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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 7/9/2007 9:55:51 AM
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twistedlink
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I agree with buffwannabe
As a proper biochem major into a very nice university indeed, i can tell you now that most supps aren't worth the money, itd be cheaper getting most proteins amino acids sugars and such like from diet like buffwannabe said, the only supp worth taking personally is creatine, because foodstuffs don't have it in such large supplies that the supplement does.
As to insulin being released from increase in sugar intake-im not so sure.
After a workout your blood-sugar levels will be low, glucagon will be high converting as much glycogen in the liver into glucose as fast as it possible can, but wont be as fast as direct sugar from blood from recent diet.
Intaking sugar would merely heighten the sugar blood levels to normal or only a bit above normal, this replacement of sugar allows the bodies cells to work more effectively, allowing more ATP to be formed quicker (and creatine helps too  )
Large intake of sugar will release insuin though, how much sugar is in this stuff?
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 8/17/2007 10:42:18 AM
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leo766
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I have never paid over 40$ for any MT product. You all need to stop hating on MT and since you seem to be so educated, use google and find everything you need at half price like a man, instead of wasting time writing these posts.
Right now im on aplodan, anator, and leukic with Cell-tech as well, and I can no short of feel the difference in my work out intensity and strength gain. Last time I had comprable results i just ate loads of creatine and Winny, before i decided that i wasn't willing to sacrifice sex for strength.
seriously if everyone is so F-ing smart, than look it up and stop complaining, it's GNC and vitamin shop that are the ones ripping you off not MT, although MT does help em do that. I can think of at least 10 places off the top of my head that'll sell you MT products at half off retail, online. With free shipping.
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oh and btw... if its overhype why on earth would they make it taste more rancid than a bottle of everclear... i can down liquor easier than anator.(oh and plz dont assume this means im saying that it tastes so bad that it must work... cuz I really don't even want to reply to such stupid comments)
In that case they should of made a fruity patooty drink that makes you giggle and draw little purple harts on ur forearms... Since all they sell is sparkly packages with lies about research they hadn't done...
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 8/21/2007 2:49:07 PM
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EB208
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i've taken it and i liked it, got some good strength gains from it, the taste was really bad though, damn it was gross, i just wish it was cheaper
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 1/25/2008 8:29:26 PM
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grichmond76
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I've been on the anator for about 4 weeks, i've experienced great weight gain...so far about 15 pounds, and its been good wieght. 255 to 275 pounds is about were I'm sitting. I work for GNC so 30% off plus close dates got me the product super cheap. I like it, but the advertising is pretty outrageous.
Increased my bench by 40 pounds during this month, and still witnessing some great speed getting my squats back up.
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 2/17/2008 12:15:02 AM
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lohking
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Ive taken muscle tech products before.One of them is nitro tech.Uselesss.no mass gain.I tried Pro complex from optimum nutrtion.Boom i gained 10 kg of mass =D im now looking for a NO product that is good.No explode is a popular brand thyats y pple will get that 1st.How bout other brands?Any1 heard of Horse power?
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 3/25/2008 12:28:40 PM
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Texan108
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I have been lifting for about 6 years now, and I am 21. When I was a senior in high school, I weight 170, and I was benching 295. I started lifting pretty hard after i graduated, and I started taking anator p70 after lifting, and before i was taking naNO vapor. I am now weighing 195 and benching 360. I love the muscletech products, and I wouldn't go any other way. I got mine for only around $40 though. Buy offline and you can get such a better deal on it. My best friend is taking the same supplements as me, and he went from 155, to 200 now and is just a beast in the weight room. A lot of it has to do with genetics, but as long as you are busting your butt in the weight room and getting enough sleep, then this product will help. It also helps me sleep a lot better at night because it gives me such a energy rush during my workout.
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 3/25/2008 1:42:48 PM
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 3/25/2008 2:09:05 PM
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"You are what you eat"
That's why you're a dick.
ROFL!!
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In reality all of us here are playing out this scenario just different goals, we put our bodies through god awful time spent working out and eating to a near perfect point for years to MAYBE reach a goal.
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 3/25/2008 3:01:08 PM
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"You are what you eat"
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 4/3/2008 8:17:04 PM
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lik00usn
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Buffwannnabe - Either you are just talking out your @ss, or someone paid you to bash this product. No where in your profile does it say that you lift weights as a hobby, and just having general knowledge of chemistry doesn't mean you are a resident expert on this supplement. Every one's body reacts different to everything they put in it... that's why I can eat 6 donuts and not gain a pound. Same concept with any supplement. You might want to have some first hand experience with something before you try to tell the world you are a rocket scientist... Critical thinking skills? Sorry, but not everyone has the abilitiy to go to a biochemist lab and get blood work done just to find out what supplement works for them. And I think the only diarrhea you have is that of the mouth. And now, after seeing someone actually use it, you want to find a cheaper off brand... wow man, you pay for a name and a quality product. Why chance it with someone less legit? Haha, this whole post needs to go right up your @ss, just because of how hypocritical you are. Stop being a poser... and now you want to buy a half used product? Guess you should have not taken that bio-chem class and used the money to buy some A-P70. And now you are using the product, but not following the directions... think you might want to look into those "critical thinking skills" you were talking about. Looking through the rest of your posts, it looks like you can't tell your @ss from your face, and I can't stop laughing at how much "diarrhea" is comming out of your mouth. Thanks for the laugh buddy...
