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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/11/2006 6:18:35 PM   
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I do 100 for 8 reps, so dont feel too bad, im just glad someone else has my problem too lol.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/12/2006 1:13:09 PM   
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Date: 07/12/2006
Objective: Hypertrophy
Split Designation: Legs

Exercise             Sets (Weight/Reps*)
Squats               230/10    230/10    240/10    250/10    260/10
    300/.10
Hamstring Curl        85/10     85/10     85/10     85/11     85/11
Standing Calf Raise  260/20    260/20    260/20    260/20
DB Lunge              30/10     30/10     30/10     30/10
*Decimal values represent partial reps (ex 8.4 = eight full reps + four partial reps)

Notes:

This was essentially a repeat of my last leg workout, with a few minor increases here and there.  I kept my promise not to start my squats off with anything below 230, but repeated the same poundages from last time, with the same awesome, mind-blowing results.

Hammies were still a little sloppy on set 4 & 5, so I'm going to hold here for now.  I also noticed, after watching video of me doing hamstring curls, that I'm coming up off the bench too far -so clearly, my form needs some improvement on this exercise.

I dropped SCR's back to 20 reps and focused on stricter form with 260.  Suffice to say, I think I'm wasting my time doing these after squats, because I'm still seeing too much assist from my quads, and I never feel like I've really stimulated my calves.  I need to improvise a calf isolation solution.

Still dealing with my shin injury issue, so no leg extensions today -I substituted DB lunges again, and once again, I brough tmyself practically to tears with the pain.  Mmmmmmmm... So niiiice!

Tomorrow is another insufferable rest day.  Let the nail-biting begin.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 3:44:21 PM   
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Today is a day off Smile

I hate days off...

BUT, they are necessary!  So I'm going to borrow a page from Nav's book and go find *something else* to do...  Maybe twice. Smile

I KNOW!  I'll go score a pair of lifting straps!  'Cause God knows I'm gonna need them to attempt deadlifts at the END of tomorrow's back workout Smile  Besides, I need a new pair of gloves too... I left my last ones in my Jeep by mistake and they got rained on -turned completely moldy Smile

Now, here's the tricky part: I'm trying to talk myself into going to the beach this weekend with the Jeep and my dog, but I'd be missing out on my next two workouts Smile Smile Smile.  Let's see... stay home and do laundry, and get all three workouts, or go to the beach and cruise all the hot, bikini-clad trim with my shirt off, the top down, and the radio thumpin'... Smile  So, I guess the real question is, should I bring windsurfer trunks or board shorts?

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 4:25:19 PM   
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HA HA HA HA Smile  Thank GOD!  I thought I was the only one with the Fischer Price weight set Smile

Just kidding, G.  You're right.  Results -WHATEVER it takes.  I'm gonna take my bruised ego over to Primo's and stuff myself with veggie lasagna Smile


Milos Sarcev says that it truely about the weight at all, more about halving the weight and doing proper form, and squeezing your pecs as hard as you can while you doing your reps...... Interesting that he says something like he has taken people doing 400+ (PRO BB's) on benches and had to lower them to 200 doing proper form squeezing, then watching their chests explode..

So you could just say your benching Milos style.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 7:10:34 PM   
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Milos would know.  He is the Man.

I've always thought that too.  If you aren't squeezing the holy hell out of a muscle when you contract it under load, you're wasting your time.

But there is at least one scientific principle at play behind the idea of working with the heaviest weight you can: it is believed that muscle motor units are recruited for contraction based on their dominant fiber type, and that the motor units comprised mainly of Type IIx (fast twitch) fibers -the largest and most capable of huge growth- don't kick in at all until after you've recruited all of your Type I and Type IIa fibers, in that order.  The theory is that working with weight at or beyond 70% of your maximum exhausts those smaller Type I "endurance" fibers to the point where they scream for help from the larger Type IIa "power" fibers, which in turn scream for help from the Type IIx "Mac Daddy" fibers.  All of this happens very rapidly, of course -like in the span of six or seven repetitions of any resistance exercise, depending on the weight used.

The chain of screaming rolls uphill, like a chain of command.  If you don't hit at least 70% of the work capability of your smallest fibers, they aren't going to risk getting their butts chewed out by waking up the strongest and largest fibers (when they weren't needed).  Anyone who works in a Network Operations Center knows this as the "chain of escalation".  The guy at the help desk is a Type I fiber, there to take lots and lots of flak from customers, until the problem supersedes his ability to handle it; then the Type I fiber techie can make a call to his Type IIa Tier-two support techie, who will assist.  But if The Type I fiber techie just picks up the phone and calls the Type IIx Vice President of the department fiber without a really good reason to do so, he's gonna get his butt chewed.

I'm guessing that Milos is onto something here by pointing out that you can indeed turn most moderate-weight exercises into maximal efforts by contracting the muscle waaaaay beyond what is absolutely necessary to perform the lift.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 7:50:17 PM   
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Milos would know.  He is the Man.

<snip>

I'm guessing that Milos is onto something here by pointing out that you can indeed turn most moderate-weight exercises into maximal efforts by contracting the muscle waaaaay beyond what is absolutely necessary to perform the lift.


