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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/15/2007 9:04:45 PM
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veggeep
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Bench Press 110/8 110/8 110/8.4
Dumbells?... damn man.. if those are dumbells that more reps then i do... i think i could only hit the 110's like 6times.. not sure though i never start off with DB's.
Yeah. I wish  LOL!
That, my good man, is the bar, unfortunately.
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/16/2007 1:29:14 AM
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Bret, have you considered changing your rep ranges to a lower range such as 5-6 reps?
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/16/2007 5:18:02 AM
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Bret, have you considered changing your rep ranges to a lower range such as 5-6 reps?
Actually, 8 is the new, lowered rep range for me  I have always aimed for 10-12. I have found that 8 reps are just right for reaching near muscular failure, while leaving me enough steam for all 4 or 5 sets (depending on what else I'm doing for chest on that day). And it seems to be working. My chest measurement is up more than 2" since the low point on my graph, and I have visibly more pectoral bulk going on these days.
The most likely explanation for the low numbers is that I'm kidding myself about how hard I'm pushing it. Now that I think about it, maybe those 8 reps were too easy.
In any case, I just finished reading an article about how training to failure on every (or even most) sets is actually counterproductive, because it increases cortisol production and triggers all kind of catabolic reactions. I'm not going to toss failure completely out of my program, but I don't think it should be in every one of my workouts either.
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...Are you training for strength, or are you training for size?!? Hmmmm?!?
And 8 beautiful reps with a lower weight beats half-assed reps at 225 (which seems to be the "magic" number around here).
Hmmmm...  Excellent point, as usual, Z. Sometimes I forget my mission here, but I have stated it before: as long as I get my pecs up to the aesthetic standard I'm persuing, I don't care how much I can bench. 
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/17/2007 11:40:34 PM
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damn, that's alot of exercises for one workout. How the hell do you manage to do Bench, Squat, Deadlift in one session! I remembered when I tried squats and deadlifts together in the same workout, and I was like screwed totally after that workout.
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/18/2007 6:03:10 AM
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damn, that's alot of exercises for one workout. How the hell do you manage to do Bench, Squat, Deadlift in one session! I remembered when I tried squats and deadlifts together in the same workout, and I was like screwed totally after that workout.
He he he he he... grrrrrrr! 
Hells yeah. It's brutal. But then, this is my idea of an anabolic shock workout. Not to be used often I have two more of these to do before I go back to my push/pull/legs & abs split, and I have reached a couple of conclusions about it.
First, it definitely provides and anabolic shock. If the side effects are any indication, my testosterone is off the charts this week. The night sweats were unreal, I feel restless and impatient all day, I've got six new zits on my BACK  and I can't stop "roughing up the suspect", LOL!
Second, even though I've come to crave working out these days, taking every other day off feels like a motivation-killer. By the time I get to lunchtime on the workout day, I'm starting to make excuses and wonder if it wouldn't be better to put it off until after work (especially considering this takes about 60-70 minutes). And we all know what happens when I aquiesce to that... "After work" becomes "after dinner", which turns into "well, after I put in this load of laundry", which ends up sounding a lot like "okay, I didn't know the floor was that dirty, maybe after I vaccuum..." So after this week, I'm going to find a way to get a workout on every single day of the week until my motivation wanes. maybe just fill in my former off-days with some light abdominal work or something.
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/18/2007 2:20:20 PM
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OH BTW veg... I dont see alot of upward movement in your routines... Like incline press military press flys at an incline angle. Is there a reason for that? or maybe I just missed it in your journal i didnt look all the way through.
Have you ever tried standing military press? Omg man thats hard, I tried it the last time i worked out and felt like a weakling!
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/18/2007 2:42:55 PM
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You're right. I only recently added vertical pushing movements like standing mil presses to my routine. I thought I was getting enough front delt stimulus from inclined DB presses and front DB raises, but the truth of it is, I've been wussing out on real deltoid work
By 135 bench, I take it you mean two plates on a standard bar?
