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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 12:20:41 AM   
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Can you rephrase that... "Then wake up 45 minutes earlier and get a PWO in!  THen resistance train..then cardio..." ???



Wake up 45 minutes earlier in the morning... get a PREWORKOUT shake in... then resistance train.. then do cardio... That way you get the optimal results from doing Resistance AND cardio training in one session.

Have fun! Smile

Would the same apply in taking BCAA's (immediately before) in lieu of the pre-workout shake?

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 6:07:31 AM   
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Thanks for the translation Lynx! Smile

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 8:33:16 AM   
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The point is you do NOT want to resistance train without eating (complete meal) first if your goal is to hold on to or even add muscle.

You would ALSO want to have the BCAAs.

Since you can only do the combo resistance and cardio training in the one block of AM time...I recommend you make sure you EAT and take BCAA/PWO.

BCAA pre resistance and post cardio as always...

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 8:43:08 AM   
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The point is you do NOT want to resistance train without eating (complete meal) first if your goal is to hold on to or even add muscle.

You would ALSO want to have the BCAAs.

Since you can only do the combo resistance and cardio training in the one block of AM time...I recommend you make sure you EAT and take BCAA/PWO.

BCAA pre resistance and post cardio as always...

How about training to increase Type I muscle fibers (fat burning) by endurance training, would the same apply?

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 8:49:04 AM   
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How about training to increase Type I muscle fibers (fat burning) by endurance training, would the same apply?

You would likely either do this training as a part of your workout or as the cardio portion..so it is the same, right?

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 9:10:37 AM   
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How about training to increase Type I muscle fibers (fat burning) by endurance training, would the same apply?

You would likely either do this training as a part of your workout or as the cardio portion..so it is the same, right?

1) I'm planning to start bodyweight training (endurance/repetitive) for a little while, in lieu of my previous hypertrophy workout, however, I'll still do full body hypertrophy workouts around twice a week to conserve more muscle...

2) I see in your journal that you take Cal/Mag supplements 3 times a day, how many mg's of Cal/Mag do you consume daily?

3) What was the cause of you reaching "8/18/05 - 175lbs - 20%BF"? (Injury?)
 
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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 10:02:15 AM   
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2) I see in your journal that you take Cal/Mag supplements 3 times a day, how many mg's of Cal/Mag do you consume daily?


My target calcium was determined by my particular chemisty.
It is an optimum daily intake and is very high.
I actually only take the cal/mag 1x a day right now. 
My total daily intake of calcium dietary and supplemental is what I look at.
I can not tell you what it is at the moment...
About 850/350 from Multi and Cal/mag...

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3) What was the cause of you reaching "8/18/05 - 175lbs - 20%BF"? (Injury?)

I had a long period (years) of layoff from intense training and took a very long (90 days or so) Road trip! 

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I'll still do full body hypertrophy workouts around twice a week to conserve more muscle...

that is an essential if you want to keep your muscle..muscle burns fat..etc..

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 10:07:19 AM   
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Thanks again Dan!

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 12:20:47 PM   
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1) Which is a better oatmeal choice (also GI wise)?...

A) Old Fashioned Quaker Oats (Nutrition Facts):
http://www.quakeroatmeal.com/qo_ourProducts/quakerOats/product.cfm?productid=3
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B) Quaker Steel Cut Oats (Nutrition Facts): http://www.quakeroatmeal.com/qo_ourProducts/quakerOats/product.cfm?productid=4
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2) Which MultiVitamin do you use?

3) Why'd you choose Country Life - Calcium-Magnesium Complex 1000mg/500mg - 90 Tablets: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009VM4UE/personalsuc02-20?creative=327641&camp=14573&adid=1QD44C9Q071YD1ATWZ6S&link_code=as1, over all the other cal/mag supplements out there?

Thanks for replying in advance! Smile

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 3:02:59 PM   
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3) Why'd you choose Country Life - Calcium-Magnesium Complex 1000mg/500mg - 90 Tablets:  over all the other cal/mag supplements out there?


1- it is a mixed form of cal and mag meaning different "deliveries"
2-because it was a tablet and I prefer them to gelatin caps etc.
3- cost - you might notice it is actually a 2 for 1 that I linked..so if you buy 1 you get 2!
4 - its a vegetarian tab with little extra garbage in it

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2) Which MultiVitamin do you use?