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RE: ANATOR P70 IS OVERHYPE - 4/5/2008 8:58:52 AM
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Buffwannabe
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u know likuson, i did buy that product, and the taste was absolutley unbearable. That product gave me absolute diarrhea. Did it give me gains? I cannot tell because I took it for a very short amount of time. Will it give others gains? Ofcourse it will, if you use it right and are consistent,..
Now the whole premise of this product is that if you supplement yourself with simple sugars (dextrose/glucose) pre-digested whey protien (whey HYDROSOLATE), and high concentrations of Leucine-glutamine, BEFORE AND AFTER YOUR WORKOUTS RIGHT AWAY,..your muscle recovery will be much faster, and you will gain muscle faster.
That is fine, but you really dont need to spend $60-$100 for this product.
The product doesnt even contain 100% whey hydrosolate, it contains partial hydrosolate whey protien, which is a downer in my opinion.
So what are the alternatives?
Power Crunch Bars contains 100% whey hydrosolate protien.(very high in glutamine peptides as well) You could eat that before and after. 1 box at vitamin shoppe costs me around $17.
For simple sugars, you can drink orange juice, apple juice or whatever juice or sugary drink you want as long as long as you are consuming atleast 40 grams of sugar. Plus it has vitamin C.
For leucine, just buy leukic tablets or the cheaper leukix tablets, or you can just buy plain generic L-Leucine tablets which is probably the cheapest and just as equipotent as leukic/leukix
For glutamine, glutamine powder is fairly cheap and it dissolves very quickly in anything, so you could put it in your orange juice and you wont notice a difference in taste (keep in mind anator does NOT contain EXTRA glutamine)
Anator also contains creatine, but you are consuming extra creatine anyways, whether it is from cell tech or whatever creatine you use. I personally prefer kre-alkalyn because you only have to consume a max of 4 caps a day. 2 caps in the morning and 2 caps after you work out. Its not that hard, and it only costs $20. So this whole extra creatine in anator is not necessary at all.
Alternative 2 is to purchase:
Proto-Whey powder. Made from the same company as power crunch bars, and it contains 100% whey HYDROSOLATE. Buy whatever flavor you want, and it only costs around $14-$20
I prefer capuccino and vanilla. So i add 1 scoop of vanilla proto-whey, add 1 banana, vanilla icecream, skim milk, add glutamine powder, and whoala i got the same thing as anator. Minus the leucine and creatine. Remember you are getting the leucine from leucine tablets and creatine from whatever else creatine your using (in my case leukic and kre-alkalyn)
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No where in your profile does it say that you lift weights as a hobby, and just having general knowledge of chemistry doesn't mean you are a resident expert on this supplement.
I do lift, and i will be posting my results on my regimen soon around june time. You dont need your profile to say you lift wieghts as a hobby because the whole point of joining this forum and creating a screename is that you are interested in physical fitness. As far as i am concerned i think i have more credibility then you considering how many times i have replied in this forum compared to your measly ****ty 1 post.
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someone paid you to bash this product
No one has paid me to do such a thing. Im a student drowning in loans, i wish someone would pay me to give my opinions on what i think of supplements. Muscletech is not that bad, I do like Gakic and Leukic, but it only gives me moderate results at best, so it is not necessary to spend $50-$80 dollars on such things. I did try hydroxycut hardcore, and that gave me red colored stools, i literally thought my ass was bleeding, but it was just the discoloration it caused from using that product. I also felt very jittery and it totally supressed my appetite, something opposite of what im trying to do, and that is to consume more calories to gain more muscle. Muscle tech is the king of hype and bullshit.
Consider Aplodan or whatver. You know what it is? Alpha-Lipoic acid and plain creatine. Instead of writing those things in the back of the label, they gave the chemical name, so poor saps like you would fall for it not knowing what it is, and spend $100 on that crap because Jay Cutler used it.
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Critical thinking skills? Sorry, but not everyone has the abilitiy to go to a biochemist lab and get blood work done just to find out what supplement works for them.
You dont need to go to a biochemist to see whether or not its working for you, but you do need to make sure that you have some degree of skepticism and doubt before purchasing the product, which i think is healthy cause it saves you money. Its just that simple dude. Be informed, consider all options and then if you want to buy it then buy it.
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