mass... - 5/18/2007 12:15:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: danmirage
Training today, similar to the above:
sets x Exercise WeightxReps E/C/I  Rest
3x Deadlift 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Squat 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Bent Row 115x15 4/1/1  30
3x Dumbell Bench on Stability Ball 50x15/12/8   4/1/1  30
3x BB Curls 60x12/8/8   4/1/1  30
2x Lying Triceps extension on Stability Ball 30x15   4/1/1  30
2x Shoulder Press 60x12   4/1/1  30
2x Weighted crunch  20x15 4/1/1 30

50 minutes



jw is this hard for u? im sure u know what ur doing im just asking cause im not that strong and im 155lb. and u've been training for 20 yrs. or something and ur probablly much stronger than me but the deadlift and squat just seems like really light weight even for me.

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RE: Looking for mass... - 5/19/2007 9:20:42 AM   
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You are correct sir!

That client only has 115 pounds. 
I can deadlift 4-5x that amount when I am training and I casually train with 300 pounds.

In order to make it more intense, I use EXTREMELY short rest periods and train with a ton of intensity through continuous maximal muscle activation.  You can see the eccentric (lowering) is 4 seconds.  But the Conccentric (raising) is 1 second/accelerated, with a 1 second maximal isometric contraction at either end.

Remember, Time Under Tension!!!!

1/2 way through this routine I am gasping for breath.

These routines are maintenance work while I am travelling.

Once I get moved in, you will see different routines!

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/6/2007 9:29:34 AM   
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Juen 6

My home is moved, my gym is built...I'll start again thank you

Double split for now
Gotta warm the bod back up to getting hammered

Pre
Creatine
Arginine
Thionine
BCAA

Post
BCAA
Carbs

AM
Warm up
Deadlifts
Bent Rows

PM
Warm up
Curls
Calves

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/6/2007 10:38:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: danmirage

You are correct sir!

That client only has 115 pounds. 
I can deadlift 4-5x that amount when I am training and I casually train with 300 pounds.

In order to make it more intense, I use EXTREMELY short rest periods and train with a ton of intensity through continuous maximal muscle activation.  You can see the eccentric (lowering) is 4 seconds.  But the Conccentric (raising) is 1 second/accelerated, with a 1 second maximal isometric contraction at either end.

Remember, Time Under Tension!!!!

1/2 way through this routine I am gasping for breath.

These routines are maintenance work while I am travelling.

Once I get moved in, you will see different routines!


Do you think it's safe to do the concentric portion of a deadlift in one second? I would worry about injuring my back again.Smile

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/7/2007 1:53:32 PM   
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First, if there is a prior injury then I would make sure there are no imbalances or adaptation in the muscle patterns.
Break the cycle of injury. Then I would work up to it.

However, this IS NOT with maximal weight.
115 pounds is less than a warm up weight for me.

At maximal (or near) weight I doubt I would trry, much less be able to use this kind of acceleration.

That said, acceleration (velocity) recuits muscle differently than steady/slow motion.
Force x Velocity =

Force is the weight.  So if the weight is higher, the velocity is likely lower.

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/7/2007 2:30:48 PM   
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Oh ok. I was worried there for a minute it sounded like you were gonna throw out your back! But I know you're too smart for that, that's why I asked.

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/7/2007 4:37:23 PM   
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Aww shucks Smile

Thanks for looking out for me Smile

I mean that.

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/7/2007 4:45:40 PM   
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Ooops  Obsessed with my muse...missed my "b" workout yesterday...


Warm up
Flat Dumbbell
Military Dumbbell
Curls

PM into the AM....dancing!

Tomorrow double split with legs and back...




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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/16/2007 10:17:43 PM   
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Well, that does it. 

I am moved in and back from Vegas where I attended the (ISSN) International Society of Sports Nutrition annual conference.

Lots of good information there!

In the mean time...I don't have a scale...mine is in Vermont...oops.
So I will not bother with stats until I have all the equipment for proper measurements.

Meals every 3-4 hours
8:30
11:30
2:30
5:30
8:00

Pre w/o
Banana
Whey
Creatine
1 hour pre workout 3-5 grams


7:45 start

Velocity
1:0:pause to allow stretch to disperse:1

Deadlift
100 x12
150 x12

BCAA 5 grams
.035 g per pound of bodyweight or 1/4 teaspoon per 35 pounds

Chest DB press
35/side x12
50/side x13

1-arm bent row
50x15
70x12

Squat
100 x12
140 x13

SLDL
50x12
70x12

Military press
50x12
70x12

8:30 Coold down.
Post workout
Banana
Whey

9:15 Meal

Also using these supplements:
Fish Oil 2 teaspoons a day right now
Vegan One Multiple Multivitamin  - AM
Glucosamine and Chondroitine - AM
C-500  - With some meals
B-50 complex  - With some meals
Anti-Oxidant - PM
L-Arginine  4-6 grams pre bed

Just getting use to the space and pace.
Not trying to push RMs or anything...just mental preparation for next weeks workouts.