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/19/2007 5:39:06 AM
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veggeep
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No new pics yet, Brett?!? Your fans await!
And they're gonna keep waiting 'till Feb 3rd  I'm gonna wrap up this six-month phase with a new batch of pics, I promise. Then I'll start Phase IV with a whole new journal
In the mean time, you'll just have to settle for a new sig pic every week
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/20/2007 9:28:53 AM
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veggeep
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Actually I ment 2 plates on an olympic bar... 45 on each side + 45lb olympic bar weight.
Yeah... that's what I meant. I forgot that the smaller, 1" bar is refered to as "standard"
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You know Veg the upper chest and deltoids are one of the most impressive muscles <-- well in my opinion. On most people.
That straight line running across the upper chest that covers the collar bones.. Man of man that looks awsome! Not to mention if you want to get a bit more braud those standing military press is going to help.
Agreed. Delts make the man. Granted, there's a lot to be said for thick pecs -I mean I won't be happy until I'm throwin' down that pronounced "shelf" of muscle above my abs, but you're absolutely right. I mean, check out this dude from my MySpace friends list (attached pic). That's just SICK delt development, IMO.
Anyhoo... Looks like the Veggilante met his match with those total-body workouts  I actually blew one off on Thursday  Truth be told, it wasn't the workouts that killed me -it was the forced day off between each one. I swear to God, it's the off-days that are effing with my consistency! The more off-days I work into my routine, the easier it is for me to goof off. I have one more of those total-body workouts today, and I'm gonna hit it just as soon as I click "Submit" on this post, but that's the last time I revert to total-body workouts.
Here's the final outcome: I know one week is nowhere near long enough to make a judgement about a given workout plan, but I'm convinced that once you get past your first round of beginner's gains, full-body workouts don't provide any more of an anabolic shock than a moderate split routine does. In fact, it may be just a function of skipping Thursday's pump, but the majority of my measurements this week flatlined. Nothing atrophied, thank God, but very little grew, either. I put that down to the fact that a total body workout may generate more cortisol (from taking twice as long to complete), and doesn't sufficiently challenge any given muscle group in the first place. Three sets is not enough to bitch-slap my pecs or quads into growing, even with the flood of hormones that hitting the whole body at once produces
Bottom line, my weekly average for bodyweight hit the 163 lb mark, and that makes me pee all over myself with glee, because it means that I am back in uncharted territory I'm finally back to the weight I hit at the end of last February's "Bulking contest", and every single pound I gain from here foreward will be a record-breaker
Now, if you'll pardon me, I have to go pay my dues for goofing this week.
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Yes, that's me in my avatar, and NO, I don't look like that today. That was taken back in Jan '07, and I lost most of that progress when I slacked off last year. I'm on my way back, tho, and I'm using that photo for inspiration.
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RE: Veggeep's Bulking & Shredding & Just Plain Lovin' t... - 1/20/2007 12:39:11 PM
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veggeep
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'Chew talkin' 'bout, Willis?! I ain't posting at 2AM  Well, I was a coulpe weeks ago, but I've been a good boy for the past few nights.
To be perfectly honest (and completely freaking insane) Coop, I'm rather begining to enjoy the side effects Something about waking up drenched in sweat every night lets me know that everything's ticking along at top speed, ha ha ha ha! Zits?? Two seconds in Photoshop, LOL! As long as they don't start popping up on my face, that is
I wonder if one really can stimulate aromatizing side effects with natural testosterone production? Probably not. Those PCT stacks are designed to kickstart your balls back on their own T production and block those aromatizing enzymes from trying to balance out the extra T you pumped during an anabolic cycle. I'm sure it's not necessary when all the T is produced naturally.
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Yes, that's me in my avatar, and NO, I don't look like that today. That was taken back in Jan '07, and I lost most of that progress when I slacked off last year. I'm on my way back, tho, and I'm using that photo for inspiration.
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