Didn't I say?  Ficed the thread but its this one...I have also used NOW ADAM but it has Saw Palmetto in it...which is on the "anti-anabolic list"...
Vegan One Multiple Multivitamin

As for the oats..one is rolled one is cut...depends which one you like.

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/10/2006 3:32:54 PM   
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Thanks Dan! Smile

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 1:52:51 PM   
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Which would you choose & why, Opti-Men or NOW-Adam?...

Chart: http://www.geocities.com/newnoiseimage/vitamin.htm

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 1:57:28 PM   
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Toss up...both have Saw Palmetto...which is anti anabolic.  Lower in Opti.

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 2:08:36 PM   
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Toss up...both have Saw Palmetto...which is anti anabolic.  Lower in Opti.

1) If both didn't have saw palmetto which would you choose & why?

2) Why is saw palmetto anti-anabolic? (Since it reduces DHT [dihydrotestosterone], or since it inhibits 5AR [5-alpha-reductase] etc.?)

Thanks for replying in advance! Smile

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 2:54:23 PM   
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Depens on what you need really..I crunch the total nutrient content of my food intake and THEN decide what to supplement with to get it to optimal!

Next step is blood work..to fine tune it.

The bioactive substances in saw palmetto may actually interfere with the function of testosterone by blocking the androgenic and anabolic receptor sites of cells that testosterone needs to bind with to turn on cellular protein synthesis.

Tests using tissue samples revealed that substances in saw palmetto actually reduced the tissue uptake of testosterone and dihydrotestosterone, which means saw palmetto bioactives blocked these anabolic hormones from entering cells, which is very anti-anabolic.

So, while saw palmetto is very useful and effective for people who have BPH, it should be avoided when people who are training to be super-anabolic.

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 4:43:44 PM   
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Depens on what you need really..I crunch the total nutrient content of my food intake and THEN decide what to supplement with to get it to optimal!

Next step is blood work..to fine tune it.

If neither had saw palmetto, based on the total nutrient content of your food intake & based on your blood-work, which would you choose & why (Opti-Men or NOW-ADAM)? (Also accounting in the added stuff, such as: ginseng, ginko biloba, grape seed extract, royal jelly, nettle extract, etc. etc....)
 
Thanks for replying in advance! Smile

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 6:58:01 PM   
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That is more complex than you know...

I would have to put the Opti in my program , run the results...compare...

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 7:15:39 PM   
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1) Which foods are rich in L-Arginine?

2) Why do you take L-Arginine?

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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 7:26:33 PM   
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Another Big question...

L-Arganine is an antioxidant, NO precursor, antioxidant recycler, vasodilator...

Because of the hocus-pocus approach most people here take to using NO precursors, I have to assume that people don't have a clear view of what L-Arganine really does as an antioxidant and NO precursor.

L-Arganine (4-6 grams) works even more powerfully when L-Citrulline (200-1000g), Vit C (500mg), Vit E (200iu), Folic Acid (400 - 800 mcg) and Alpha Lipoic Acid (10mg) per day are taken as well.  Most of this is covered in your multivitamin or antioxidant.

Your diet can positively or adversley effect NO production.

Best times to take L-Arganine are pre bed or pre workout.

For a deeper understanding of its use and history you can read a very simple book by the doctor who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for discovering the importance of Nitric Oxide to the cardiovascular system, Dr Ignarro:
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RE: For Losing Fat - 9/12/2006 9:42:41 PM   
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Another Big question...

L-Arganine is an antioxidant, NO precursor, antioxidant recycler, vasodilator...

Because of the hocus-pocus approach most people here take to using NO precursors, I have to assume that people don't have a clear view of what L-Arganine really does as an antioxidant and NO precursor.

L-Arganine (4-6 grams) works even more powerfully when L-Citrulline (200-1000g), Vit C (500mg), Vit E (200iu), Folic Acid (400 - 800 mcg) and Alpha Lipoic Acid (10mg) per day are taken as well.  Most of this is covered in your multivitamin or antioxidant.

Your diet can positively or adversley effect NO production.

Best times to take L-Arganine are pre bed or pre workout.

For a deeper understanding of its use and history you can read a very simple book by the doctor who won the Nobel Prize in Medicine for discovering the importance of Nitric Oxide to the cardiovascular system, Dr Ignarro:
No More Heart Disease



I've read it's a nitrix oxide precursor along with being a vasodilator and HGH increaser ( http://www.csmngt.com/larginine.htm ), however, hearing that it's an antioxidant too is news!

Thanks!

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