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RE: Looking for mass... - 6/28/2007 1:00:13 PM   
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I have read alot of your posts and cannot figure out if you are a vegetarian or vegan or neither? If vegan, do you post a more detailed version of your diet and where most of your protein comes from?

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/8/2007 8:21:01 PM   
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I was a vegan bodybuilder in the 80s and a Vegetarian Bodybuilder in the 90s.

It is all about food combining and making up for special vegetarian deficiencies like creatine and carnitine.

Protein is NOT generally the big deal.  A proper balance of Calories is!


Bar weight is excluded (7' cap barbell = 20 lbs)
7/8/07
Bi BB curl
40x15
60x10
70x8

Tri DB FR Press
40x12
50x10
60x8

Shoulder
Military BB
50x15
70x12
90x9

rearLat free wt
10x15
10x15
10x15

abs weighted crunch
25x15
25x15
25x15


7/7/07
1 arm bent row db
40 x15
50 x15
70 x12

DB Bench
50x16
60x12
70x8

Leg-X
50x15
75x15
100x12

SLDL
50x15
70x12
90x12



7/1/06
Bent Row
50x20
100x20
120x12
140x10

Curl
50x12
60x10

Deadlift
60x20 deceleration/stop/explosive

Crunches

6/25/07 11:15
Deadlift
100 x15
150 x15

Chest BB press
100 x15
120 x10

bent row
100x15
150x10

DB Military press
30x15
70x12

Squat
100 x15
140 x15

sldl
50x15
70x15
11:50

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/15/2007 8:41:09 PM   
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No scale yet, so no stats.

As soon as I have one the s**t is gonna hit the fan.

7/15
Deadlift
150x12
160x12
170x12

Squat
130x12
140x12
150x12

Chest Press
110x12
120x12
130x10

Rowe
130x12
140x12
150x9

Still Leg Dead lift
60x12
70x12
80x15

Military
70x12
80x12
90x9

Curl
50x12
60x8
60x7

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/15/2007 8:44:11 PM   
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quote:

I have read alot of your posts and cannot figure out if you are a vegetarian or vegan or neither? If vegan, do you post a more detailed version of your diet and where most of your protein comes from?


I was a vegetarian for many many years as a bodybuilder.

My primary protein came from food combining.

Rice and Lentils with veggies and nuts was a favorite.

It takes planning to be a growing bodybuilder as a vegetarian, but once you have the plan, it's nothing.

Do you want to be a vegan bodybuilder?

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/15/2007 10:16:52 PM   
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I never really checked out your journal before.. I notice your reps are high your weight is very light...   I figured you would be using more your form must be very slow and controlled.

Talking to all the biggest guys I know I never realised that they all use the same rep ranges as you a couple told me that 10 was the lowest the normally go.. 15 - 18 reps being the highest..  But they gradually kept increasing weight over time so they are training is fairly large amounts of weight..  Do you ever do that?  Increase your 15 rep range weight ?   I thought you also add weight to your lifts as you bring down the reps?

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/15/2007 10:35:09 PM   
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I just moved in after being on the road for about a year it seems.  I trained seriously last in September.  Everything else has been maintenance since then.

At the same time I am starting a pre-med course and how many med students do you know that can compete...yea, very few.

The workload I have is intense.  I have 4 mid-terms next week.

I don't have a scale so I am loath to train in earnest to get my size back until I can keep my diet and training in a tight control. 
Less wasted time that way.

You can look back over the 2005-2006 logs and see the way I used undulating training variation to keep the gains going. 
On page 2 you can see the whole year plotted with diet and gains.

Pyramids (raising weight and lower reps) is one way to train, gradual increase in weight over time is another,  I know well over 100 variations for intensity.

Right now I am using Eccentric Acceleration followed with high rate deceleration and deloading, followed by explosive concentric motion.

It allows me to use these lighter weights but still work at the relative threshold of my neural ability.

Additionally, I use minimal rest and supersets where possible (SLDL and Military for example) so the intensity gets quite high quickly.

I have no spotter and train in my own gym, so I have to use alternate methods to Max weight on some lifts. (i.e. Chest)

Finally, I am still coming up out of maintenance and want to milk every centemeter of gains, so rather than go to max weights, I am inching my way up.

I am not in top condition and have lost plenty of muscle and strength (strength is secondery to me).  I loath seeing the first LBM figures when I get a scale. Smile

I have no idea where I am right now!

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RE: Looking for mass... - 7/16/2007 5:15:06 PM   
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Hey thats pretty damn smart with the military press sdls to up the intensity.  Standing military would probably help even more so wouldn't you think?  Also would work the lower back as a secondary because its used as a stabalizing muscle. 

Damn your a pretty smart guy.  I have a hard time dieting... I really don't get to into It I mean I like to eat and I try to eat well but its hard for me to measure out everything so my newest diet is just don't stop eating Lmao.  I don't think I have been eating enough at this weight anyways.  

You don't have alot of time on your hands....  I bet you don't have much of a social life.

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New Scale weight - coming soon.

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