Science aside, Milos' results--on him and his proteges--speak volumes of why, even if there wasn't a plausible scientific explanation, it's worth a shot.  I mean, damn!

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 8:27:58 PM   
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LOL you put it into NOC talk hehehehehe....gotta show this to my team who seems to screw up the escalations daily lol...."Oh that remedy ticket with a long string of numbers was a circuit ID for a oc-48"........needless to say I am in the VP's office weekly kissing the boots about to enter my rump...Smile

But here is the deal, if you squeeze your chest as hard as you possibly can, you are working your chest at its maximum potential, If you drop the weight a bit, squeeze hard as hell and do less reps because you cant do anymore, I would say you have exhausted your body, and possibly guaranteed that you have done so, instead of possibly exhausting supporting muscle groups trying to do more weight without absolute perfect form.

*Note not saying your not perfect* Smile

How many times have you heard about people that can't lift a whole lot but has twice the chest or (beefcakeness) as someone that can lift 2-3X the weight. I know I have heard it alot, even on this site as well.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/13/2006 8:33:42 PM   
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HA HA HA HA!  Would you believe I completely forgot you said you work in a NOC when I went off on that analogy? Smile  That's called serendipity!  (actually, some call it s**tty short-term memory, LOL!)

Anyway, now I'm glad I went there, 'cause I know you can relate to that one Smile

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/14/2006 5:06:14 AM   
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There is a total stud (I mean, stud, he could have the ego if he wanted) who workouts at my gym.  His weights are always low compared to some of the other (less studly, smaller) guys.  30# dumbbells as the max weight for 20" biceps (that's what they look like).  Probably a combination of freaky genetics and knowing something we don't know.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/14/2006 5:25:08 AM   
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quote:

Probably a combination of freaky genetics and knowing something we don't know.

Yeah, it's called "smarter, not harder", HA HA HA HA HA! Smile

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/14/2006 7:42:56 PM   
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Your right, it is a freaky gene Its the beefcake chromasone....... Someday I aspire to change my name on this site to beefcake...or something like beefcake711 if its taken Smile

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/17/2006 4:10:00 PM   
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Brett... you are making me sad... where are your workouts for the past 3 days?

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/17/2006 4:29:38 PM   
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Ooooo... BUSTED! Smile

Sorry 'bout that.  I hit a bit of an existential speed bump this weekend.  I flaked on Friday, and somehow that turned into "blow off the whole set".  Sucks how that happens.  Hot & Cold, I tell ya.

I put in a few reps of this and that on Saturday and Sunday, but nothing worth logging.  Just had a bummer crapsicle of a weekend.

That's a'ight tho -'tis a new week.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/17/2006 4:42:56 PM   
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Heck, it was just your "resting time"

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/18/2006 10:18:51 AM   
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Come on veg.  Another step!

The trail ain't getting any shorter.  It's never going away.  What do I have to do to convince you?  Get off your ass and do what you have to do.  Do what everyone else you've ever envied has had to do! Smile

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/18/2006 8:23:12 PM   
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Yeah do it man... Be my inspiration.... I don't want to quit, so don't quit!

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/19/2006 8:02:02 AM   
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I'm a little concerned veg....you might be working out a little too hard.  It appears that it's made you start talking to yourself......or even worse.....writing to yourself!

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/19/2006 10:03:28 AM   
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LOL next step is PM's from himself.

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/19/2006 11:37:46 AM   
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Veggina!  You are making me cry!!!!

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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 7/19/2006 2:38:43 PM   
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Date: 07/18/2006
Objective: Hypertrophy
Split Designation: Back, Chest & Arms

Exercise             Sets (Weight/Reps*)
Chinup                 -/12      -/7       -/5       -/5
DB Pullover           50/10     50/10     50/10     50/10
Low Cable Row        120/10    120/10    120/10    120/10
Bent DB Row           45/12     45/12     45/12     45/12
Dec Bench Press      120/8     120/8     120/8     120/8
Incline DB Press      30/10     30/10     30/10     30/10
Alt DB Curl           30/10     30/10
Tricep Rope Press     40/10     40/10
*Decimal values represent partial reps (ex 8.4 = eight full reps + four partial reps)


Notes:

Oooops!  My bad Smile  I got to chatting with Nic & Clive last night, and I completely forgot to log the workout I did yesterday.  No tears, please... Save them for your leg workouts Smile

This last week was kinda screwy, and for no good reason.  First time I flaked since the begining of July, but I'm over stressing about a few missed days now.  Next week will be the last week in my current six-month bulking cycle, and I will finish it well below target.  This past six months has been a proverbial mixed bag of dissapointments, and I didn't make anywhere NEAR the progress I was planning to.

So, no biggie.  I'm gonna take it like a man and re-tool for phase three.  The nice part is, I had such great results from working out through the fall and colder months of December and January, that I'm thinking it will be much easier to stay focused for phase three.  Once the weather warms up, my mind is elsewhere.  Working out and following a weekly plan with religious fervor last year kept me out of my typical seasonal depression, and really helped pass the time.  Now, even though I still feel the same (confidence and self image-wise) as I did last year, at least I'm going into Phase three with 20 more pounds of lean mass on my scrawny ass.  I was too conservative with phase two, and I'll be keeping that in mind for the next step.

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